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Re: News from the North
« Reply #540 on: May 02, 2011, 08:23:33 AM »

cock-bloqued

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #541 on: May 02, 2011, 09:55:30 AM »

This just in: Zed hates mustaches.

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #542 on: May 02, 2011, 04:57:15 PM »

I voted a week ago.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #543 on: May 02, 2011, 05:06:46 PM »

Hey what ridings are you guys in?

Amusingly, I'm in Layton's riding but didn't vote for him (thought about it for a bit though).

Man, how awesome would it be for this neighbourhood to actually get some of that "You live in the Prime Minister's Riding, welcome to the Gravy Train" shit that always goes down? It's actually... not impossible!
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #544 on: May 02, 2011, 05:13:29 PM »

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #545 on: May 02, 2011, 06:12:55 PM »

Man, how awesome would it be for this neighbourhood to actually get some of that "You live in the Prime Minister's Riding, welcome to the Gravy Train" shit that always goes down? It's actually... not impossible!

Now that's what I'd call a moustache ride.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #546 on: May 02, 2011, 06:18:33 PM »

Holy Christ the Bloc is getting wiped off the map. Early returns show them with only SIX SEATS (they had fourty-seven going in). The Liberals are getting WASTED too.

Once results start coming in from BC, things are going to get INTERESTING.

EDIT: Uh, make that four for the Bloc.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #547 on: May 02, 2011, 06:34:22 PM »

Ohhhhhhh fuck, things do not look good for avoiding a Harpo majority.

Fuck fuck fuck.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #548 on: May 02, 2011, 06:41:54 PM »

I don't understand it at all. What will it take to get rid of this asshole? Does he need to literally be in jail before people will stop voting for his bullshit?
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #549 on: May 02, 2011, 06:54:32 PM »

Well, the "I'm over 45" demographic is pretty locked in for Harpo.

I think a fair number of seats will have gone to Harpo through vote splits, but also their popular vote was higher than anticipated. I also bet their get-out-the-vote-machine is second to none.

What can I say? People voted for Dubya and I always knew that Canadians aren't really any smarter.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #550 on: May 02, 2011, 06:57:31 PM »

Oh man, it looks like Elizabeth May might actually win her seat! Ha!
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #551 on: May 02, 2011, 07:22:41 PM »



I can't think of a more appropriate time to use this image.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #552 on: May 02, 2011, 07:42:51 PM »

So what happened? I am too american to find out on my own.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #553 on: May 02, 2011, 08:04:38 PM »

Mongrel is probably better at explaining this type of thing but:

Up until today, the Conservative Party (our Republican equivalent) had a Minority government, meaning that they had more seats in parliament than any one party, but if the other parties teamed up on an issue, they could outvote the Conservatives*. The Conservative Party has won a Majority Government. They now have enough control over parliament to make decisions without seeking support from other parties.

*I think that's how it works
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #554 on: May 02, 2011, 08:07:24 PM »

So yeah, we can expect social programs to be gutted, less transparency in government, and spending tax money on a military we never use.

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #555 on: May 02, 2011, 08:21:56 PM »

Basically Smiler, the Liberals, the party that used to be THE centrist party, and the party that won maybe 2/3rds of the time, has hit a historic low, Meanwhile the NDP (strong leftist) party, usually a third-place also-ran that served as something of a "conscience" to the two main parties, has gained a vote total of about 250% of their high-water mark. In Quebec, the regional Bloc party that had been strong there for 20 years was, well, totally obliterated. The conservatives won a majority through vote splits and mistakes on the part of the Liberals.

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If I was a betting man, I would call the next election as a true three-way race. The NDP are gonna have some new faces who'll be certain to do some stupid things, given that they were total longshot candidates, cones unexpected to win. The Liberals will be at least a little better off, without the full weight of the Con propaganda machine gunning them down every day (that will now be directed at the NDP)., and while the Cons will no doubt still have a strong core, I can only see them losing votes - I think this will be their high -water mark under Harper. He's just too prone to self-inflicted damage, even with the tightest imaginable controls.

A lot will depend on who the Liberals will choose as a new leader, and how well Layton manages a hugely increased stable. The NDP might look like government material if they do really well in opposition.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #556 on: May 02, 2011, 08:23:48 PM »

Also, it is so cute that Elizabeth May won her seat.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #557 on: May 02, 2011, 08:26:29 PM »

For what it's worth, I also think there are some limits on what Harper might fuck up. He's smart and experienced enough not to do anything dramatically destructive (for instance, I actually believe him on the point about Supreme Court justices), it's more the neverending parade of horribly stupid little incompetences and petty little jabs that will degrade our government piece by piece. Stuff like the fighter jets, the unneeded jails, the census fuckery, etc., none of these things are a total disaster in and of themselves, it's only when it's taken all together that the picture stinks.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #558 on: May 03, 2011, 02:46:45 AM »

Part of me feels down right now to say the least, but Québec could have done far worse than the NPD, and I'm happy to see we've become the biggest bastion of non-Conservatism left without going so low as to elect a bunch of Liberals. Plus we've proven that as a people we can change our collective mind. So I suppose there's nothing to it but looking forward to the future.

a future with harper's name on it

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #559 on: May 03, 2011, 03:23:00 AM »

And, hey, there's another silver lining. We lost the Bloc, but in a way we've still made it clear that we're pretty damn different from the rest of that big ol' back-asswards plane-buyin' kid-jailin' nature-rapin' country.

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