Topic: The Party of the Century (Read 66959 times)

Zach · « **Reply #300 on:** March 30, 2011, 07:23:28 PM »

I have no hands, but I must vote. Kazz, what say you, ruffian?

Transportation · « **Reply #301 on:** March 30, 2011, 09:26:31 PM »

Is there a reason people keep saying Envy's the oracle and not a PI client? It seems more plausible than an oracle out himself like that.

Also Kazz until he says something.

Smiler · « **Reply #302 on:** March 30, 2011, 09:27:43 PM »

Envy wanted McDohl dead from day 1, which rules out the PI. The only way to have known would be an oracle scry.

Smiler · « **Reply #303 on:** March 30, 2011, 09:28:59 PM »

That is, of course, also ignoring that it could have been a hunch. It's still pretty accurate for a shot in the dark.

Classic · « **Reply #304 on:** March 30, 2011, 09:44:09 PM »

No. I think I'd much rather believe we don't have three of the most potent innocent roles public knowledge right now. That would be a much better place. Let's go to that place where also whatever warders we have are smart enough to coordinate who they're protecting from terrible doom. Please? Can we be there instead of fucked-ville?

Friend · « **Reply #305 on:** March 30, 2011, 09:54:47 PM »

Quote from: Classic on March 30, 2011, 09:44:09 PM

No. I think I'd much rather believe we don't have three of the most potent innocent roles public knowledge right now. That would be a much better place. Let's go to that place where also whatever warders we have are smart enough to coordinate who they're protecting from terrible doom. Please? Can we be there instead of fucked-ville?

1. Envy - Oracle
2. Kazz - Vigilante I guess? (I think he was probably lying about that or he would probably would have really killed Guild if he were vig)
3. Bongo?

Were you including the seer in your list as well or are you talking about someone else?

Classic · « **Reply #306 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:29:17 PM »

I was indeed including the seer.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #307 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:02:59 AM »

Quote from: Kayma on March 30, 2011, 06:19:04 PM

Quote from: Zaratustra on March 30, 2011, 10:43:44 AM
I'd also like to hear why Kazz didn't kill Guild.

This. I'm also curious what combination of wolfsbane, garlic, and tomfoolery has led to both Kazz and Envy still being alive. What the what.

Wolves get one turn a game, right? I'm pretty sure that using it will take the place of their regular night kill. We don't have any real way of knowing whether they tried to kill someone armed with wolfsbane, or whether they chose to turn instead, though. Remember that the order of operations is Items > Wolves > Vampires > Other, so Kazz knew that if he was going to be turned—and there was no force in the game that could have prevented him being turned, had the wolves and/or vampires decided to turn him—he might as well save his gun for the team he winds up on. Assuming he's actually the vigilante, this is the best explanation I can think of for why he wouldn't shoot.

Unfortunately, I think Envy may have tipped his hand by pointing at McDohl so consistently. When McDohl turned out to be a wolf, Envy's value as a recruit increased, presenting a dilemma to the vampires and wolves: the wolves can turn one of the two targets without consequence. If the vampires try to turn the same target, oops, Drac is dead. This presents a strong incentive for the wolves to use their turn, so I think that's probably what they did. If they did, the vampires obviously didn't choose to turn the same person, assuming they chose to turn somebody at all; they may have decided not to gamble with such high stakes and turned their attention elsewhere.

God, I hope the vampires didn't get the seer-sucking crystal ball. They wouldn't need to waste time scrying, for the most part: just turn whomever somebody else looked at the night before.

IN ANY EVENT, whether Kazz or Envy or both were turned, it is more important to me that we find Dracula or the Greater Werewolf and kill them ASAP. This is why I am (still) voting Guild: he's never been exonerated, and the chaos he's sown is reason enough to question his allegiance.

the asshole you hate · « **Reply #308 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:20:48 AM »

Quote from: Smiler on March 30, 2011, 09:27:43 PM

Envy wanted McDohl dead from day 1, which rules out the PI. The only way to have known would be an oracle scry.

hi this i'm not retarded thanks for screwing my cover up sorry i made it too obvious i was trying to get volves who don't read so well to be tricked thanks for ruining it all jerkface mc volf fuck

Quote from: jsnlxndrlv on March 31, 2011, 12:02:59 AM

Quote from: Kayma on March 30, 2011, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: Zaratustra on March 30, 2011, 10:43:44 AM
I'd also like to hear why Kazz didn't kill Guild.

This. I'm also curious what combination of wolfsbane, garlic, and tomfoolery has led to both Kazz and Envy still being alive. What the what.

Wolves get one turn a game, right? I'm pretty sure that using it will take the place of their regular night kill. We don't have any real way of knowing whether they tried to kill someone armed with wolfsbane, or whether they chose to turn instead, though. Remember that the order of operations is Items > Wolves > Vampires > Other, so Kazz knew that if he was going to be turned—and there was no force in the game that could have prevented him being turned, had the wolves and/or vampires decided to turn him—he might as well save his gun for the team he winds up on. Assuming he's actually the vigilante, this is the best explanation I can think of for why he wouldn't shoot.

Unfortunately, I think Envy may have tipped his hand by pointing at McDohl so consistently. When McDohl turned out to be a wolf, Envy's value as a recruit increased, presenting a dilemma to the vampires and wolves: the wolves can turn one of the two targets without consequence. If the vampires try to turn the same target, oops, Drac is dead. This presents a strong incentive for the wolves to use their turn, so I think that's probably what they did. If they did, the vampires obviously didn't choose to turn the same person, assuming they chose to turn somebody at all; they may have decided not to gamble with such high stakes and turned their attention elsewhere.

God, I hope the vampires didn't get the seer-sucking crystal ball. They wouldn't need to waste time scrying, for the most part: just turn whomever somebody else looked at the night before.

IN ANY EVENT, whether Kazz or Envy or both were turned, it is more important to me that we find Dracula or the Greater Werewolf and kill them ASAP. This is why I am (still) voting Guild: he's never been exonerated, and the chaos he's sown is reason enough to question his allegiance.

IN credible. Incredible scum tell right there. Bolded. Here you go, Kayma, wanna take this?

Friend · « **Reply #309 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:24:29 AM »

Quote from: jsnlxndrlv on March 31, 2011, 12:02:59 AM

Wolves get one turn a game, right? I'm pretty sure that using it will take the place of their regular night kill. We don't have any real way of knowing whether they tried to kill someone armed with wolfsbane, or whether they chose to turn instead, though. Remember that the order of operations is Items > Wolves > Vampires > Other, so Kazz knew that if he was going to be turned—and there was no force in the game that could have prevented him being turned, had the wolves and/or vampires decided to turn him—he might as well save his gun for the team he winds up on. Assuming he's actually the vigilante, this is the best explanation I can think of for why he wouldn't shoot.

But why would vamps/wolves turn Kazz if they were expecting him to kill Guild? There wouldn't really be any point in turning a vigilante whose already used his power, as far as I can see. Unless of course, Kazz made some sort of infernal pact with one of the other teams?
Hell, he might not even be the vigilante and just be full of shit. Anything's possible I guess.

the asshole you hate · « **Reply #310 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:28:34 AM »

i'll tell you what's what kazz i convinced him i'm inno and he didn't kill me then he got turned and now if he says that he'll die

if you don't believe me, i can't help you anymore

if you do, kill Newbie with me and let's get this game REALLY going

assuming nobody has a really strong reason to not Kill Smiler?

i have proven that i knew bongo was the powah

i know that newbie is the powah too

he's proven it to me two ways and three times (a suspicious association with laser, two scum tells) and i have pointed them all out

the asshole you hate · « **Reply #311 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:29:52 AM »

kazz and i exchanged about 1000 lines (most of them me to him) in #wolfpire about day 2/night 2 on day 2

the asshole you hate · « **Reply #312 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:31:37 AM »

if he doesn't post soon, i'm going to assume it's out of disdain for my plays

don't judge him, pay attention to what i said about killing Turned Volves.

Friend · « **Reply #313 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:33:32 AM »

Why'd you bring up Kayma? What the hell are you talking about?

the asshole you hate · « **Reply #314 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:42:08 AM »

kayma has demonstrated knowledge resonant w/my belief in how scumtells work

Friend · « **Reply #315 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:54:58 AM »

Oh, okay. But how do you know that Newbie is the "powah", as you put it, opposed to someone like Laserbeing?
I am assuming by "powah" you mean a major role like greater wolf, or you wouldn't have specified Newbie as such, since you have already asserted that both are Bad Guys™.

the asshole you hate · « **Reply #316 on:** March 31, 2011, 02:01:05 AM »

already said read thread

the asshole you hate · « **Reply #317 on:** March 31, 2011, 02:05:43 AM »

honestly it's only a pretty darn strong guess

but it is pretty darn strong... alarm bells

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #318 on:** March 31, 2011, 02:37:12 AM »

Quote from: G on March 31, 2011, 02:01:05 AM

already said read thread

Now, where have I heard this before?

Kayma · « **Reply #319 on:** March 31, 2011, 05:37:21 AM »

Quote from: Classic on March 30, 2011, 09:44:09 PM

No. I think I'd much rather believe we don't have three of the most potent innocent roles public knowledge right now. That would be a much better place. Let's go to that place where also whatever warders we have are smart enough to coordinate who they're protecting from terrible doom. Please? Can we be there instead of fucked-ville?

It's nice to want things.

Quote from: G on March 31, 2011, 01:20:48 AM

Quote from: jsnlxndrlv on March 31, 2011, 12:02:59 AM
God, I hope the vampires didn't get the seer-sucking crystal ball. They wouldn't need to waste time scrying, for the most part: just turn whomever somebody else looked at the night before.

IN ANY EVENT, whether Kazz or Envy or both were turned, it is more important to me that we find Dracula or the Greater Werewolf and kill them ASAP. This is why I am (still) voting Guild: he's never been exonerated, and the chaos he's sown is reason enough to question his allegiance.

IN credible. Incredible scum tell right there. Bolded. Here you go, Kayma, wanna take this?

Guildenstern, for all his flamboyant nonsense and risky theatrics, has some good instincts. In many scenarios, when someone says "Gosh, I sure hope this oddly specific scenario hasn't transpired!", well, maybe it has, maybe it hasn't, but it certainly casts the speaker into question.

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