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Re: News from the North
« Reply #560 on: May 03, 2011, 05:03:54 AM »

And, hey, there's another silver lining. We lost the Bloc, but in a way we've still made it clear that we're pretty damn different from the rest of that big ol' back-asswards plane-buyin' kid-jailin' nature-rapin' country.



Can I come live with you Zed
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #561 on: May 03, 2011, 05:31:10 AM »

Oh man, Maxime Bernier won his seat. AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #562 on: May 03, 2011, 06:27:13 AM »

Can I come live with you Zed

that would be sweet except it ain't gonna make a gdamn difference 'cause we ain't actually separated yet

but hey, clearly the NPD is the new Bloc so all bets are off amirite :whoops:

Seriously though Layton owes Québec so much it's not even funny. We basically own him now. How sneaky of us, squeezing our way in the official opposition chair again right through the back door!

Oh man, Maxime Bernier won his seat. AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Jesus Christ. My mother's side of the family is from Beauce. I think I'm gonna have to start saying I'm from Pakistan or something.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #563 on: May 03, 2011, 07:51:20 AM »

That guy is such an incredible assclown. I can't wait for the eventual day he tries to run for leader of the Cons. :glee:

Anyway, I feel worse about the election that I did last night (ugh!). Unless the Liberals seriously rebuild AND get themselves a smart, credible leader who can attract a wide following, this will mark the beginning of polarized American style politics. Stay well away from Bob Rae, Justin, and all the others. See if you can drag John Manley or someone - anyone! - with real rock-solid business credibility back.

A lot of people are comparing the Canada of today to the UK of 1922. back then, the Liberals, a centrist party that had governed very successfully for most of the previous 50 years, were destroyed in two elections only to be eclipsed by Labour, who permanently drove the middle-class vote into the hands of their Tories. Last night I saw ample evidence of that middle-class shift here, and it probably accounted for more Conservative wins in borderline ridings than vote-splitting did.

That said, the Canada of 2011 is not the same as the UK of 1922, there are a few crucial differences.

- The biggest rise in NDP votes came from a section of the population that had been effectively out of play in federal politics.
- The Cons can still potentially self-immolate (Harper is as Harper does).
- As bad as income disparities are getting, on its worst day Canada is not half so stratified as England.
- Other demographic differences (though these are a mixed bag - an aging population favours the Conservatives)
- We could even see a shift where the NDP becomes centrist and the Greens take their place on the left, leaving us right where we were only with different labels. This would take a while though. Probably a full generation.

At the risk of repeating myself, the survival of multi-party elections now hinges on what each party does in the next four years. But especially on what the Liberals choose to do.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #564 on: May 03, 2011, 08:42:17 AM »

Prediction: new Con government tightens borders; Windsor completely collapses as the stream of 19-year-olds from Michigan looking for the Tijuana of the North dries up.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #565 on: May 03, 2011, 09:05:21 AM »

Hahaha. Maybe!

Oh, one other thing to add to my list of "Why the Canada of 2011 MIGHT not turn out to be the UK of 1922": Zed might be right in a very indirect way! The NDP might just become the new Bloc (i.e. the "Quebec Party").

But even in that case they'll still have a reach outside the Province, which is something the Bloc never had. So I guess it's another argument in favour of there being true three-way races - if the Liberals shape up.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #566 on: May 03, 2011, 12:30:02 PM »

I guess that's not entirely fair; should probably be "stream of 25-year-old skeezes following trickle of 19-year-old girls only recently acquainted with tequila".
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #567 on: May 03, 2011, 02:27:33 PM »

So Jack just totally blew off the idea of an NDP/Liberal merger. My surprised face, let me show it to you.

But that's actually good news, since it means we'll remain a three-party state. So even if the Liberals totally fuck everything up, they'll still be hanging around whenever the wheel finally turns.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #568 on: May 05, 2011, 08:16:20 PM »

Okay, I've mostly ignored the silliness with Ruth-Ellen Brosseau, but man, just look at her dad.

:lol:

EDIT: I think the NDP would look better if they just straight up admitted "look, we really didn't expect to win this riding AT ALL and thought that this would some valuable experience for a party organizer". Like, that looks bad, but not nearly as bad as the "ummmmm... ahhhhh... errrr..." canned lines.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #569 on: May 05, 2011, 08:52:06 PM »

Man, I wish I'd thought of that.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #570 on: May 06, 2011, 06:04:48 AM »

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #571 on: May 06, 2011, 06:14:44 AM »

Oh my god wow.

WHAT IS THAT FROM?!
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #572 on: May 06, 2011, 07:59:28 AM »

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #573 on: May 17, 2011, 07:16:36 PM »

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Re: News from the North
« Reply #574 on: May 17, 2011, 07:52:25 PM »

I'm not sure what that means for us...
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #575 on: May 18, 2011, 07:22:18 PM »

Hilarious embarrassment!
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #576 on: July 26, 2011, 03:07:39 PM »

Let me remind you: This is our Mayor

I mean, at this point, I would actually trade him for George W. No questions asked.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #577 on: August 09, 2011, 08:46:47 PM »

And this is one of our most senior City Councillors

This is the same guy that wanted to turn a portion of the Toronto Islands into a designated Red Light district (for non-residents: The islands contains an airport, an arts community, some beaches, and a childrens' theme park) and who was once caught in a strip club on the taxpayers dime (He claimed it was "research". Do politicians still even make those kinds of claims with a straight face anymore? I guess so!)

Meanwhile, our mayor, such as he is, has received his second legit death threat in as many weeks.

I mean, even Hamilton is making fun of us now (for non-residents: This is like Buffalo making fun of New York).

Just burn this city to the ground. Everything wrong with this country flows from here or Calgary, so that'd get us halfway to somewhere decent.
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #578 on: August 12, 2011, 08:29:32 AM »

Giorgio Mammoliti - the gift that keeps on giving

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Even after wide criticism of his anti-Communist rants, Mr. Mammoliti is holding firm to his view that a red scourge is prevalent among Canada’s left.

“There’s an underground element that has filtered into a major party in this country,” he said of the NDP. “I’m dead serious about this.”

He said six or seven communists sit on City Council with a long-term plot of installing “a system of government where government takes over all private property and controls the thoughts and views of people.”
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Re: News from the North
« Reply #579 on: August 22, 2011, 09:05:43 AM »

Jack Layton died today.

(Cross-posted from obit thread)
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