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Re: News from the North
« Reply #440 on: May 17, 2010, 11:26:58 AM »

Lumber industry and environmental groups to arrange permanent truce.

Now, if this turns out to be non-bullshit and both sides make a genuine effort to make the idea work, this may be one of the only smart moves I've seen in Canadian industry in quite a while.

Sure there will always be fringe green-heads who'll protest anything anyone does, but a true working partnership would be an unbelievable coup for both sides.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #441 on: May 22, 2010, 05:02:23 PM »

Robert Munsch has been using coke for the last five years to combat his bipolar disorder.

Honestly, I can't begrudge the guy trying to keep himself functioning. And it doesn't affect the warm memories of his stories about Jonathan's futile cleanup attempts or a princess that realizes she doesn't need a man in her life, just a singed paper bag dress.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #442 on: May 22, 2010, 05:12:46 PM »

Saw that. The response to his admission has been overwhelmingly supportive, from what I can see.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #443 on: June 03, 2010, 09:55:58 AM »

John Baird: Macleans Parliamentarian of the year

Good fucking God in heaven, someone just shoot me now.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #444 on: June 03, 2010, 10:20:56 AM »

I guess he's just really recognizable...?  :shrug:
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #445 on: June 03, 2010, 10:24:56 AM »

Well, to be fair, the phrase "Baird’s is perhaps the definitive face of the Harper era." is 100% correct.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #446 on: June 13, 2010, 10:34:01 AM »

So what about the Libs being all tsundere for the NDP?

Also I do not care how ridiculous this actually is, because I get a little bit of a boner thinking about Canada as a world power. Just a little bit.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #447 on: June 13, 2010, 10:53:04 AM »

Thoughts on the call to grow Canada's population:

1) This can only speedily happen through ramping up Canada's immigration system - a system that already allows in more immigrants per capita than any other nation on the planet.

2) This is a really old idea. People have been arguing this point since before Confederation and have seriously argued for it as a possible policy since Laurier called for the twentieth Century to be 'Canada's Century'. Imaginative and novel my ass!

3) It may happen anyway. If people are right about the potential severity of global climate change, Canada will be one of the very very few countries in any kind of position to accept large waves of climate refugees.

4) This policy can only work if Canada finally finds a way to channel new immigration to the smaller towns which are currently declining in population (which we have actually tried but failed to do through the past 50 years of immigration). Dumping more immigrants on the major metropolitan areas - of which we have a total of three, four if you're feeling generous - is asking for disaster, but this is ALREADY the current default state. 

5) We're already having trouble making use of the immigrants we accept. The accreditation of foreign skills is at an all-time-low and new immigrants are now only making 65% of a native-born citizen's wage on average now, as opposed to 20 years ago when new immigrants were making on average 80% of a native-born citizen's wage on average (number taken from an article I saw just this week).

6) Who says intensive population growth is so great? I for one would like to retain some underpopulated countryside, thanks (not to mention encourage some gradual global depopulation, without resorting to fun things like genocide).

7) Who says making Canada powerful is so great? Do we really need to export the social and cultural values of a country which is now basically a national-scale personification of a lazy, mediocre, middle-class, self-satisfied asshole, mostly known for avoiding work and paying lip-service to anything of real value?

8) On the plus side, maybe with that many immigrants we could dilute our former ruling classes to the point that someone here might get something fucking done and do it right for the first (or even second or third) time since, oh I dunno, the seventies.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #448 on: June 13, 2010, 11:25:51 AM »

6) Who says intensive population growth is so great? I for one would like to retain some underpopulated countryside, thanks (not to mention encourage some gradual global depopulation, without resorting to fun things like genocide).

This this this this this.

This.

Let's keep the true north strong and free.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #449 on: June 13, 2010, 12:05:51 PM »

Speaking of point #7... Current parliamentary session closes without anybody having really got anything done.

Haha, fuck, shit, geez maybe we should've just Stevie prorogue the whole fuckin' shitpile forever after all.

Yeah, I'm not bitter.

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #450 on: June 13, 2010, 08:09:51 PM »

Got something to say on this one.  First as you can already see, most of the productive Europe's already gone in terms of the demographic crunch but to argue this would be to ignore the summer trends in France, and the overall birthrate in declining nations such as Greece, Portugal, Spain, or Germany.  We're not too far away either.  As with France, Denmark has also recently had its say in terms of the immigration, especially considering that every influential person there has to live with hired security or risk ending up like Van Gogh...

Sadly, I'm a strong believer that while the rest of the world is in a position to suffer from climate change, the northern nations are in a position to prosper as the permafrost heads up further north beyond the continent to the pole.  Previously the edges of permafrost have been a strong impediment to development as the freeze-thaw cycle makes things as shit simple such as streets or housing a pretty epic challenge up north.  While there will be a period of bad luck for all the territories, the ice will be gone for good sooner than later. 

Add the fact that as of this summer, the buffers that ensure the creation of first-year sea ice are not around (google the team "Ice arches"), most of the insulation this year is gone.  I'm willing to bet that by 2012, the Northwest passage will be fair game to the non-icebreakers in the summer months.  This means as much as we wish to continue mediocrity, we may not have that option much longer as far as the North is concerned.  After all if we want to have all our rules such as "no oil tankerz" in Canadian waters, we need to enforce that.  Currently the only enforcers are American submarines, but they're not really there (so forget that I said that).  Either we man up about certain areas, or we will lose the north in no different a fashion than how the Spanish lost the pacific northwest in the days of colonization.  As much as we would like to believe that agreements written on paper and transnational courts will protect our mineral rights up north, in desperate times the one with the gun usually gets the say.  If you have any questions on how that works, please see the origins of piracy in Somalia.  While you may be wondering how some wahabbis and Eritritians influencing dirt poor Africans has anything to do with this, but keep in mind that you will have a larger proportion who are currently unemployed by the standards of western civilization, but have also lost their hunting grounds as well.  While some people may poo-poo this on account that there are no weapons nearby, keep in mind that they are closer to Russia than the rest of us, and their arms factories really could use the business (while the concept of a netural nation mucking with our lives may shock you, keep in mind that there are no longer any war relics in Afghanistan.  The rockets and arms captured over there are increasingly Chinese)...

That being said, we cannot go about just immigrating our woes away, otherwise we will end up like Toronto and Ottawa with a large proportion of partially-qualified, yet unemployed youth.  After two machete incidents in my city this year, I personally wouldn't mind a ban of immigration from states without a functioning society myself.  Preferably one with the secret-police "you fuck around and you and your families will disappear" type will do nicely, but I would even settle for tribal areas which are historically apolitical, such as the Kurds or Druze among others.  I'm sure the Coptic Christians and Sufi's in places like turkey and Iraq would be more than thrilled at the prospect of preferred immigration, given 2006 for Iraq, and the way things are currently going in Turkey...  As far as BC, while the Sikhs are still a major issue as The Honorable Mr Dosanjh quietly points out this year (the last time he did, he was sent to the ER and a India-bound plane from Canada was bombed by sikhs the next week), the Chinese didn't really get the clue the other century when we sent them as suicide bombs to build our tunnels for the railway and since then they've done a great job immigrating and integrating.  Between the composition of the mil reserve units in Vancouver and the fact that the scouting movement is still strong and proud even in the "If you're white you're a minority" areas.  Heck, was in a chinatown for robbie burns day a few years back out of coincidence, and there was a place where I had stirfry, haggis and scotch in the same meal.  What can I say, I'm a sucker for traditions like that, and for people who while refusing to give up their own traditions, will more than gladly pick up the host nations up to the point where they compliment.  Yes, the crime is an issue with the drug and bootleg trades, but how else am I going to afford Tommy Hillfiger and SK on a post-grad's budget?

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As far as governmental accomplishment goes, I dispute that government's effectiveness is measured in just laws past.  If that was the case, you'd end up with a city like Ottawa where because some whale-petting tree-hugging, save the world councillors decided to get bored, and wanted to look like they were doing something I now can be a criminal or ticketed trying to walk home from downtown (I live about a good 10km yomp west), or walk my dog in an unoccupied field without a leash in a suburban setting where no appropriate areas exist within a reasonable distance.  Fuck the bills.  Fuck the laws, if anything time needs to be spent also scaling back a lot of the more idiotic laws on social conduct which would have made sense in the past.  I don't expect anything to get done in the meantime between the format of Question Period, as well as other procedure's I've seen on the hill... 

Lets talk real progress and something that isn't can't be defined by laws and something dear to me:  The Navy.  The navy is in it's centennial and I'm sure if anyone follows the Canadian news, they'll have noticed the procession of the fleet in my old stomping grounds, or as I like to call it:  home.  Yet in this great time of honor, the navy has nothing to show for it except the return of an old British tradition:  The executive curl.  The navy is right now not in it's better days due to sacrificed made by all the forces to continue the expensive, but lawful and just counterinsurgency in support of our greatest ally, the states.  In fact, it got to the point, where the CNS had to politically humulate the CDS in order to ensure that his frigates didn't go to mothballs.  While there is a general money issue, what is even more strange (and another relic of years of horrible fiscal policy) is that there are a couple billion dollars which sit untouched every year for the creation of new ships, let alone the parts.  However, the problem is that between the treasury board and the rigmarole of "fair contract bidding" and the legal costs of lawsuits from the losing companies, we have not seen a new ship since the Halifax-Class anti-submarine patrol frigates which finished off in the mid nineties.  This despite knowing that our trumps and minesweepers are long gone, and that our replenishment ships are next on the decommissioning line.  And as much as I want to blame the Tories for the current state, the navy of today was built ten years ago, and the 90's were called the "dark decade" in defense lines for a pretty good reason...

The Conservative government's framework on long-term shipyard designation helps there in creating a contract that "for ten years, you will build this size of vessel, you over there will build that size, and you guys will do parts".  This way, there is a saving on cost in assembly line because it remains in the same location over a long period of time.  This is important because the companies were too afraid of impending lawsuits government side which would have caused the shipyards to lose contracts that no one bid on the joint support shift the Tories were dreaming of alongside the Leopard-2 tanks. 

Yes I understand that I present only one example in a sea of mediocraty, but that's because I pay more attention to the military and geoscience sides than the average person can.  Otherwise all I have is bell media, some government-funded elites who have an axe to grind, and canwest global and all they're interested in talking about is how the PM is doing skullfuckery to ensure that names of detainees that were awaiting trial in the sandbox weren't made public (while explicitly ignoring statements about the operational reasons why they weren't), the amplitude of Baird's yell, or how the PM shitkicked one of his cabinet when she became too much drama and not enough effectiveness or how the PMO is a concentration of the power (no change from previous gov'ts).  No, I'm through and pretty tired of that lot.  To solely measure the effectiveness of the government based on criteria by approved columnists in the media is to fail to judge the government based on their actual merits and flaws. 

Executive Summary
- Immigration en masse is not working for the progressive nations incl EU OZ UK Etc.  We require to increase birthrates to sustainable levels, of which only the US has.  We should figure out which states have high levels and emulate those techniques
- In addition, government needs to be more selective of people to allow immigration.  Choose from only nations with a civil society, secular regions where society is failing, or in special cases in which individuals and their families have assisted Canadian Gov't abroad
- The north will be open no later than 2015:  We are going to have to man up there or lose sovereignty.  Progressives need to learn that in cases of the frontier and within that this sovereignty will have to be enforced at places by the barrel of the gun.
- While the tores could be doing much better in office, their progress and work should not be measured by just the laws past. 
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #451 on: June 14, 2010, 08:11:34 PM »

And to think my mother's been telling me I ought to join the Canadian Navy because it's a guaranteed job and they haven't so much as fired a shot in decades except to spook Somalian pirates.  It's going to be a big nautical horror show up north sooner than later.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #452 on: June 15, 2010, 03:06:12 AM »

That'll make the navy a good job anyway.

Trying not to be mean, but you probably shouldn't let SCD's somewhat rambling diatrabe deter you from taking what might be a good job.

The Navy is perpetually under recruitment. If you're healthy and not a lunatic, you're a shoe-in. And the latter one, well, maybe they'll give ya pass on anyway ;)
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #453 on: June 15, 2010, 08:57:24 AM »

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #454 on: June 15, 2010, 10:43:15 AM »

Yeah, been seeing the inane chatter on that one for days. That should be worth a few giggles.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #455 on: June 15, 2010, 10:53:32 AM »

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The new channel will share resources and reporters with Sun Media and will have an emphasis on "strong personalities," Péladeau said.
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Kory Teneycke, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's former communications director, will be vice-president in charge of developing the news operation.

He came out swinging against Canada's existing news networks at the news conference, saying they are "narrow, complacent and politically correct."

"We're taking on smug, condescending, often irrelevant journalism. We're taking on political correctness," Teneycke said.
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The network will offer "strong opinions and analysis" but will carry a range of points of view, he said.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #456 on: June 15, 2010, 02:37:06 PM »

In my book, anyone who insults the CBC news service is basically an asshole.

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yaaaaay

extremists yelling at each other 'round the clock

just what canada needed
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #457 on: June 15, 2010, 05:09:45 PM »

Dooly, if you are a Canadian Citizen, than we want you in the navy.  The pay is good, and while there is the good with the bad, the peacetime quality of life is really, really good.  You can make a career out of this, you can retire on this, and you can support a family on this.  Strongly suggested if you've got no other options and you are bright.

Mongrel  ::(:  I should get to the point and faster lest I don't want a position on Fox.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #458 on: June 15, 2010, 05:13:39 PM »

Let's just say you ah... branched off a bit here and there.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #459 on: June 18, 2010, 05:49:38 AM »

I finally found a Twitter account worth following.

In spite of his hilariously egregious Muskoka-riding pork-barrelling, Tony has been just about the only guy in the conservative caucus I either like or respect (not that there are that many MPs in the other caucuses I like or respect). 
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