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[Classic]

"The base" seems to take this kind of speaking acumen as a plus though.

[Brentai]

As tired as I am of the phrase "War on ${fetish}", I would REALLY like to see someone call these assholes out on their open War on Education.  I'm in a position where I literally CANNOT be recognized for my hard work due to the fact that I happen to not currently possess a degree (because I couldn't afford one), so I just want to fucking snap whenever one of these slimeballs start taking the line of "Hey, college grads, amirite?  Total elitist douchebags.  Let's not be like them!"  That's just great.  Peer pressuring your own loyal followers into wallowing in the lower classes forever.  Just... fucking... look in the mirror, know that you are hurting everybody that loves you, and realize that you belong in a very special place in Hell.

I never want to feel this strongly about anything in politics, ever, but it's almost impossible to keep your objectivism when you're actually physically struggling not to throw up.  And when you know that if they knew that you have that kind of reaction, they'd only just keep pressing harder, because the goal of this game is to hurt the Americans you don't like as much as possible.

[Thad]

Oh,

Second round: The GOP's "war on caterpillars".

Now this is clearly making a mountain out of a speck of dust, and I'm not afraid to say it.  The insane leftists who are pitching a fit about this are making actual, extremely important violations of womens' rights that much easier to dismiss on the grounds of "fuck, you guys ALWAYS complain about pointless bullshit."

See, here's what I read about it, on the Washington Post:

    PRIEBUS: Well, for one thing, if the Democrats said we had a war on caterpillars, and mainstream media outlet talked about the fact that Republicans have a war on caterpillars, then we have problems with caterpillars. The fact of the matter is it’s a fiction and this started a war against the Vatican that this president pursued. He still hasn’t answered Archbishop Dolan’s issues with Obama world and Obamacare, so I think that’s the first issue.

Democrats immediately jumped on Priebus’s comments, accusing him of comparing women to caterpillars.

“Reince Priebus’ comparison of Republican attempts to limit women’s access to mammograms, cervical cancer screenings, and contraception to a ‘war on caterpillars’ shows how little regard leading Republicans, including Mitt Romney, have for women’s health,” said Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter.

Except that she doesn't seem to be saying the thing the writer is accusing her of saying.

She's NOT actually accusing him of comparing women to caterpillars.

She's accusing him of belittling a serious problem.

Which is exactly the fucking thing he was in fact doing.

Now, it could be that, somewhere outside of the quoted context, she said something much stupider.  And it's almost a certainty that some liberal blogger somewhere has said something stupider.  But I don't see a damn thing wrong with the actual quoted comment.

The GOP is mounting a serious campaign against women's rights and Priebus dismissed it as made-up nonsense.  That's what Cutter was calling him out on -- not in comparing women to caterpillars, but in comparing something serious to something stupid.


EDIT TO ADD: Yeah, here's a bit more in the way of shenanigans:

Other examples of this push by Democrats: White House press secretary Jay Carney said today that President Obama wants women to be allowed into Augusta National Golf Club, site of this weekend’s “The Masters” golf tournament.

Yeah, okay.  'Cept that what neither that article nor the link mentions is that somebody ASKED Carney that question.

I mean, okay, if you think the reporter asking the question was a plant, just fucking say so -- it's not like that sort of thing is unprecedented.

But the Post doesn't say that -- it doesn't even MENTION that this was a response to a question (and indeed the only fucking sane response to that question), it implies through omission that it was a planned announcement.

And tomorrow, the White House will hold an event on women and the economy.

Well, that may be fortuitously timed, but funny fucking story, Aaron: they did the same fucking thing this time last year.

[Brentai]

Okay, well, I claim not-paying-attention-at-work again, then.

My absolute favorite responses have been along the lines of "Um... but the GOP War on Caterpillars (and practically every other form of wildlife) isn't really all that fictional though."

ADDENDUM: Jesus, that http://rachelwaswrong.org/ site.

As the world commemorates the 100th birthday (May 27, 2007) of the late Rachel Carson, it is time to acknowledge the unintended, adverse effects of Carson’s legacy and find ways to correct them.

That's really fucking reaching for a way to somehow manage to be utterly tactless about the whole issue.  PETA would be proud.

[Thad]

No worries; I'm certain that the Democrats ARE ratcheting up the pandering for maximum political gain.  I just think the three examples in that article are highly suspect.

(And again, it's entirely possible that, in context, Cutter WAS saying what he's accusing her of saying -- but those other two examples tend to make me doubt it.  I'm pretty sure the guy's chosen deliberately misleading examples -- though I could go Hanlon's Razor and decide he just didn't bother to dig any deeper than the first page of the blog he linked.)

Anyhow, yeah, I'm beginning to quite appreciate the Atlantic.

[Kayma]

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/10/politics/campaign-wrap/index.html

Santorum to suspend his campaign. Didn't even wait for Pennsylvania...

[Thad]

You know, for all that's absolutely reprehensible about the man, I think he probably bowed out because his little girl is sick, not because he was about to lose his home state.

That he cares more about his personal morality than actually winning any elections has always been the most praiseworthy thing about the guy.  Granted, "it's a good idea to be with your children when they're sick" is about as far as my common ground with him goes, but...just this once, good for him.

[Shinra]

And sadly, the dream dies. :( Maybe Santorum will end up as the VP. Then we'll at least get ornery old Joey-B vs Santorum in the debates. That'd be great.

[Mongrel]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?_r=2

[Thad]

I don't see Santorum getting the veep nod -- he's not as dumb or as mean as Palin, but he's just as polarizing.

Statistically, if Romney loses then Santorum will have an advantage in the '16 primaries -- but trends be damned, he won't be the nominee then, either.

[James Edward Smith]

Who do you think Mitt will get as his running mate then? I would think Newt since he's got name recognition and has managed to give off the impression of not being retarded to swing voters. When I do my thing where I pick a candidate based on how his media presence has made him FEEL instead of actually using my brain, he's the guy I pick. This has done served me well in predicting most elections and picks I've cared about other than complete left fielders (hmm, should we make right fielder a term?) like Palin.

[Mongrel]

I was wondering if Huntsman might actually get the nod.

I think it depends on if he wants to use the veep slot to pander to the base, or shore up his credentials as a "moderate".

[Brentai]

The very last thing Mitt wants to do is make another Mormon his running mate.  His religion already creeps out the base that he's absolutely reliant on; any hint of a Mormon Conspiracy will set them screaming.

He'll probably go in the opposite direction and find someone who appeals to unconvinced fundies; that isn't Newt and it really isn't Santorum either (you're still setting up a dual non-Protestant ticket there).  My guess is that he'll pull whoever he can from the Tea Party who's least likely to mouth off at the wrong time.

[Thad]

I'm mostly with Brent, though I think it's important to pick a running-mate who appeals to the base WITHOUT freaking the center the hell out -- no more Palins, and no the Catholic thing is not the reason not to pick Santorum.  (Evangelicals love Santorum and are more than willing to overlook his being Catholic.)

Again, Huckabee would have been ideal but I think that ship's sailed.  Odds are pretty good it'll be someone who we haven't heard of, like Palin, except much less of a lightning rod than she was.

[Classic]

... Mormons... are protestants?
Isn't the definition of protestant Christian group outside of the Eurasian Catholic and Orthodox churches?

[Caithness]

Mormons belong to a third category of Christian sects called Restorationist.

Catholic/Orthodox sects trace their Priesthood authority back to Peter, the first Pope.
Restorationist sects trace their Priesthood authority to some more recent restoration event.
Protestant sects don't make any claims about having Priesthood authority.

[TA]

... Mormons... are protestants?
Isn't the definition of protestant Christian group outside of the Eurasian Catholic and Orthodox churches?

According to most Protestant dogma, Mormons aren't just not Protestant, they're not even Christian.

[Thad]

I don't know about "most Protestant dogma", but certainly among a nontrivial segment of the evangelical population, particularly in the Deep South.

In my observation, non-evangelical Protestants, as well as evangelicals in the western US, don't have much of an objection to Mormons, and even if they think their beliefs are a little odd they don't (generally) insult them by saying they're not really Christian.

[Doom]

"Newt Gingrich, in his speech to the National Rifle Association, said he hopes the NRA won’t be offended, but the group has been “too timid.”

“A Gingrich presidency will submit to the United Nations a treaty that extends the right to bear arms as a human right for every person on the planet,” Gingrich said."

Sorry guys but I am now this board's token conservative because I am joining the CosmoNewts.

[Mongrel]

Wait... but Brentai is already our token conservative.

Gentlemen, this can only mean one thing:

A SPACE RACE