killing Turned is a good way for everyone to become Bad
Holy Fucking Shit i'm alive
If we learn nothing else from Bongo Bill's death, I hope we all learned the importance of people with special roles buying some wolfsbane every day they can.
We've got 20 players: ~6 or 7 monsters, 7 special innocents, ~6 or 7 vanilla innocents. Let the vanillas bid on items and services. There is absolutely no good reason for a special innocent to be killed by werewolves.
...This post is still bothering me. I realize he covered by saying, "It's probably the vampires who turned." But how so sure? There was no ambiguity in this post about it. It looks like a coverup. And I seem to recall someone saying it would be FUCK STUPID for Dracula to bite someone without first scrying them. Are you assuming the vampires are dumber than the werewolves? Why? Biased? Also, after reading the rules, it seems the vampwolves could have chosen to scry last night instead of turning or killing, so we really know NOTHING?!
Why can't I get you out of my head, Newbie. You're the only one not making sense to me. And I'm still really fucking mad that I found the seer and some scumbum killed him, hence my obsession over it. Can you give the logic to me one more time?
The vampires would most likely have turned him, not killed him.
Why are you letting him off the hook? Can't he speak for himself? I don't care how obvious the answer, maybe Transport's question interested others as well. Now, when I see people cooperating in this game I think about scum.
From what I know about playing wolfpirefia games, when someone says "So and so is probably not evil", it's a huge tell.
Hear hear! Two badstells by this pair, and Laser let Newbie off the hook twice on one page.
in 152 i tried to spook newbie, and no surprise! laser jumped in with a chainsaw, attacking me to keep poor newbie safe (theory, newbie gave kazz orders to say he htought i was the PI, wrong because kazz is just a vigilante, but newbie got defensive/defended, so i felt it was a success overall, as i will demonstrate)
in 162, kayma asks a GREAT question, and laser IMMEDIATLEY defends him:
If we learn nothing else from Bongo Bill's death, I hope we all learned the importance of people with special roles buying some wolfsbane every day they can.
We've got 20 players: ~6 or 7 monsters, 7 special innocents, ~6 or 7 vanilla innocents. Let the vanillas bid on items and services. There is absolutely no good reason for a special innocent to be killed by werewolves.
I'm confused. Wolfsbane would only protect against a night kill from the Wolf team. Do you know something that we do not about Bongo's death?
The vampires would most likely have turned him, not killed him.
man it was a QUICK derailment, maybe they were just PMing each other back and forth really fast, huh?
163 is me getting hot and bothered over newbie's defensiveness... am i onto something? maybe the PI post didn't work, but...
168 is still a good question i had:
As much as I'm tempted to throw up my hands and vote for Guild and just go to bed
That's a strange statement. Why are you so tempted?
173 was ignored completely, and i felt it shouldn't have been
Guild, when you said my post was the worst post ever, you were summarizing the events of day 1 after Bongo Bill was already dead and revealed as the seer, and I was responding to that and requesting that we include information that you had left out. I was not attempting to express indignation that would dare vote for one of the most important people on the innocent team; I was attempting to justify my claim that we do have information from day 1's proceedings, even if it's incredibly suspect—which I would feel accurately describes the information we'd have gained even if we'd lynched someone.
I had to read this about five times before I realized you aren't making sense. Please be INFINITELY more specific with your EVERYTHING and restate this WHOLE paragraph, especially the bit in blue which seems to be lacking grammar, and the bit in red which seems to be lacking context.
In 182 I lied and 'let them both off the hook' so I could observe more.
ok sorry laser i see what you meant now
kayma's right: it's a huge scum tell! but you have a good rationale, so forget i said it ... the alarms in my head were fucking BUZZING you have no idea
newbie, what do you think of my case on koah?
who do you think we should lynch?
Here's where I start really getting into Newbie.
In 195 I pointed out that Envy had made a tell, and it was A LEGITIMATE TELL unfortunately! he'd just oracle'd mcdohl and had werewolves on the brain, but envy is a sweet, sweet oracle and a good friend, and he should be protected tonight as best as possible.
Guild you could have just as easily paid to investigate bongo, to ensure your kill was worth it for the wolf side.
Whoo killed bongo?
shit that's right nvmnd damnit this game is confusing as hell to my scumdar
still though, so many assumptions when it's quite possible the wolves gained a teammate while the vamps killed bongo... VERY GODDAMN SUSPICIOUS ENVY AND NEWBIE
I think that pointing out this tell so many times has probably invalidated it for future use in this game, but not necessarily.
Sorry to have smeared your good names, Ohak and Classic, I never very strongly even suspected you after day 1. Koah i haven't suspected since forever, and i'm glad it was obvious to some of the townspeople how not malicious his absence has been. And even gladder for the rushjob wolfpire bandwagon it all inspired.
i'm fucking nervous about no deaths
Kazz and Envy would have made two excellent turns. Being a curse, I would not, and that's why I'm so fucking strong atm
Newbie has voted for: Me (inno), Classic (same time as Laser), Koah (whom I've decided is harmless)
Laser has voted for: Kazz (inno at the time), Classic (same time as Newbie), Koah (whom I've decided is harmless)
and to answer your question at last, newbie, the PI reference i made was because i thought you'd ordered kazz to contact me, and i was trying to spook you by telling you i knew... it didn't work because kazz was just a inno vigilante BUT it was worth a shot
please someone else come up with something now
transp, despite your tell, i'm dropping you from the case, mostly for not buying the koah/classic bandwagon for a moment - inspiring
tldr:
romo and zara need to post more
newbie and laser help each other frequently and both have made scum tells that others have pointed out as well
All that aside, somone I trusted yesterday to be inno 100% told me they suspected Smiler because of how he reacted to the McDohl voting by Envy.
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see you all 'tomorrow,' i'm not posting again today because long thread is already long enough, just votes from me for now
LaserBeing. I can be easily swayed onto Smiler, tbh.