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CLOSED
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Romosome
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Niku
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Classic
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Laser
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Koah is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Envy
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Newbie
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McDohl is DEAD
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Kazz is DEAD
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Kayma
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Transportation is DEAD
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Verde is DEAD
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Angry Beaver is DEAD
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Friend
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Zara is DEAD
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Guild is DEAD
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Smiler is DEAD
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Zach is DEAD
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NexAdruin
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #360 on: March 31, 2011, 08:54:41 PM »

I really want to hear from kazz before we put him in mortal danger. If it turns out he's a bad, we can do serial killer manifesto analysis and all such nonsense. It'll be fun? It'll be ???? It'll be profit?
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #361 on: March 31, 2011, 08:56:59 PM »

I have been holding out on voting for that reason. Kazz is a huge liability, and I was going to vote for him in my last post, but since Classic used an extension, I would like to see if he responds before I vote.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #362 on: March 31, 2011, 09:53:12 PM »

Hammer extends the day 24 hours from 1 hour from now. Unless someone else Hammers, day ends at Midnight PST, tomorrow.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #363 on: March 31, 2011, 10:34:09 PM »

BUT... Kazz has claimed to be the vigilante, which means whatever evil team gets him will be able to remove two innocents every night instead of one. ... Why would a Turned not use its kill, especially one whose days are clearly numbered?

By the way this was me not reading the rules. The vigilante only gets one kill per game, durr hurr! Also Friday clarified the action order of fresh Turned so yeah that entire paragraph is basically garbage. Whoops!
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #364 on: April 01, 2011, 12:44:13 AM »

Newbie, why?

The three major suspects under discussion are Kazz, Guild, and myself.

FIRST: Kazz is probably evil; I even suggested why he would have saved his bullet for the team that turned him. However, as I stated previously, I'm open to the idea that he wasn't turned, and I'm not comfortable writing him off until we've given him enough time. If lynchtime tomorrow rolls around and he still hasn't posted, I'll probably use my hammertime and switch my vote to him.

SECOND: I've said more than enough on the subject of Guild already this game. I've taken to thinking of him as Schrödinger's wolf, because his lines of reasoning are so alien and unintuitive to me that he always simultaneously seems both innocent and evil. I'm pretty sure that he'd read that and immediately accuse me of being a vampire because why else would I specifically say wolf and not something else, nevermind the fact that a reference to Schrödinger's cat that uses "monster" or "vampwolf" or something strikes me as connotationally and aesthetically terrible, and my desire to use communication that I wouldn't personally find infuriating trumps my desire to always signal that my internal model of this game's state includes my view of myself as an innocent who doesn't know the exact makeup of the wolf team or vamp team. I know I make mistakes as a player, but the fact that he's accusing those posts of containing those mistakes feels a little insulting. Give me a little more credit than that, man.

I'm eager for Guild to be out of the game, because the tension between his two possible identities is driving me up the wall: he's either innocent and playing very poorly, or he's a non-innocent and he's playing with a subtle, exasperating brilliance. I would far prefer for the latter scenario to be true, because he approaches these games with an enthusiasm very much like my own, and I would like to see such enthusiasm rewarded with gameplay success. His flights of fancy and seemingly random accusations have needled me into turning myself into one of the top three suspects right now. My history with wolfgames shows that it really doesn't take much for that to happen, but at least if he's evil then all his machinations will bear fruit, and I'd much rather that be the case than the alternative—although I realize now that this isn't reason enough to vote for him.

If people actually believe he's wolfish, though, I definitely agree. Public opinion's moving away from him, though.

THIRD: Verde just voted for Friend on day 1. When I was under the impression that anybody could will their items to somebody else, Guild tried to will his items to Verde. When Guild was trying to convince people to continue with the day 1 lynch, Verde argued in support of that. He pushed against the Ohak lynch on day 2, but he was one of the early votes for McDohl. Day 3, he's the first person to actually vote for Kazz, but he switched to me after Kazz started getting more votes.

All of that suggests to me a very subtle allegiance between Guild and Verde. I can easily see a scenario where they're both vamps and Guild is the loud one and Verde is the quiet one, and when we lynch Guild as we're prone to, Verde can protest that Guild willed him those items as a misdirection tactic—which makes particular sense if Guild spends all his money on PI biddings as he admitted to doing on day 2. I'll admit that I'm going mostly on instinct here, but I mainly voted for Verde not because I thought we'd get him lynched, but because I wanted it known that I had done so, should my innocence be proved with my death in the near future. (Along those same lines: I get fishy feelings from Transportation and NexAdruin. I'm curious about Zara, Niku, koah, and Romosome. I don't yet feel suspicious of Friend, angry beaver, Smiler, Kayma, or Zach. I'm heavily conflicted about Classic and LaserBeing. I'm pretty sure Envy's a vampire (or werewolf?) now, but I'm not sure I want to lynch the oracle on a hunch until we've taken out the Big Bads, since I've already argued why both groups might have wanted to avoid him.)
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #365 on: April 01, 2011, 12:48:16 AM »

yeah let's all kill your turned each turn until you win good plan wtF laser?!

lets kill newbie pls?!?!??!!?!?!?

oh my bad you're right let's leave the turned vigilante around until he shoots the oracle

I hadn't thought of that.  :slow: Like I said.

Edit: And I think Guild's vehement defense of killing Kazz adds to the 'Guild is Scum' pile.

KAZZ


;./..hadn't thought of that either, thanks

uh... what, i don't get to miss things? why am i scum angry? all i did was ask some questions and agree with laser... hmm, why am i scum? can you tell me? answer one question?
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #366 on: April 01, 2011, 12:54:33 AM »

bah you're letting gdrac get away

but if you really think envy's the oracle and want him protected (assumption) by killing kazz, sure go ahead

i'd rather just protect him myself, but whatever

why save envy now? the cat was out early because of OBVIOUS ENVY ORACLE CLAIM IS OBVIOUS and now we can be assured he's probably going to be turned after we kill kazz, another turned, and then we can just let the volves win

sorry about my use of scum, volves, other words, i realize now that y'all don't play like me

still, it's worth a good shot to kill newbie

see how distracting so many loud people are being from him

kazz, angry, laser (waht i don't even) all have votes (and me but i'm always the guild) and newbie is fucking greater dracutiger or something, i assure you to death if nothing else than for the sheer amount of OTHER NOISE that sprang up when a strong newbie wagon began

he's got ALL HIS TEAMMATES yelling now ahahahah

fucking SIX HOUR LAYOVER IN LOS ANGELES jesus fickle bitch pickler
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #367 on: April 01, 2011, 01:01:28 AM »

quote = two posts back

they're both vamps

what? not wolves? i'd see wolves being a slip. the game is clled werewolf

you think we're both, specifically, vampires? huh
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #368 on: April 01, 2011, 01:02:29 AM »

edit: 3 now 4 posts back, not 2
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #369 on: April 01, 2011, 01:04:00 AM »

i'm aaalmost tempted to just sit here and spam the thread until you mess up again newbie

Quote from: Newbie
but he switched to me after Kazz started getting more votes.
what? why? because kazz is also our teammate? this is getting complex!!
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #370 on: April 01, 2011, 01:22:24 AM »

Hammertime?

(i'd used one hammertime on day 2 already to help people read, so i'm out of hammertimes? not certain for certain)
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #371 on: April 01, 2011, 01:24:03 AM »

I think Guild is the double seer.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #372 on: April 01, 2011, 01:47:43 AM »

 His flights of fancy and seemingly random accusations have needled me

why? are you easily scared when innocent of accusations in real life? sorry if you are, but i can't take YOUR word on that
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #373 on: April 01, 2011, 01:51:57 AM »

i'm going to laugh later when you tell your own team to lynch you to save your win condition, newbie

can i vote for newbie twice?
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #374 on: April 01, 2011, 01:52:59 AM »

You only get one hammertime per game.

but if you really think envy's the oracle and want him protected (assumption) by killing kazz, sure go ahead

That's one reason but it's not the only reason. Actually, thanks to the combination of the day 1 no-lynch and a fortunate night 0 wolf scry, I think we're slightly ahead of where we would usually be on Day 3, in terms of numbers at least. I feel like that gives us a tiny bit of breathing room, but if we don't lynch Kazz we could potentially lose four innos tonight and that would put us right back in the red. The game is already low-population so I would just feel better trying to minimise the casualties as much as possible, particularly when I can't see a strong alternative. Especially since we're effectively down a Seer and an Oracle already; we need all the townpower we can muster.

Guild's point about not lynching Turned is a good one in general, but in this case I think we'd be better served by taking out the sniper. I know we need to kill the Masters as quickly as possible but at this point I'm just not confident enough to risk a mis-lynch and have the gun go off in my face as well.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #375 on: April 01, 2011, 01:59:22 AM »

ONLY TWO PEOPLE ARE DEAD FOLKS

this is whole GAME is full of bads and bads with knowledge!

i'm working with... about a thousand (quotable) lines to kazz, same for envy but unquotable atm, same for another player, and all four of us AT ONE POINT were inno (and three still are, i'm mostly certain)

i think i agree with laser

how about this, somebody from team evil that is not on newbie's team, use whatever you can to kill him and reveal his gdracness for me thanks

Kazz. Sigh.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #376 on: April 01, 2011, 02:07:19 AM »

Actually... it just occurred to me. If the vampires have already turned both Envy and Kazz, they might be planning to use Envy to find a wolf and Kazz to kill it. It'd mean they could actually take out at least one wolf without having to manipulate the lynch. That would actually be OK. It's pretty much the only use they'd have for an Oracle, since it only detects alignment, not role.

I almost want to leave Kazz alive just to see who he does kill, out of perverse curiosity...
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #377 on: April 01, 2011, 02:12:04 AM »

His flights of fancy and seemingly random accusations have needled me

why? are you easily scared when innocent of accusations in real life? sorry if you are, but i can't take YOUR word on that

No, I don't fluster easily when accused of blatantly false things in real life. I think you put too much stock in the concept of tells, and I think you're making a huge mistake when you assume that if you poke people enough, you can figure out exactly what's going on behind the scenes and position yourself optimally to win. I said that I found your habit of hanging on my choice of words misguided, to which you responded by doing exactly that:

quote = two posts back

they're both vamps

what? not wolves? i'd see wolves being a slip. the game is clled werewolf

you think we're both, specifically, vampires? huh

You did this specifically so I'd continue responding to you. I already apologized once for letting myself get carried away trying to respond to your distractions, which is why this is the last time I'm responding to you in this game.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #378 on: April 01, 2011, 05:06:57 AM »

fair and 1st not scummy defense

more reasonable sounding post, but you ARE gdrac :)

proven myself twice already - see: bongo, mcdohl

detractors believe... what? that guild + almost everybody is a team ha ha

kill newbie pls volves
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #379 on: April 01, 2011, 06:04:17 AM »

I almost want to leave Kazz alive just to see who he does kill, out of perverse curiosity...

Before you start thinking about that in any seriousness, that's a retarded idea. We can only spare Kazz if we can believe he's innocent and if he can slay a bad before awful times.

... Maybe he's the weretiger?
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