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Author Topic: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe  (Read 57559 times)

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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #440 on: January 20, 2011, 02:13:53 PM »

Pretty obvious, in hindsight.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #441 on: January 22, 2011, 02:08:02 PM »

yay more Alterniabound.

Albeit a bit less robust than the previous two episodes.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #442 on: January 22, 2011, 03:45:27 PM »

They need to start adding an option to cancel conversations.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #443 on: January 22, 2011, 07:45:28 PM »

Well. Eridan's kind of a dick.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #444 on: January 22, 2011, 07:48:19 PM »

Eridan is already a more satisfying antagonist than Vriska. You know why.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #445 on: January 22, 2011, 08:55:30 PM »

You know, I was going to type a thing, but you're just wrong.

Also, this just goes to show that Eridan is and always was the most useless troll.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #446 on: January 22, 2011, 09:00:27 PM »

Feferi > Tavros
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #447 on: January 22, 2011, 09:04:23 PM »

You know, I was going to type a thing, but you're just wrong.

Also, this just goes to show that Eridan is and always was the most useless troll.
You mean you don't prefer the villain who has a specific goal over the one who does not? You can get more invested in hoping the protagonists stop someone if you know what they're trying to stop.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #448 on: January 22, 2011, 09:15:15 PM »

...his goal is to throw himself on the mercy of a being that won't hesitate to turn him into a pincushion.

Most.  Useless.  Troll.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #449 on: January 22, 2011, 09:32:58 PM »

Well, it's actually a reasonable expectation for him that Jack won't kill him. Jack has his own twisted code of honor.

Sure, it's a cowardly goal. That's fine, because he's a villain now. But it is a goal, which is more than you can say about Vriska, who just seems to impede the protagonists arbitrarily.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #450 on: January 22, 2011, 09:59:19 PM »

Both their goal are dumb.  Vriska is pretty much guaranteed to fail against Noir.  Eridan MIGHT live long enough to see Noir kill the rest of the trolls.  I know if I were Jack, he'd be first on my list as soon as he led me to the others.  Jack may have honor, but you don't waste trust on traitors.

Don't think that I have a problem with recent developments.  I'm pleased to see the story unfold as Hussie sees fit.  All my favorite trolls are likely to survive, anyway.  I'm just saying that Vriska is dillusional, and Eridan is a chump.  Eri's just a more dangerous chump than Tavros.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #451 on: January 22, 2011, 10:02:00 PM »

What "both their goals"? Vriska does not seem to have a concrete goal. She has the abstract goal of causing problems because she thinks they will be productive or something, but what's she specifically after? I mean, did I miss something? Lord knows I am all too eager to skim over pages and pages of pesterlogs full of typing impediments.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #452 on: January 22, 2011, 10:23:26 PM »

Yeah, you did, I guess.  Her goal is to fuck up Bec Noir and take all the glory.  All of it.

She seems like she's been fucking around with everybody because she has, both to better understand using her abilities, and to make sure that Jack becomes the unstoppable horror he now is.  She also has been grooming John as a contingency, should her own abilities prove to not be enough.  Which I guess shows that she's put more thought into her bullshit plan than Eridan has.

So Vriska wants glory, or at least to go out in a blaze of glory.  Eridan wants to turn traitor with the infinitesimal hope of not dying.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #453 on: January 22, 2011, 10:34:12 PM »

Homestuck is heavily based on Earthbound.

And here's Pokey.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #454 on: January 22, 2011, 10:36:30 PM »

The real fun happens when Kanaya realizes that

A) She's pretty much solely responsible for Eridan's sudden leap in power level.
B) Eridan doesn't actually understand that what the fuck he's doing with his newfound technomage skills.
C) She does.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #455 on: January 22, 2011, 10:45:04 PM »

Magic in homestuck reminds me of green lantern rings.  Powerful and versatile, but all Eri knows how to do is make pew-pew lasers while Rose was last seen uprooting an island, then tearing it apart and reshaping it to her whims.

too bad we'll never get to see that curbstomp since rose is gonna die :shrug:
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #456 on: January 22, 2011, 11:47:00 PM »

[spoiler]surprise, the horn pile is feferi's quest bed[/spoiler]
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #457 on: January 22, 2011, 11:51:04 PM »

Her dream self got bisected in the last flash, so that's not gonna work.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #458 on: January 22, 2011, 11:54:14 PM »

So, she's Syndrome. Create a monster only she can beat, and then beat it, and everybody will love her. Minus the revenge motive, and plus crazy.

Okay. That makes sense.

When I consider it in light of how (as this most recent Flash reveals) none of the other trolls knows that she's up to anything or dangerous at all, it makes even more sense. Somehow I assumed that somebody other than the audience was aware of her actions, and they were putting up with her because ???

That doesn't explain how making Jade narcoleptic, getting rid of the other ring, or killing Bro furthers her goals in any way, but I am now able to believe that reasons exist.
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Re: Quickly Retrieve Arms from Safe
« Reply #459 on: January 23, 2011, 12:16:23 AM »

The trolls are all very aware that Vriska's a huge evil bitch in general.

The Flash only reveals that they are not aware that she is specifically being a huge evil bitch at the moment she is specifically being the hugest evil bitch to Tavros.  Bluh bluh.
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