Topic: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections (Read 88518 times)

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #520 on:** January 24, 2012, 09:53:05 AM »

Youtube is having an Ask President Obama thing.

Ziiro · « **Reply #521 on:** January 24, 2012, 09:55:44 AM »

C-SPAN: Full Vice Presidential Debate with Gov. Palin and Sen. Biden

The 2008 VP debate

Pacobird · « **Reply #522 on:** January 24, 2012, 09:56:08 AM »

iama harvard law graduate and former community organizer AMA

Thad · « **Reply #523 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:12:32 AM »

Quote from: P. Birdy on January 24, 2012, 09:52:20 AM

Palin sunk that campaign, man. Obama v. McCain actually would have been pretty close, but then they brought her out at the exact moment when America was at its most tired of Evangelical Christianity.

I don't think evangelical Christianity was the problem; Huckabee would have been a much better choice.

And while I certainly agree that she was a major factor, I don't think McCain would have won either way. It was the Democrats' to lose.

Granted, the Democrats OFTEN lose elections that are theirs to lose.

Shinra · « **Reply #524 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:17:12 AM »

If McCain had run on a moderate platform and openly distanced himself from Bush I think he could have stood a good chance of winning. Instead, he embraced the far right of his base, who would have ended up voting for him anyway.

Brentai · « **Reply #525 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:57:51 AM »

Palin made McCain's performance irrelevant. It didn't matter whether he could win on his own or not once Palin clinched the decision for everybody.

If I was more paranoid I'd say that it was on purpose - having a complete failure as your nominee hurts the entire party, but giving him a convenient excuse softens the blow a bit.

...which makes you wonder how they're going to bury the nominee THIS time.

Ziiro · « **Reply #526 on:** January 24, 2012, 11:04:14 AM »

Romney/Perry 2012

Caithness · « **Reply #527 on:** January 24, 2012, 11:57:05 AM »

Quote from: Brentai on January 24, 2012, 09:22:04 AM

I make a tenth* of what Mitt Romney does and my tax rate is more than double what his is.

* Probably more like a fifth.

Wow, you make $2 million* a year? You really ARE in the 1%.

* Probably more like $4 million

Mongrel · « **Reply #528 on:** January 24, 2012, 12:01:15 PM »

Romney/Brentai 2012

Classic · « **Reply #529 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:22:57 PM »

That ticket would tempt me to be very civically irresponsible.

A² · « **Reply #530 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:30:52 PM »

Brentai/Thad 2012

Classic · « **Reply #531 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:31:48 PM »

I didn't say I'd throw my vote away!

Brentai · « **Reply #532 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:51:43 PM »

Thad's probably amused as hell to be the Veep again.

Here's the argument against Romney as I see it, and as far as I'm concerned it's a silver goddam bullet.

He's right that he hasn't broken any laws.
He's right that he's done nothing wrong by taken advantage of the way those laws are written.
He's even right in saying that anybody who doesn't take advantage of said laws is probably too dense to run a large economic system properly.
This is his standard as a private businessman.

...and he's given absolutely no indication that his standard as a public servant is any different.

Which is to say, Mitt Romney believes, unironically, that a President who doesn't use his vast legal powers to benefit himself... isn't fit to be President.

Thad · « **Reply #533 on:** January 24, 2012, 02:22:25 PM »

Indiana governor urged to run for president

Man, Bill Kristol sure does hate Mitt Romney.

Pacobird · « **Reply #534 on:** January 24, 2012, 04:46:23 PM »

I like that Republicans are now doing what Democrats do.

DestyNova · « **Reply #535 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:47:59 PM »

https://twitter.com/#!/Clarknt67/status/160939642718396416/photo/1
If this is true, it means MONTHS of material for comedians everywhere.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #536 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:59:25 PM »

... it really does appear to be an actual thing, yes.

So... Santorum and C.U.M.

Brentai · « **Reply #537 on:** January 24, 2012, 07:24:39 PM »

That name has "trying to fill acronym" written all over it, so there's got to be a good explanation somewhere.

I tried going to that site and got a certificate error, so I guess it's gonna have to remain a mystery, because I'm not adding an exception for a possibly hacked site with a certificate error.

Shinra · « **Reply #538 on:** January 25, 2012, 05:05:42 AM »

It's possible Santorum is now playing up the joke because any attention is good attention at this point.

Mongrel · « **Reply #539 on:** January 25, 2012, 08:46:13 AM »

Quote from: Daniel Greenfield

Romney is not stupid, but neither is he insightful. If Santorum and Gingrich see massive culture wars in which they want to play a commanding role, Romney believes that most ideological arguments would go away with sane reasonable management at the top. And he would like to provide that management. If his opponents are mocked as running for Cromwell or Napoleon, he sees himself as going through a headhunting process to become the CEO of America.

If America's problems were only those of mismanagement, then Mitt might be the guy. But the mismanagement is ideological and the massive national debt is the result of too many compromises and backroom deals between the ideologically corrupt and the just plain corrupt. Anyone who recognizes that feels an instinctive antipathy to those politicians who just don't get it. And they see Romney not as the King of Bain, but as the king of those who don't get it.

Romney doesn't understand why he is hated, either by his opponents or by many of the voters. Like most reasonable but clueless people, he knows that he is the adult in the room because he is the one speaking calmly, dressing professionally and following the right procedures to move forward. He has done everything he was supposed to and appears alternately frustrated and bemused to see the primaries slipping away from him.

The problem is that Romney doesn't understand. He doesn't understand why you don't try to clumsily empathize with things you can't relate to, or why his association with the establishment has made his already toxic image even more toxic. His air of competence belies a supreme cluelessness to the currents around him.

Romney is an excellent salesman, but people have an instinctive dislike of salesman, of a slickness that is too slick, a patter that is too good and a willingness to say anything that will make the sale. In art it is often the blotch, the mar and the smear that lends a piece its depth and authenticity. Perfect pieces are a dime a dozen, it's the imperfections that make it seem real.

Greenfield is a blithering right-wing hack blogger, but I did think this bit of comment was pretty good!

Also, a friend had this reply:

Quote from: boyo

to be fair though, none of the candidates understand why they are hated

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