Topic: News from the North (Read 64144 times)

François · « **Reply #640 on:** April 02, 2012, 01:48:16 PM »

Yeah, this is about separatism, not about the man's list of glorious deeds from kicking a harmless comic in the nuts to suspending the civil rights of an entire province and throwing who knows how many artists and intellectuals and other random innocents in jail on account of ten god damned morons.

I think JFK deserves a lot better than this comparison.

Mongrel · « **Reply #641 on:** April 02, 2012, 02:01:57 PM »

Oh there's any number of excellent reasons to hate Trudeau if you want to. But when I look at the other offerings he looks pretty damn good. Take our current Prime Minister (please!).

Quote from: François on April 02, 2012, 01:48:16 PM

I think JFK deserves a lot better than this comparison.

I dunno, I think JFK just had better advertising.

François · « **Reply #642 on:** April 02, 2012, 02:58:54 PM »

He got a couple things right, and in some regards the country is a better place for his having run it. But calling him merely a douche is still far more kindness than he deserves.

Mongrel · « **Reply #643 on:** April 12, 2012, 04:24:11 PM »

News Item: Language tests to be done for immigrants applying as low skilled workers.

Büge · « **Reply #644 on:** April 18, 2012, 06:06:33 AM »

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/sun-news-network-turns-old-continues-spark-controversy-080008845.html

Oh yeah. I forgot we had a Fox News up here.

Mongrel · « **Reply #645 on:** April 23, 2012, 08:29:06 PM »

Well, well, well, looks like a critical mass of non-lunatic Albertans came out of the woodwork. How about that?

Büge · « **Reply #646 on:** April 24, 2012, 08:19:31 AM »

They still voted Conservative.

Mongrel · « **Reply #647 on:** April 24, 2012, 08:51:27 AM »

The Alberta PCs are basically a liberal party now in that they are really just centrist. They even want to raise taxes and spending this go-around.

Harper's buddies were actually supporting the Wildrose party and not the PCs. In fact that crew derides the Alberta PCs as "Clarkies" (as in Joe Clark).

I'm not saying the Alberta PCs aren't Conservatives, but they're at least Conservatives I could vote for.

Mongrel · « **Reply #648 on:** April 27, 2012, 10:35:05 AM »

If the government itself triggers Godwin's Law, does that mean we get to ask for an immediate election?

François · « **Reply #649 on:** April 27, 2012, 11:33:31 AM »

man can the student riots in montréal just trigger somehow immediate secession or something already

the words "québec spring" are silly but anything to get us away from the country that voted for this party

Mongrel · « **Reply #650 on:** April 27, 2012, 02:46:25 PM »

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

Mongrel · « **Reply #651 on:** May 04, 2012, 04:43:41 PM »

Thad · « **Reply #652 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:36:11 AM »

Canada's warrantless surveillance bill is, improbably, dead

Quote from: Doctorow

Remember Canada's Bill C-30, the sweeping surveillance bill proposed by Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, who declared that if you opposed unlimited, unaccountable, secret warrantless snooping on networked communications by the police and by appointed civilians, you "stand with the child pornographers?" The bill that was a sure thing to pass, given the Conservative majority in Parliament and its total commitment to the bill?

It's dead.

Mongrel · « **Reply #653 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:00:32 AM »

It died because there was no real segment of society in favour of it. Even the Conservative base hated it.

Which goes to show that our Libertarian/Conservative yahoos may be yahoos, but are at least capable of understanding a basic sentence like "This would allow the government to spy on everything you do on the internet if they want".

Büge · « **Reply #654 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:02:29 AM »

It will surely be back.

Mongrel · « **Reply #655 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:05:37 AM »

Well that depends.

What we don't know is if this was a Vic Toews Pet Project that Harper simply got behind, in which case it really is dead, or if Harper was actually a driving force behind it, which may mean it could be reintroduced in a different form in future.

In the latter case, it may still be dead, because while Harper has overreached in the past, he's been pretty adept at cannily pulling back when he knows the idea would kill him with the electorate. Pushing his Conservative agenda may be his dearest dream, but his own survival has always taken precedence.

Büge · « **Reply #656 on:** May 17, 2012, 02:15:20 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on May 17, 2012, 11:05:37 AM

Pushing his Conservative agenda may be his dearest dream, but his own survival has always taken precedence.

Can this be exploited?

Mongrel · « **Reply #657 on:** May 17, 2012, 02:36:42 PM »

Only if the electorate can be persuaded to dislike the Conservatives.

The main problem there is that their biggest threat so far has been self-defeat.

Mongrel · « **Reply #658 on:** May 24, 2012, 05:12:43 PM »

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Canada has had three major riots in two years, almost daily riots since February and the United Nations has two different investigations monitoring Canada's treatment of its poor, aboriginals, and blacks. Your manufacturing sector is a basket case, none of your universities rank in the world's top 20, your largest technology company is on the verge of collapse and you are unable to protect yourselves, relying on the U.S. to do it.

You've convinced yourselves you're the most virtuous people on earth but you're no prize. Everything you are you owe to things you find in the ground or growing on it and the fact that you are a short walk from the largest economy in the world.

From a rather salty American commentator. Sorry, don't have the source.

I can think of contradictions and reasonable counterpoints, but you gotta admit... Things are kind of going the way this sentiment says, aren't they?

Brentai · « **Reply #659 on:** May 24, 2012, 05:55:08 PM »

Oh hey I walked into this thread accidentally.

It's amusing that that comment can just as easily apply to the U.S., including all the parts about over-reliance on the U.S. Well, except the part about universities, which is fairly nonspecific and McGill is #17 on the U.S. News ranking. And the U.N. investigation of our treatment of Native Americans hasn't actually started yet.

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