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Author Topic: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections  (Read 88619 times)

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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #120 on: August 10, 2011, 11:28:45 PM »

He's smarter than a lot of people give him credit for. I saw that clip a few days ago and I gained immense respect for him.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #121 on: August 10, 2011, 11:30:50 PM »

The idea sounds stupid as hell but at this point I'm willing to take a chance on a leftist actor being the one to finally balance out the mess a rightist actor put us in.

Also, the term "Damonomics" sounds hella badass.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #122 on: August 11, 2011, 09:48:19 AM »

Speaking of politicians saying the stupidest possible thing at the worst possible time, I hope Romney's "corporations are people" comment gets echoed throughout the entire campaign.  Not so much to discredit Romney but to hammer home the idea that this is a bad, bad, terrible thing to think.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2011, 07:55:19 PM »

Speaking of politicians saying the stupidest possible thing at the worst possible time, Obama's new message is that the political system of this country is broken.

Barack.

You are

The President

Of this political system.

Fostering a "throw the bums out" mentality doesn't do you any good when you're King of the Bums, you Skeletoresque simpleton.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2011, 09:24:56 PM »

Fostering a "throw the bums out" mentality doesn't do you any good when you're King of the Bums, you Skeletoresque simpleton.

Appropriate?

Also, for those who have not yet heard, Rick Perry is almost certainly running now.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #125 on: August 12, 2011, 07:03:38 AM »

Blaming Congress is about the only thing he CAN do, though.  Blaming "the system" is an attempt to claim none of this is his fault.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #126 on: August 12, 2011, 08:46:38 AM »

"The last option open to me, the President of the United States, is to try and pass the buck" isn't exactly the right message to send, either.

At this point I'm basically ambivalent to the idea of a not-too-odious Republican kicking him out.  Congressional Dems might fare a damn sight better if they get to show solidarity against a common foe instead of having to show solidarity by marching lockstep with a man who starts buckling before the fight has even begun.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #127 on: August 12, 2011, 09:36:40 AM »

"The last option open to me, the President of the United States, is to try and pass the buck" isn't exactly the right message to send, either.

Hell no it isn't.  But it's the only one he's left for himself through two and a half years of letting the opposition walk all over him.

At this point I'm basically ambivalent to the idea of a not-too-odious Republican kicking him out.

I'm getting there.

Congressional Dems might fare a damn sight better if they get to show solidarity against a common foe instead of having to show solidarity by marching lockstep with a man who starts buckling before the fight has even begun.

Yeah, worked out really well 2001-2008.

The Congressional Dems, as a body, are as useless as Obama.  The only thing we'd potentially gain with a Romney Presidency would be a handful of Republicans willing to vote for, say, a modest healthcare package or tax increase.  And even THAT'S no guarantee, and assumes Romney would actually be sensible enough to propose either of those things at this point.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #128 on: August 12, 2011, 11:23:34 AM »

The idea sounds stupid as hell but at this point I'm willing to take a chance on a leftist actor being the one to finally balance out the mess a rightist actor put us in.

Also, the term "Damonomics" sounds hella badass.

I like the idea of making a major Democrat politician out of an actor whose breakout characters were defined by superhuman gifts they'd done nothing to earn.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #129 on: August 12, 2011, 11:28:31 AM »

Actually it seemed to work okay 2006-2008.  I'm working on the assumption that congressional power shifts left at the same time executive power drops right, which isn't all that big of a stretch.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #130 on: August 12, 2011, 01:12:43 PM »

Actually it seemed to work okay 2006-2008.

...you mean when the banks caused an economic collapse and Congress responded by bailing them out with taxpayer money, without imposing any form of conditions on accepting it?  Or how about that whole retroactive immunity for telecoms engaging in warrantless domestic surveillance thing?

At least they passed SCHIP and federal funding for stem cell research.  Pity they were vetoed.  Other'n that, there was...the minimum wage?  So they did that.  And granted, that's not trivial, particularly in the face of fiscal armageddon.

I'm working on the assumption that congressional power shifts left at the same time executive power drops right, which isn't all that big of a stretch.

But the Dems did fuck-all when Bush was polling over 40%.  His negligence had to lead to the destruction of a SECOND major population center before they even started stonewalling him effectively.

And even then, see above.

Honest to Christ, as frustrating as the past two years have been, the Dems have accomplished more than they did at any point during the Bush Administration.  Compromised as the healthcare bill is, it's SOMETHING; plus there's the end of DADT and all the other stuff they pulled off last December (though, granted, that happened after they caved on the tax cuts, a situation where they literally had to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to win).
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #131 on: August 14, 2011, 09:11:59 AM »

So, the Ames Straw Poll went down the other dayThe winner: Michelle Bachmann, with Ron Paul taking a very close second and Tim Pawlenty in a distant third.  Mitt Romney took dead last.  In response to that defeat, Tim Pawlenty is withdrawing his candidacy.

I think we're seeing a Bachmann candidacy.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #132 on: August 14, 2011, 12:03:26 PM »

...that last bit is sarcasm, right?

I mean, I can see her taking Iowa.  But so did Huckabee.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #133 on: August 14, 2011, 01:30:19 PM »

I still can't really see any of them posing much of a threat to Obama.  But the dems have worked anti-miracles before, so if anyone can fuck this up it's them.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #134 on: August 14, 2011, 02:57:44 PM »

I said earlier that I thought Romney/Huckabee was the only ticket that really had a chance against him.  Assuming Huckabee's not willing to take the VP nom, I'll amend that to Romney/Perry.  And Perry comes with major baggage: he doesn't just share Bush's political views, he also looks and sounds like him.  He wouldn't cause the backlash that Palin did or Bachmann would, but he's still a tough damn sell who we're only talking about at all because all the rest are even worse.

I don't see Romney posing a real threat because he's too reasonable for the base, and I don't see any of the rest of them posing a threat because they're not reasonable enough for the middle.  But Obama's lost a hell of a lot of enthusiasm from his supporters, too.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #135 on: August 14, 2011, 08:08:36 PM »

Obama may have lost his Magic Negro aura, but the pool of candidates available to the Republicans ranges from the potentially insane to the completely fucking delusional, and not one of them can keep it a secret that they're batshit crazy, with half of them wearing it proudly on their sleeves like a fucking schizophrenic who's gone off his meds and is parading around in a tin foil tricorn hat as if it is the most normal thing in the world. If Ron Paul one day interrupted some pundit and demanded to be addressed as Commodore, I would not be shocked.

I think Obama is going to be getting his second term based entirely on a TKO.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #136 on: August 14, 2011, 08:11:41 PM »

I pretty much agree with that assessment.

Of course we do live in BIZZARRO WORLD now, so you never know.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #137 on: August 14, 2011, 08:51:20 PM »

Yeah I'm not 100% sure that the worst goatfucker in the world can't beat Obama right now.  Remember that 90% of voters are also goatfuckers.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2011, 08:52:58 PM »

Romney seems less crazy than the rest.

The trouble is that in the primaries, that may actually be a liability.
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Re: 2012: The Mayans Warned Us Of Stupid Elections
« Reply #139 on: August 14, 2011, 09:51:34 PM »

I'm curious to see if that "corporations are people too" comment is going to become his version of, fuck, who was it who yelled "Yeah!" in a totally cooky way, and it completely topedo'd his chances after it got played over and over again? I get the feeling that a lot of people on both sides are going to get sick of seeing that clip of him saying that, and his stupid fucking face as a result.
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