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[Thad]

Why in fuck's name would Mitt try to reach out to the birthers? Besides these people being the craziest element of the republican party, they're already going to be lining up around the block to try to vote out the manchurian muslim negro. It's not like he needs to drum up support with these fucking people.

Probably it was just another ill-conceived, awkward joke.

The GOP could stop pretending like the farthest element of the right isn't already a given since there's a hated liberal incumbent who also happens to be black. It's the left that needs to worry about people coming out to the polls, not the right.

...Shinra, a few months ago you were saying Gingrich was certain to clinch the nomination because Romney was so unpopular with the base.  This is another one of those times when you're stating your current finger-in-the-wind prediction as an indisputable fact.

You're right that the election IS going to depend on turnout, and I think you're also right that Romney should be more worried about swing voters than the Republican base.  But to say that he doesn't have to worry about the base turning out at ALL?

Well, okay, let's look at it like this: in '08, Republican turnout was down by 1.3 points and Democratic turnout was up by 2.6.  (Via CNN, citing American University's Center for the Study of the American Electorate.)  Now, anything that looks at nationwide polling is a gross oversimplification of how presidential elections actually work, but the point is, even a very small change in turnout can swing an election.

Factors to consider:
Romney is probably an even more unpalatable candidate to the Republican base than McCain was in '08.
But the base hates Obama more now than in '08.
And Obama's base is a lot less keen on him now than in '08, too.

Those are all factors that could affect turnout.

Romney needs the far right.  Probably more than Obama needs liberals -- which, at least, is what Obama's been betting on as he's repeatedly thumbed his nose at them.

And a stiff, unreliable Mormon former governor of Massachusetts who is also the architect of the hated healthcare plan is not guaranteed the votes of the right, no matter how much they hate the incumbent -- any more than Kerry had the presidency sewn up based on the number of people who opposed the war in Iraq.

[Mongrel]

Looks like some PR guy on the Romney campaign got a brilliant idea: Romney is now saying that he won't release his tax returns because he doesn't want to reveal how much he tithes to the Mormon Church

[Joke about how 'Tithe' literally means 'A tenth part']

[TA]

Who knows, maybe he actually tithes diligently.

As in, 10% of his actual income.  Which is dramatically different from his reported income.

[Brentai]

He tithes 25% of his income to the Mormon Church, and writes it off as a charitable donation.  The Mormon Church then donates to his various campaigns in greater amounts.

This is not a new or a well-kept secret.

[Caithness]

You're not supposed to tithe more than 10% of your income. It's exactly ten percent, no more and no less. Ten percent of WHAT exactly (net vs. gross, or what you count as income at all) is kind of left up to the individual to decide, though.

If you want to donate more money to the church, you do it through fast offerings or donations to other specific funds. Missionary fund, Book of Mormon printing fund, humanitarian aid fund, etc.

[Mongrel]

By the by, you all saw that Charlie Crist has endorsed Obama, right?

THEY SEE HIM TROLLIN' THEY HATIN'

Well, actually he's just thrown his hat in the "Man, the GOP is just getting too crazy." ring. Geez if we can keep this up, something... good might actually come of all this. Maybe?

[Brentai]

The best I can ever hope for is a return to the base level of lunacy from when Newt Gingrich was running the thing.

[Büge]

The best way for women to contribute to the Republican National Convention is to look pretty, so they've set up a salon to get makeup done.

 

[Mongrel]

Rush Limbaugh suggests Obama is responsible for Hurricane Isaac

As Starr said "Well if that's true, you bet I'm voting for the guy who can CONTROL THE FUCKING WEATHER!"

[Smiler]

Holy shit and I was just joking that he would do this.

[Thad]

I love it.

You know that if it were the Democratic convention, it would be God's doing.

[NexAdruin]

It sounds more like he's complaining about media coverage bias than Obama controlling the weather.

He thinks Obama is trying to scare up hype about the hurricane to distract from Biden's mouth and make it look like God hates Republicans, not that Obama is using negro magic to bring in a tropical storm.

[Büge]

God hates Republicans

It's true!

[TA]

Coal Miners forced to lose a day's pay to instead pose in a photo op with Mitt Romney, and donate to his campaign, or be fired.

[Friday]

Murray Energy Chief Financial Officer Rob Moore told Blomquist that the charges were untrue.

“There were no workers that were forced to attend the event,” Moore said. “We had managers that communicated to our work force that the attendance at the Romney event was mandatory, but no one was forced to attend the event.

 

I mean, if they had been forced, their bodies simply wouldn't have allowed them to attend the event.

[Shinra]

In the case of legitimate wage theft, the paycheck has ways to shut that whole thing down.

[Thad]

Murray Energy Chief Financial Officer Rob Moore told Blomquist that the charges were untrue.

“There were no workers that were forced to attend the event,” Moore said. “We had managers that communicated to our work force that the attendance at the Romney event was mandatory, but no one was forced to attend the event.

 

I mean, if they had been forced, their bodies simply wouldn't have allowed them to attend the event.

What was the bit from Daria?

Mom: My daughter was told that this project was voluntary.
Principal: It was.  But she chose not to volunteer, so in her case we made it mandatory.


(ALTERNATELY: That time someone in the audience at a Condi Rice speech got up and started yelling and then got hauled off by security and Condi brushed it off with "Isn't it nice that we live in a country with freedom of speech?"  Seeing as how, you know, if you define "freedom of speech" as "freedom to say whatever you want so long as you don't mind getting forcibly hauled away by armed guards", then FUCKING EVERYWHERE has freedom of speech.)

[Shinra]

Mitt Romney's miraculous salvation of Bain and Company was partially a government bailout, and the FDIC got screwed.

[Thad]

Romney's initial rescue attempt at Bain & Company was actually a disaster – leaving the firm so financially strapped that it had "no value as a going concern." Even worse, the federal bailout ultimately engineered by Romney screwed the FDIC – the bank insurance system backed by taxpayers – out of at least $10 million. And in an added insult, Romney rewarded top executives at Bain with hefty bonuses at the very moment that he was demanding his handout from the feds.

[...]

In March 1992, according to the FDIC documents, Romney approached the banks and played the bonus card. Allow Bain to pay off its debt at a deep discount, he demanded – just 35 cents on the dollar. Otherwise, the "majority" of the firm's "excess cash" would "be available for the bonus pool to its officers at a vice president level and above."

The next month, when the banks balked at the deal, Romney decided to prove he wasn't bluffing. "As the bank group did not accept the proposal from Bain," the records show, "Bain's senior management has decided to go forth with the distribution of bonuses." (Bain's lawyers redacted the amount of the executive payouts, and the Romney campaign refused to comment on whether Romney himself received a bonus.)

Oh man, that is GOLD.

So do you figure that'll be in campaign ads before the week is out, or will they take a break from bashing Romney to focus on positive campaigning next week?

[Brentai]

Oh no they definitely won't take the chance to destroy the lynchpin of the opposition's entire campaign.  That would be too mean.