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[Mongrel]

Fools! I am proroguing beer production and retail! All Hail King Steve!

He looks like he's going to eat the thing.

You know when people say that you really can't judge a man's character by their face, that that's a load of old hogwash?

Those people are idiots.

Well, he sure ain't no John Baird*.

*_{I guess this is only funny if you know about John Baird's cat.}

[SCD]

That's pretty much the same point I make - that any action in the form of compensation is a non-act and pretty much anulls the bet. 

So, what do you say?

[Mongrel]

That's pretty much the same point I make - that any action in the form of compensation is a non-act and pretty much anulls the bet.  

So, what do you say?

So you actually want to bet on financial compensation will be ordered (or given) and not on whether or not the government will actually bring him back (forced or otherwise)?

Soooo... if I read that correctly:

I get a case of beer if Khadr is repatriated without court-ordered financial compensation before the next election.

You get a case of beer if Khadr is repatriated AND the government is forced to offer financial compensation (again before the next election). Not sure how you wanted to treat 'next election'.

All bets off if neither happens by the next election period, OR all bets off if Harper ceases to be PM (i.e. bets ride if he wins the next one).

[SCD]

No no no...  Clarification:

You get a case of beer of the government forces repaitriation or presses charges on the government of the day or option 3 which amounts to more than a slap on the wrist

I get a case of beer if that doesn't happen by the next election

if something financial happens if Khadar gets repatriated as a direct result of Camp Delta's tribunals, bet is null and void, we split costs of beer.

Works?

Next election is the end of the betting period.

[Büge]

I've got a similar bet going, actually.

If the government forces repatriation, I buy a sundress.

If it doesn't, I buy a box of Monsterpocalypse.

If Khadr gets a fat settlement, I buy both.

[Mongrel]

No no no...  Clarification:

You get a case of beer of the government forces repaitriation or presses charges on the government of the day or option 3 which amounts to more than a slap on the wrist

I get a case of beer if that doesn't happen by the next election

if something financial happens if Khadar gets repatriated as a direct result of Camp Delta's tribunals, bet is null and void, we split costs of beer.

Works?

Next election is the end of the betting period.

Oh okay, that was what I originally thought, but all this financial compensation talk confused me.

Let's just keep it as clear as possible and toss the compensation talk - if money gets involved it will by definition only happen after some form of repatriation, so let's go with:

- I get a case of beer if the government is forced to repatriate Khadr (or is at least formally ordered to, even if the actual physical transfer doesn't happen immediately) before the next election.
- You get a case of beer if not.
- If the US sends him back to us without our asking (i.e. Camp Delta tribunal says GTFO, etc), bets are off.

[SCD]

deal

Now I know how it feels to be a political deal-maker in parliament.

[SCD]

Hey mongrel, Buge, how do you feel about the TTC drama?

[Büge]

Has the TTC stopped running?

[SCD]

Nah, people just uploaded a bunch of photos and videos of TTC types f***ing the chicken, causing management to slap wrists causing union to  causing public to complain more. 

Wondering how much of what I see on the globe and the star is hyperbole

[Mongrel]

Nah, people just uploaded a bunch of photos and videos of TTC types f***ing the chicken, causing management to slap wrists causing union to   causing public to complain more.  

Wondering how much of what I see on the globe and the star is hyperbole

This is pretty much it.

Basically, everyone was pissed at the TTC for raising fares at new year's so there was this simmering resentment lingering. The TTC guys are an old school 'Union crew' so, they have a good number of bottom-feeders who milk the system.

Combine the two + INTERNETS and you get DRAMA. I didn't give a damn, really, because it was set to blow over, but the Sun keeps looking for dumbshit to pick at (IDLING BUSES IS FRONT PAGE NEWS OMG OMG OMG) so they can be all INVESTIGATIVE and TTC management is starting to give the workers shit (some deserved, some undeserved), so now I'm mildly worried, because it's turning into this stupid escalation fight on all sides just because nobody can let go.

I haven't bothered with the Star (oh god), but the Globe seems to be mostly just playing a disinterested third party... most of their articles blandly describe the goings-on, with things like "the Sun reported blahblahblah and the TTC union has replied with yaddayadda in response". EDIT: Actually scratch that. I just saw the Globe has an article of their own about how they busted into the TTC's super secret FACEBOOK CLUB.

ROLL. EYES.

It's worth mentioning that the TTC is still the most underfunded Public Transit system of any major city on the continent and that it had been estimated that gridlock in this burg will cost us upward of 10 Billion in the next decade. Keep in mind that's not a defense of the union or the papers. That's just numbers.

***

Hell, that reminds me. Anybody else see Mark Carney and the BoC's assessment of Canada's cripplingly awful productivity? It's so bad that the estimate the BoC put out was every last citizen of Canada stands to lose about $30,000 in missed gains (and some real losses) over the next decade. This doesn't even count aspects of that that were harder to quantify. That stuff ctaches my eye, because I follow the productivity story as it comes up now and again. It's going to make a lot more difference in our lives than a lot of other shit that's floating around Ottawa.

Someone put a price tag on Canadian mediocrity and man, it ain't pretty.  

[Mongrel]

So how about those Olympics, eh? Can't wait to hide from everyone for weeks while the stupid flows like water (just like the snow is looking to do on Mount Cypress, LOL)!

[SCD]

Will be in Vancouver next week passing through town for some business.  Will be passing the opposite way in two days after that.

Will let you know what the ground feel is like then. 

Otherwise, the local's aren't happy.

[Mongrel]

Khadr update

Not much here, but the fifth paragraph contains a somewhat relevant update to our bet.

[SCD]

Interesting. 

They must have heard of the bet. 

So yeah, the locals not being happy about the olympics?  That was bullshit.  It's a party, people are happy, the police are polite, and travelling through downtown is pretty easy.  The shows are fun, and the weather's a douche, but that's alright because I always wanted to see olympic grade athletes on edge due to fast speeds. 

That's pretty much the sum of that in a nutshell.  People are playing nice, and the protests fizzed.

The weather was lovely as well.  Was able to play barefoot frisbee before heading back to my Ontario fortress of solitude the other day.  The people from other nations are enjoying the weather and the fact that the westcoasters can have their snowboarding and frisbee on the same day.

[SCD]

Harper consider's tinkering with Oh Canada

No!  Bad PM!

Bonus:  a ballsy way to go out.

[Mongrel]

Yeah, the O Canada stuff is such a damn waste of time.

[Brentai]

...under God.

[Mongrel]

Here's the thing.

Nobody in Canada really gives a rat's ass about the national anthem.

Fun bonus story: The national anthem was written by one of Koipond's ancestors. There's also a funny story about that and a recent border crossing, but I'm a bit too lazy to type it up right now.

[SCD]

Uh, I like the national anthem.  It's a nice song - and ours.