Topic: The Nintendo Handheld Headache Machine (Read 10479 times)

Burrito Al Pastor · « **Reply #20 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:56:04 PM »

Maybe I'm late to the party on this, but have you guys seen what's in the TOS for the 3DS?

The tl;dr is that they own all photos and video taken with the 3DS, it will automatically connect to Nintendo and upload said photos and video, the system automatically updates itself, and if said updates find unauthorized software or hardware mods or peripherals, enjoy your brick.

I don't think even Professor Layton Versus Phoenix Wright can convince me to get one of these now.

Brentai · « **Reply #21 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:58:00 PM »

I think the Wii already does most of that.

Niku · « **Reply #22 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:58:34 PM »

tldr nintendo still wants to be apple

Thad · « **Reply #23 on:** May 17, 2011, 10:34:22 PM »

Quote from: Bal on June 15, 2010, 11:33:52 PM

Oh shut the fuck up, Thad. Nintendo isn't selling a homebrew device, they're selling the Nintendo 3DS, and it does whatever they want it to because it is their fucking product. If you want to buy something open platform try something that is even remotely intended to be an open platform. It's not like they're being underhanded about it and slipping secuROM in there when you didn't ask for it. If you buy a 3DS you are asking for what they are selling. If that bothers you, don't buy it.

Brentai · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2011, 12:02:27 AM »

We knew about the stupid autoupdate antipiracy thing for a long time. They didn't even try to hide that shit, so it's basically a consumer choice thing.

Burying stuff like "We own everything you ever do with this device based on curious legal grounds" and "This thing will track everything you do and upload data without your permission, even when turned off" way down in the fine print is kind of something else.

At this point it seems to be standard disclaimer for every fucking portable device in the world besides Blackberries though. Somehow this has got to be Batman's fault.

Bal · « **Reply #25 on:** May 18, 2011, 01:00:48 AM »

The picture and video shit is a bit shady, I cannot deny. Less shady if they'd talked about it before they launched it, obviously.

Niku · « **Reply #26 on:** June 07, 2011, 04:36:12 PM »

Just want to point out that if you've got a 3DS, their e3 game trailers are available for download from the store so you can actually, you know, see them in 3d.

Paper Mario looks so goddamn smooth.

Thad · « **Reply #27 on:** June 11, 2011, 09:07:39 AM »

Oh good, compulsory system upgrades that delay you playing a game you just bought.

Makes sense, though. How else are you going to play a 13-year-old game if you're not running the latest firmware?

And oh hey, Game Boy games on VC, which is neat but really I would rather see some NES and SNES games in there.

Not going to bother hoping for any N64 games, of course; if they want to release an N64 game for the 3DS they'll 3D it up and charge full price for it.

Or maybe they'll just be doing that with NES games too.

I gripe, but Super Mario 3D DOES look pretty rad. Don't know if I'll be buying a 3DS this year but if I can manage to stay employed I expect I'll probably buy one eventually.

(Though right now my Big Expensive Game Purchases are like to be a GTX 470 graphics card and mmmmmaybe a PSP.)

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #28 on:** June 11, 2011, 09:26:02 AM »

So, when I'm explaining this to my friends, does this work? "Imagine I'm selling you some colored pencils, but I claim ownership of anything you use them to make."

TA · « **Reply #29 on:** June 11, 2011, 09:45:54 AM »

Quote from: jsnlxndrlv on June 11, 2011, 09:26:02 AM

So, when I'm explaining this to my friends, does this work? "Imagine I'm selling you some colored pencils, but I claim ownership of anything you use them to make."

And if you try to draw on something other than the paper I'm also selling you, I'll break the pencils and give you no refund.

Brentai · « **Reply #30 on:** June 11, 2011, 09:48:40 AM »

And I automatically see everything you do with them. You can't stop me.

TA · « **Reply #31 on:** June 11, 2011, 11:15:16 AM »

And there's a slight chance the pencils will leap off the page and stab out your eyes. Can't know until you try, though!

Brentai · « **Reply #32 on:** June 11, 2011, 11:26:11 AM »

Okay I have no idea where you were going with that one.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #33 on:** June 11, 2011, 11:54:00 AM »

Oh hey, I found out today that my eyes can't handle 3D. I can see it okay, but it makes me kinda dizzy and screws up my concentration.

Rosencrantz · « **Reply #34 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:06:41 PM »

Quote from: Thad on June 11, 2011, 09:07:39 AM

Makes sense, though. How else are you going to play a 13-year-old game if you're not running the latest firmware?

That might be relevant if it was a direct port or on VC, but it's a remake with all new graphics and extra features.

Dooly · « **Reply #35 on:** June 11, 2011, 04:45:05 PM »

These forced firmware updates are most likely Nintendo's answer to the ridiculous ease of DS game piracy, so you're pretty much just going to have to put on sunglasses and deal with it.

Thad · « **Reply #36 on:** June 11, 2011, 06:56:16 PM »

I'd spam another page of "DRM DOESN'T FUCKING WORK" but Ziiro would just dekarma me for not making a detailed argument and then mysteriously not turn up with any rebuttals when I did.

This is an inconvenience for customers that's not going to stop pirates. Just like every other copy protection scheme in the history of ever. Hey Sony, how's removing OtherOS working out for you?

Norondor · « **Reply #37 on:** June 11, 2011, 07:29:40 PM »

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Bongo Bill · « **Reply #38 on:** July 27, 2011, 11:56:41 PM »

Well, this is interesting.

Summary: The price is dropping next month to $170. By way of they're-not-calling-it-an-apology to early adopters, anybody who connects to the eshop prior to August 11 will become an "Ambassador" and will be given 10 NES and 10 GBA Virtual Console games at no cost before their release to the general public before the end of the year.

Niku · « **Reply #39 on:** July 28, 2011, 06:17:54 AM »

Also supposedly the GBA games will never be given to anyone else. Which is good I guess because it looks like they will actually be good games, instead of Balloon Fight.

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