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CLOSED
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Romosome
- 2 (40%)
Niku
- 1 (20%)
Classic
- 0 (0%)
Laser
- 0 (0%)
Koah is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Envy
- 0 (0%)
Newbie
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McDohl is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Kazz is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Kayma
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Transportation is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Verde is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Angry Beaver is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Friend
- 0 (0%)
Zara is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Guild is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Smiler is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
Zach is DEAD
- 0 (0%)
NexAdruin
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #140 on: March 25, 2011, 07:32:12 PM »

yeah, that came off harsh on kazz, but i don't suspect the guy

for the record, being illogical is not wolfpire-y, it just should be corrected immediately, imho
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #141 on: March 25, 2011, 07:50:30 PM »

If I weren't on a terrible cell phone precluding me from opening another window to track votes and responses, I'd probably go to great lengths to demonstrate that this doesn't say anything meaningful about Niku or whatever. Instead I'm going to use my vote to convince Transportation to say more today, since I apparently can't afford to have him investigated.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #142 on: March 25, 2011, 07:55:49 PM »

I was just making assumptions based on my previous experiences in this crowd.

Situation 1: Innocent A starts a random vote against Innocent B, based on a die roll or the phase of the moon or whatever.  People pile on with little comment, and Innocent B hangs.  Day two, someone pipes up, "Hey, Innocent A wanted us to kill him!  Let's lynch his ass!"  And Innocent A hangs.

Situation 2: Innocent A starts an equally arbitrary vote against Werepire B.  People pile on with little comment, and Wolfpire B hangs.  Day two, everybody goes, "Well, I guess Innocent A is confirmed" (which is a bad assumption) and, what's worse, nobody had a history of defending or conversing with Wolfpire B.  We learn little.

Situation 2 is the best-case scenario, but you're not going to "gain information" like you so desire, you silly billies.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #143 on: March 25, 2011, 08:00:59 PM »

I still don't like that we fiddled while Bongo bled. But I doubt thats any good reason to hang Kazz. Yet. Vote removed.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #144 on: March 25, 2011, 10:14:15 PM »

I stlil say McDohl should really be checked out.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2011, 10:41:44 PM »

I was just making assumptions based on my previous experiences in this crowd.

Situation 1: Innocent A starts a random vote against Innocent B, based on a die roll or the phase of the moon or whatever.  People pile on with little comment, and Innocent B hangs.  Day two, someone pipes up, "Hey, Innocent A wanted us to kill him!  Let's lynch his ass!"  And Innocent A hangs.

I'll vouch for this happening frequently. It's not always on turn one, and it doesn't always happen, but a common line that I see is, "OK, we'll lynch Kazz today. But if he's not a wolfpire, we'll go after the person who told us to kill Kazz." It's common sense to investigate the people who lynch an influential innocent. A common iteration of this situation has Innocent A claiming to have "a hunch" or "a good feeling," which turns out to be just that -- and wrong.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2011, 10:44:30 PM »

Newbie's very first vote was for Classic, for reasons he himself called "arbitrary", and which he promptly went back on as soon as it looked like the crowd was swinging toward a no-lynch. Could this have been a wolf crying wolf? Wolves like to vote for each other early on, while the air is still thick with dice rolls and frivolous votes and there's a relatively slim chance a real bandwagon will form on any given "random" vote.

However, lest we fall victim to tunnel-vision and confirmation bias, let's not forget there are plenty of other dubious louts around here.

Niku is probably not a wolf, but that says nothing about him being a vampire (or the weretiger am i rite lol niku).

McDohl and Transportation have been awfully quiet. Romosome too, but I know he has a Real Job *snerk*

I think the first thing on my mind though is that Koah has gotten away with saying absolutely nothing for a bit too long now.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #147 on: March 25, 2011, 11:41:07 PM »

...huh. Looks like I missed most of page 7 while on my phone.

In review, Newbie's post 101 is the worst post ever! He's basically saying ALRIGHT SHUT UP STOP TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND JUST GO GO GO WHO CARES WHAT WE PICK which is what scum want above all. Fuck that. Anti inno points +2 but -1 because apparently most of the town agreed (though they could all have been hasty hasty scum making him look 'right' by agreeing). I realize a long day is painful. That doesn't make it bad for MY team.

Post 101 was Friend, not me. Gonna assume you meant 110 instead, which is pretty obvious now that I reread it because 110 more forgivingly matches up with the attitude you're ascribing to me.

I wish to contest that attitude. I very much cared who we picked, and was not impatient with the proceedings, but with your insistence that a lack of a lynch on day 1 meant we'd have no information. In fact, I feel your summary of the events of day 1 leaves out the obvious elephant in the room.

The following people voted for Bongo Bill yesterday:

A vote for the first voter is always a vote for a random voter. Bongo Bill.
Bongo Bill because he was the first to point at someone else.

Additionally, as we all know, Bongo voted for Niku himself, before choosing to vote for no one.

I've always considered a wolf night-killing the same person he voted on during the day kind of an amateur move and obvious set-up, but I've also done exactly this myself because then I can argue that I'm being set up. Not saying we should vote for Guild or NexAdruin, but if I'd had Bongo's role, I'd be awfully inclined to look in their direction tonight just to be safe.

Gonna think on this some more. I want to hear from Transportation, and Koah, and I feel like Envy, McDohl, angry beaver, and maybe some others are still keeping an awful low profile. I'll check in tonight or tomorrow with my thoughts and maybe a change in vote.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #148 on: March 25, 2011, 11:52:24 PM »

The fact that some people voted for Bongo is meaningless. There's no reasonable way the bads could have known he was the Seer on night 1. I suspect that he was, unfortunately, murdered simply on the basis of being first on the guest list, and the evildoers just got lucky. Bongo voting for Niku is similarly inadmissible, since the Seer doesn't get a Night 0 scry as far as I know.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #149 on: March 25, 2011, 11:58:35 PM »

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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #150 on: March 26, 2011, 12:08:01 AM »

I was just making assumptions based on my previous experiences in this crowd.

Situation 1: Innocent A starts a random vote against Innocent B, based on a die roll or the phase of the moon or whatever.  People pile on with little comment, and Innocent B hangs.  Day two, someone pipes up, "Hey, Innocent A wanted us to kill him!  Let's lynch his ass!"  And Innocent A hangs.

Situation 2: Innocent A starts an equally arbitrary vote against Werepire B.  People pile on with little comment, and Wolfpire B hangs.  Day two, everybody goes, "Well, I guess Innocent A is confirmed" (which is a bad assumption) and, what's worse, nobody had a history of defending or conversing with Wolfpire B.  We learn little.

Situation 2 is the best-case scenario, but you're not going to "gain information" like you so desire, you silly billies.

god damn it i hate to bring this up again but i feel unsatisfied

The HAMMER vote (killing vote) is the MOST important vote of ALL. Using that, we can determine most accurately in ENDGAME scenarios who is allied with whom. Do you see? That's why I didn't want to no-lynch. What do we know now? Nothing. Guess what? I investigated Bongo last night for Xg. I won, making all of yesterday USELESS to me other than the little thing I am on about with Koah and classic, whcih I'm only like 35% sure of anyway!

Done is done, but I am not changing my policy of disliking no-lynches based on this situation.

* G armcross harumph

It's interesting to note that 1: There was one death last night, meaning one of the teams probably got a new teammate, and 2: the PI is NOT greedy, of which I approve.


...huh. Looks like I missed most of page 7 while on my phone.

In review, Newbie's post 101 is the worst post ever! He's basically saying ALRIGHT SHUT UP STOP TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND JUST GO GO GO WHO CARES WHAT WE PICK which is what scum want above all. Fuck that. Anti inno points +2 but -1 because apparently most of the town agreed (though they could all have been hasty hasty scum making him look 'right' by agreeing). I realize a long day is painful. That doesn't make it bad for MY team.

Post 101 was Friend, not me. Gonna assume you meant 110 instead, which is pretty obvious now that I reread it because 110 more forgivingly matches up with the attitude you're ascribing to me.

I wish to contest that attitude. I very much cared who we picked, and was not impatient with the proceedings, but with your insistence that a lack of a lynch on day 1 meant we'd have no information. In fact, I feel your summary of the events of day 1 leaves out the obvious elephant in the room.

The following people voted for Bongo Bill yesterday:

A vote for the first voter is always a vote for a random voter. Bongo Bill.
Bongo Bill because he was the first to point at someone else.

You caught me. I'm the psychic fucking pre-seer, and I knew Bongo was the seer, and I voted him because I'm draculawolf, the wanking hitler jew.

Fuck you.

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Additionally, as we all know, Bongo voted for Niku himself, before choosing to vote for no one.

What? So? There was no night 0.

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I've always considered a wolf night-killing the same person he voted on during the day kind of an amateur move and obvious set-up, but I've also done exactly this myself because then I can argue that I'm being set up. Not saying we should vote for Guild or NexAdruin, but if I'd had Bongo's role, I'd be awfully inclined to look in their direction tonight just to be safe.

Who? What? Why?

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Gonna think on this some more. I want to hear from Transportation, and Koah, and I feel like Envy, McDohl, angry beaver, and maybe some others are still keeping an awful low profile. I'll check in tonight or tomorrow with my thoughts and maybe a change in vote.

Nice post, volf.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2011, 12:11:21 AM »

I was just making assumptions based on my previous experiences in this crowd.

Situation 1: Innocent A starts a random vote against Innocent B, based on a die roll or the phase of the moon or whatever.  People pile on with little comment, and Innocent B hangs.  Day two, someone pipes up, "Hey, Innocent A wanted us to kill him!  Let's lynch his ass!"  And Innocent A hangs.

I'll vouch for this happening frequently. It's not always on turn one, and it doesn't always happen, but a common line that I see is, "OK, we'll lynch Kazz today. But if he's not a wolfpire, we'll go after the person who told us to kill Kazz." It's common sense to investigate the people who lynch an influential innocent. A common iteration of this situation has Innocent A claiming to have "a hunch" or "a good feeling," which turns out to be just that -- and wrong.

I'm open to convincing. I'm fairly sure Kazz is at least not anti-town, if that helps. I can't claim to be an expert on how Things Go 'Round Here.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2011, 12:13:01 AM »

mmm, depending on what Newbie says, i might switch to him

he thinks i'm the PI

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2011, 12:16:55 AM »

The fact that some people voted for Bongo is meaningless. There's no reasonable way the bads could have known he was the Seer on night 1. I suspect that he was, unfortunately, murdered simply on the basis of being first on the guest list, and the evildoers just got lucky. Bongo voting for Niku is similarly inadmissible, since the Seer doesn't get a Night 0 scry as far as I know.

I don't think Bongo was picked "entirely" by chance; when I've been a wolf in games past, I suggested night 1 targets in order to focus the next day's discussion on the people whom the target had voted for as well as the people voting for the target. I wasn't trying to suggest that Bongo had some sort of privileged information about Niku: I was just reiterating what I'd said earlier... although, looking over what I just posted, if they really were trying to misdirect us toward those three, I guess I'd be playing right into their hands by expressing a desire to scry one of them tonight.

Maybe I should stop trying to play when I've just gotten home from party night. See you guys tomorrow.

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Oh, fuck.

I was just making assumptions based on my previous experiences in this crowd.

Situation 1: Innocent A starts a random vote against Innocent B, based on a die roll or the phase of the moon or whatever.  People pile on with little comment, and Innocent B hangs.  Day two, someone pipes up, "Hey, Innocent A wanted us to kill him!  Let's lynch his ass!"  And Innocent A hangs.

Situation 2: Innocent A starts an equally arbitrary vote against Werepire B.  People pile on with little comment, and Wolfpire B hangs.  Day two, everybody goes, "Well, I guess Innocent A is confirmed" (which is a bad assumption) and, what's worse, nobody had a history of defending or conversing with Wolfpire B.  We learn little.

Situation 2 is the best-case scenario, but you're not going to "gain information" like you so desire, you silly billies.

god damn it i hate to bring this up again but i feel unsatisfied

The HAMMER vote (killing vote) is the MOST important vote of ALL. Using that, we can determine most accurately in ENDGAME scenarios who is allied with whom. Do you see? That's why I didn't want to no-lynch. What do we know now? Nothing. Guess what? I investigated Bongo last night for Xg. I won, making all of yesterday USELESS to me other than the little thing I am on about with Koah and classic, whcih I'm only like 35% sure of anyway!

Done is done, but I am not changing my policy of disliking no-lynches based on this situation.

* G armcross harumph

It's interesting to note that 1: There was one death last night, meaning one of the teams probably got a new teammate, and 2: the PI is NOT greedy, of which I approve.


...huh. Looks like I missed most of page 7 while on my phone.

In review, Newbie's post 101 is the worst post ever! He's basically saying ALRIGHT SHUT UP STOP TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND JUST GO GO GO WHO CARES WHAT WE PICK which is what scum want above all. Fuck that. Anti inno points +2 but -1 because apparently most of the town agreed (though they could all have been hasty hasty scum making him look 'right' by agreeing). I realize a long day is painful. That doesn't make it bad for MY team.

Post 101 was Friend, not me. Gonna assume you meant 110 instead, which is pretty obvious now that I reread it because 110 more forgivingly matches up with the attitude you're ascribing to me.

I wish to contest that attitude. I very much cared who we picked, and was not impatient with the proceedings, but with your insistence that a lack of a lynch on day 1 meant we'd have no information. In fact, I feel your summary of the events of day 1 leaves out the obvious elephant in the room.

The following people voted for Bongo Bill yesterday:

A vote for the first voter is always a vote for a random voter. Bongo Bill.
Bongo Bill because he was the first to point at someone else.

You caught me. I'm the psychic fucking pre-seer, and I knew Bongo was the seer, and I voted him because I'm draculawolf, the wanking hitler jew.

Fuck you.

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Additionally, as we all know, Bongo voted for Niku himself, before choosing to vote for no one.

What? So? There was no night 0.

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I've always considered a wolf night-killing the same person he voted on during the day kind of an amateur move and obvious set-up, but I've also done exactly this myself because then I can argue that I'm being set up. Not saying we should vote for Guild or NexAdruin, but if I'd had Bongo's role, I'd be awfully inclined to look in their direction tonight just to be safe.

Who? What? Why?

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Gonna think on this some more. I want to hear from Transportation, and Koah, and I feel like Envy, McDohl, angry beaver, and maybe some others are still keeping an awful low profile. I'll check in tonight or tomorrow with my thoughts and maybe a change in vote.

Nice post, volf.
I was just making assumptions based on my previous experiences in this crowd.

Situation 1: Innocent A starts a random vote against Innocent B, based on a die roll or the phase of the moon or whatever.  People pile on with little comment, and Innocent B hangs.  Day two, someone pipes up, "Hey, Innocent A wanted us to kill him!  Let's lynch his ass!"  And Innocent A hangs.

I'll vouch for this happening frequently. It's not always on turn one, and it doesn't always happen, but a common line that I see is, "OK, we'll lynch Kazz today. But if he's not a wolfpire, we'll go after the person who told us to kill Kazz." It's common sense to investigate the people who lynch an influential innocent. A common iteration of this situation has Innocent A claiming to have "a hunch" or "a good feeling," which turns out to be just that -- and wrong.

I'm open to convincing. I'm fairly sure Kazz is at least not anti-town, if that helps. I can't claim to be an expert on how Things Go 'Round Here.
mmm, depending on what Newbie says, i might switch to him

he thinks i'm the PI

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

what
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2011, 12:22:31 AM »

As much as I'm tempted to throw up my hands and vote for Guild and just go to bed, I want to know what the hell his reasoning is, and I don't want to proceed until each of us understands the other's position. I'm removing my vote until I better understand Guild's logic and until I'm convinced I've made every reasonable effort to ensure he understands mine.

This is going to take some time, so. Post forthcoming.
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« Reply #155 on: March 26, 2011, 12:39:32 AM »

god damn it i hate to bring this up again but i feel unsatisfied

The HAMMER vote (killing vote) is the MOST important vote of ALL. Using that, we can determine most accurately in ENDGAME scenarios who is allied with whom. Do you see? That's why I didn't want to no-lynch. What do we know now? Nothing. Guess what? I investigated Bongo last night for Xg. I won, making all of yesterday USELESS to me other than the little thing I am on about with Koah and classic, whcih I'm only like 35% sure of anyway!

How do you figure? During VvW7, the day 1 hammer vote to lynch an innocent was cast by MarsDragon, an innocent. In VvW6, the day 1 hammer vote to lynch an innocent was cast by Kayma, another innocent. Both games were won by werewolves. In VvW5, Cerberus cast it, again to have an innocent killed, and he was also innocent, again resulting in werewolf victory. Do you see the pattern here.

Wanted to get that out there first. Responses to your responses to my statements coming next.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #156 on: March 26, 2011, 01:12:21 AM »

OK so.

The first post in the game was this:
1d20 says I vote for Niku. That damn die always did roll low.

Then Guild said:
A vote for the first voter is always a vote for a random voter. Bongo Bill.

This is where Newbie seems to be alleging Guild sprung his evil scheme into action: the second post in the game. Clearly this gambit was meticulously planned! Now, I wouldn't put it past Guild to concoct such a ploy, but I also don't think Guild, as a wolf, would have chosen his prey after only a single in-game post.

But then Newbie said something somewhat curious:
I am going to pay attention to what's going on here.

Now at the time I didn't think much of it. Just another introductory post. But in light of Newbie's recent comments I've had cause to reconsider these words. It sounds like he is saying that he is specifically looking at those first two posts because he thinks they will reveal hidden evidence that usually goes unnoticed. If it's really a wolf tactic that he's used in the past, which I have no reason to doubt, then surely he must be vigilant for it as an innocent!

Does this mean he is reading too much into innocuous statements because he's already convinced himself they are important? OR... is he setting up his own devious trick, planting the seed of the idea that these two throwaway posts are Vital Clues so that he can later harvest the sweet juicy fruit of discrediting Guild (or Bongo for that matter)?

False Dichotomy Alert: of course it's possible that Newbie is right on the money. IN FACT, if Guild's early vote for Bongo was so unimportant, then why did he allegedly hire the PI to investigate Bongo? Why didn't he investigate someone who ended up being more suspicious, like Classic, Koah or Newbie? Isn't it terribly convenient that the one person he claims to have had investigated just happened to immediately die and have their information revealed to everyone anyway? Why bring up the PI at all if the information was worthless?

You caught me. I'm the psychic fucking pre-seer, and I knew Bongo was the seer, and I voted him because I'm draculawolf, the wanking hitler jew.

Fuck you.

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Additionally, as we all know, Bongo voted for Niku himself, before choosing to vote for no one.

What? So? There was no night 0.

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I've always considered a wolf night-killing the same person he voted on during the day kind of an amateur move and obvious set-up, but I've also done exactly this myself because then I can argue that I'm being set up. Not saying we should vote for Guild or NexAdruin, but if I'd had Bongo's role, I'd be awfully inclined to look in their direction tonight just to be safe.

Who? What? Why?

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Gonna think on this some more. I want to hear from Transportation, and Koah, and I feel like Envy, McDohl, angry beaver, and maybe some others are still keeping an awful low profile. I'll check in tonight or tomorrow with my thoughts and maybe a change in vote.

Nice post, volf.

A little defensive there, wouldn't you say, Guild?
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2011, 01:19:02 AM »

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...huh. Looks like I missed most of page 7 while on my phone.

In review, Newbie's post 101 is the worst post ever! He's basically saying ALRIGHT SHUT UP STOP TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND JUST GO GO GO WHO CARES WHAT WE PICK which is what scum want above all. Fuck that. Anti inno points +2 but -1 because apparently most of the town agreed (though they could all have been hasty hasty scum making him look 'right' by agreeing). I realize a long day is painful. That doesn't make it bad for MY team.

Post 101 was Friend, not me. Gonna assume you meant 110 instead, which is pretty obvious now that I reread it because 110 more forgivingly matches up with the attitude you're ascribing to me.

I wish to contest that attitude. I very much cared who we picked, and was not impatient with the proceedings, but with your insistence that a lack of a lynch on day 1 meant we'd have no information. In fact, I feel your summary of the events of day 1 leaves out the obvious elephant in the room.

The following people voted for Bongo Bill yesterday:

A vote for the first voter is always a vote for a random voter. Bongo Bill.
Bongo Bill because he was the first to point at someone else.

You caught me. I'm the psychic fucking pre-seer, and I knew Bongo was the seer, and I voted him because I'm draculawolf, the wanking hitler jew.

Fuck you.

A ha. I just got this.

Guild, when you said my post was the worst post ever, you were summarizing the events of day 1 after Bongo Bill was already dead and revealed as the seer, and I was responding to that and requesting that we include information that you had left out. I was not attempting to express indignation that would dare vote for one of the most important people on the innocent team; I was attempting to justify my claim that we do have information from day 1's proceedings, even if it's incredibly suspect—which I would feel accurately describes the information we'd have gained even if we'd lynched someone.

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Additionally, as we all know, Bongo voted for Niku himself, before choosing to vote for no one.

What? So? There was no night 0.

Again: not claiming Bongo knew anything about Niku. I'm claiming that the wolves were aware that Bongo had voted for Niku when they selected him for killing, which may be significant because they want us to vote for Niku and he's innocent, or because Niku's brazen enough to kill at night someone who fingered him the day before, or it may not be significant at all.

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I've always considered a wolf night-killing the same person he voted on during the day kind of an amateur move and obvious set-up, but I've also done exactly this myself because then I can argue that I'm being set up. Not saying we should vote for Guild or NexAdruin, but if I'd had Bongo's role, I'd be awfully inclined to look in their direction tonight just to be safe.

Who? What? Why?

Yeah, my instincts mislead me here. It doesn't make any more sense to scry one of you three than it makes to scry anybody else, at this point.

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Gonna think on this some more. I want to hear from Transportation, and Koah, and I feel like Envy, McDohl, angry beaver, and maybe some others are still keeping an awful low profile. I'll check in tonight or tomorrow with my thoughts and maybe a change in vote.

Nice post, volf.

The thing about the blatant accusation is that there isn't really a correct response. If you protest too much, you look suspicious. If you just let it slide, then your inability to deny the obvious truth has finally cornered you. I will just say that you're in error, and that it's very possibly my own fault, and I don't think the fact that you're accusing me means that I should vote for you, although I can definitely picture you jumping on this opportunity as an evil player to castigate somebody that isn't on your team.

If I were going to vote for you, Guild, I would be voting for you for this right here:

Guess what? I investigated Bongo last night for Xg. I won, making all of yesterday USELESS to me other than the little thing I am on about with Koah and classic, whcih I'm only like 35% sure of anyway!

Done is done, but I am not changing my policy of disliking no-lynches based on this situation.

* G armcross harumph

It's interesting to note that 1: There was one death last night, meaning one of the teams probably got a new teammate, and 2: the PI is NOT greedy, of which I approve.

Jesus Christ. You're claiming that, not only did you win the PI's auction, but that you requested that he fucking investigate Bongo Bill? Not Koah, the guy you were voting for yesterday? Not me, Friend, or Kazz, for convincing you to swing your vote at the last second (since you were still convinced that a day 1 lynch was most appropriate)? This strikes me as both unlikely and convenient to your purposes if you're actually evil. The main reason I think it might be true is because it doesn't seem out-of-character for you to pick a scrying target apparently at random, and because lying about something that the PI would instantly recognize as a lie is so obviously a bad move.

I really want to hear your justification for why you thought you should hire the PI to investigate Bongo, though.

Finally:

mmm, depending on what Newbie says, i might switch to him

he thinks i'm the PI

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

This is the part that really confuses me. Why would you think that I think that you're the PI? This isn't some weird attempt to trick you into looking more suspicious; I'm earnestly truing to understand how you came to this conclusion and what possible benefit either one of us could gain from the actions we've taken were this actually the case.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2011, 01:36:05 AM »

If we learn nothing else from Bongo Bill's death, I hope we all learned the importance of people with special roles buying some wolfsbane every day they can.

We've got 20 players: ~6 or 7 monsters, 7 special innocents, ~6 or 7 vanilla innocents. Let the vanillas bid on items and services. There is absolutely no good reason for a special innocent to be killed by werewolves.
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Re: The Party of the Century
« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2011, 01:40:52 AM »

and because lying about something that the PI would instantly recognize as a lie is so obviously a bad move.

The PI isn't necessarily going to call him on it though. Sleuths value their anonymity.

Also if Guild is a vampire they might have already turned the PI and he is just gloating.
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