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Author Topic: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)  (Read 12312 times)

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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2010, 07:27:00 PM »

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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2010, 07:44:27 PM »

... so, anyway

yeah, let's go ahead and lynch Esperath, you guys.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2010, 07:57:19 PM »

Time is up. Night is falling, and the player with the most votes will be lynched.

Esperath is led to the gallows.

"Hehe," he says.

"What's so funny?" you ask.

"I'm a Zambie!" he replies.

Night roles. 48 hour timer starts now.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #83 on: August 29, 2010, 07:58:34 PM »

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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2010, 08:05:33 PM »

Oh what.

I forgot there was a time limit here.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #85 on: August 29, 2010, 08:13:51 PM »

Well fuck. I really was totally banking on him being a wolf.

OH WELL
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #86 on: August 31, 2010, 06:15:42 PM »

Zaratustra is shambling along when he is suddenly set upon by the same wolves who turned him into a zombie in the first place!

"Rarrrrrrrgh!" he says, before being torn to shreads.

Zara was the Seer.

Meanwhile, the Zombie Hunter is trying to kill Esperath, who is also shambling along.

Suddenly, Friday, the Game Master, descends.

"It looks like Kazz is out of town," she says, adopting a thinking pose. "His team couldn't get ahold of him, and neither could I, and as this game is timed, that's not good."

The Zombie Hunter raises his eyebrows. Esperath murmurs a bit.

"Well, tell you what," Friday says. "Since Kazz is inactive, but you wanted to kill Esperath's role, we're going to switch your target to Kazz, but also switch Esper's role to him too! Now, whatever role Kazz had is transfered to Esper, along with his Zombielordiness. And whatever role Esper had is now destroyed, along with Kazz."

Everyone shakes their head in confusion, especially Esper, who doesn't know if he's dead or not.

"No, you're fine," Friday explains. "You're now the new Zombie Lord, and you got Kazz's role. Your previous role died along with Kazz. Get it?"

Esper murmurs ascent.

"So anyway, what was Esper then?" asks the Hunter.

Esper was innocent.

Kazz dies and gives his role and Zombie lordness to Esper, because Kazz is inactive for some reason.

All clear? Yes? Good.

The game continues.

10 players total.

9 of them are alive.

Newbie
Envy
Frocto
SCD
DNi
Ziiro
Lottel
Friend
Brentai

There is 1 zombie.

Esper - Lord

Two players are destroyed.

Kazz - Innocent
Zara - Seer

With 10 total players, it takes 6 votes to lynch. You may still no lynch by voting so.

48 hour timer starts now.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #87 on: August 31, 2010, 06:57:54 PM »

Right.  So seer's re-dead and wolves still have a full complement and a devil floating about.  Straight out inno win will be very difficult.

There are five innos, 2 wolves, one alpha, and one devil out there.  Devil probably has contact with wolves by now, and we need six votes to lynch.  This is pretty much it.

Even if the wolves score a perfect victory, two more of you innos will have to die, and the instant you die, you're a zambie for win purposes. If the game drags out any further, almost all of you will be zambies by the end, so you should be playing for zambie victory.

I am a guaranteed not-wolf.  As such, I am soliciting an outright alliance to whack some wolves.  Accepting PMs from any takers, and also from any wolves trying to run interference.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #88 on: August 31, 2010, 08:56:22 PM »

So... um

I'm not going to vote for a while, since that... hasn't exactly worked out in the past for me

um... so hey, did Zara say anything about dudes he scried?
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #89 on: August 31, 2010, 09:00:06 PM »

I imagine he only got off one scry and zombiechat was hilariously broken.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #90 on: August 31, 2010, 10:56:50 PM »

Yeah, we're going to need to work with the Zombies in order to survive. Nine players survive, three of whom count as wolves for wolf victory purposes: three people have to die for the wolves to win. However, three people turning into zombies means the Zombies win, instead, which means that the wolves have to kill a zombie before they let us all die. Therefore the zombie killer must sit on his whip, tonight, if the innocents are to have a chance.

Let's look at a transcript.

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DAY ONE
DN votes Brentai
Frocto votes Ziiro
Zara (seer) votes Frocto
DN votes Zara (seer)
Esper (inno) self-votes
Esper rescinds
Zara (seer) votes Esper (inno)
Esper (inno) votes Zara (seer)
SCD votes Esper (inno)
Newbie votes Kazz (inno)
DN votes Esper (inno)
Lottel vote Esper (inno)
Ziiro votes Esper (inno)
Envy votes Esper (inno)
SCD votes Kazz (inno)
Newbie votes Esper (inno)
Esper votes Kazz (inno)
Newbie rescinds
Newbie votes Kazz (inno)
Brentai votes Kazz (inno)
Frocto votes Kazz (inno)
DN votes Kazz (inno)
Zara (seer) votes Kazz (inno)
KAZZ (INNO) LYNCHED
ZARA (SEER) EATEN

DAY 2
DN votes Esper (inno)
[Undead Kazz votes Esper (inno)]
[Undead Zara (seer) votes Lottel]
Frocto votes Esper (inno)
Newbie votes DN
ESPER (INNO) LYNCHED
UNDEAD ZARA (SEER) EATEN
UNDEAD KAZZ (INNO) WHIPPED

DAY 3

Friend has yet to vote.

DN's awfully quick to lament how difficult the plight of the innocent team is, yet he's the first person to vote every day and, with the possible exception of Brentai, has always voted for an innocent player. I really wanted to vote for him before, and I still want to, but every immediately suspicious person so far has turned out to be innocent, so I'd like to look elsewhere for now.

Frocto got an early throw-away vote on Day 1, hopped on the bandwagon at the last minute on Kazz, followed up Day 2 with the fruitless Esperath lynching, and expressed a desire to kill the only person whose innocence I'm certain of, so Frocto gets my vote.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2010, 01:28:17 AM »

expressed a desire to kill the only person whose innocence I'm certain of

Sorry, who are you talking about?

Anyway, I expressed an interest in voting for you on Day 1 over Kazz, but he wasn't posting AT ALL and was basically being a big useless lump.

while I don't really think we gain much by lynching him, lynching is the main tool in the innocents' arsenal. Esperath

Man, you guys say the darndest things.

Sure, Kazz, why not, although hopefully we can do Newbie next.

Haha, oh man, I forgot you said this. This sort of makes you wanting me dead for DARING TO VOTE pretty silly, but if you can clarify who this dude is you're talking about, that'd be great.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #92 on: September 01, 2010, 09:38:51 AM »

three people turning into zombies means the Zombies win

If I recall the rules correctly, the zombies need to outnumber the combined innocents and wolves to win.

Everyone seems to be grasping for straws at this point, so here's an idea:
rarr Lottel

Let's kill Lottel. Also, before all attention is diverted from jsnlxndrlv's mystery person:

expressed a desire to kill the only person whose innocence I'm certain of

Sorry, who are you talking about?


I'm pretty sure he's talking about himself.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #93 on: September 01, 2010, 10:02:09 AM »

three people turning into zombies means the Zombies win

If I recall the rules correctly, the zombies need to outnumber the combined innocents and wolves to win.

Yeah, you're right. If the wolves only focus on turning innocents into zombies, and the zombie killer does nothing, there will be three wolves, one devil, two innocents, and four zombies: one innocent would need to be lynched in order for the zombies to win. It would actually be better for the innocents to masquerade as wolves, as the wolves at that point will need to focus all their energy on zombie-killing in order to prevent a zombie victory!

Esperath's invitation is a trap. Do not PM him, as working with him now gives him people to target once the wolves have been reduced.

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Everyone seems to be grasping for straws at this point, so here's an idea:
rarr Lottel

Let's kill Lottel. Also, before all attention is diverted from jsnlxndrlv's mystery person:

expressed a desire to kill the only person whose innocence I'm certain of

Sorry, who are you talking about?


I'm pretty sure he's talking about himself.

Yeah, you're right.

As for Lottel: what do you think the odds are that he's the zombie killer?
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #94 on: September 01, 2010, 10:54:34 AM »

As for Lottel: what do you think the odds are that he's the zombie killer?

Just did the math on this, and he's statistically more likely to be a villain. I'll second the Lottel vote.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #95 on: September 01, 2010, 11:14:56 AM »

Esperath's invitation is a trap. Do not PM him, as working with him now gives him people to target once the wolves have been reduced.

Of course it's a trap, but it's a trap in your best interest because you'll probably be on the zambie team by the end of the game, anyway.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #96 on: September 01, 2010, 12:22:22 PM »

three people turning into zombies means the Zombies win

If I recall the rules correctly, the zombies need to outnumber the combined innocents and wolves to win.

Yeah, you're right. If the wolves only focus on turning innocents into zombies, and the zombie killer does nothing, there will be three wolves, one devil, two innocents, and four zombies: one innocent would need to be lynched in order for the zombies to win. It would actually be better for the innocents to masquerade as wolves, as the wolves at that point will need to focus all their energy on zombie-killing in order to prevent a zombie victory!

Esperath's invitation is a trap. Do not PM him, as working with him now gives him people to target once the wolves have been reduced.


Here is my hypothesis on why you are a wolf.
1) You mistakenly believe that the wolves need to outnumber everyone else just like the zombies do. They don't. The wolf win condition is to outnumber or be half of the remaining living population.
2) The wolves nightkilled a zombie. The logical thing for the wolves to do would be to kill an innocent,  because killing an innocent, supposing all other conditions stayed the same for last night, would mean wolf victory.
9 Living players - killing an innocent would make it 8 living players, meaning 4 wolves and 4 innocents.

So why would the wolves kill a zombie when they could have won already?

Because you didn't read the rules carefully enough, Newbie.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #97 on: September 01, 2010, 12:48:04 PM »

Because devil doesn't count as wolf for victory purposes?
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #98 on: September 01, 2010, 12:59:23 PM »

What Newbie said.  Devil wins with the wolves but doesn't count as a wolf for triggering victory conditions.
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Re: Werewolves vs Zombies (PT)
« Reply #99 on: September 01, 2010, 01:29:28 PM »

...Damnit.

Lottel again, I guess.
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