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[Friday]

<Joxam> if you guys who are playing don't mind me asking, what do I do, or have I done, in wolf games that makes people think the worst of me? I have literally never been anything but an innocent, but everyone always thinks I'm a bad guy.
<+BongoBill> As GM, it would be inappropriate for me to make any comment.
<Joxam> or is it just the 'first night jitters' everything is a crap shoot day one, lets point fingers so they don't get pointed at me stuff?

On the other hand, why me = fry me.

[Joxam]

Eh. I've played this game like three times and I honestly just want to know what I've been doing wrong.

[Friday]

wm=fm isn't 100%, of course, and you'll note I'm not even voting for you. Just sayin'.

[Classic]

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Jeez guys.

Yeah, I'd like to know what the hell Classic is talking about, too. let's not vote him off until Classic explains that, please.

[Joxam] was also really defensive about it in #finalfight a few minutes ago... unpromptedly, to make up a word.

I was not in #finalfight, but nobody denied this post, so unless guild made this up...

These things are related and all comments above are meritorious.

There is certainly a (good) chance that Guild is throwing shit on the wall and seeing if it'll stick, but I'll buy that Joxam being "defensive" by whatever batshit standards G has is an indicator of something. It's the closest thing I've got to a lead and if it's right, our worst-case is we prevent inno powers from being absorbed into bad teams.

Of course, all this is predicated on the bads being dumb enough to trust G's nonsense.

[Classic]

Or worse, G being right about anything.

[Friday]

our worst-case is we prevent inno powers from being absorbed into bad teams.

 

[NexAdruin]

That is a pretty bad worst-case, no matter how you try to word it.

[Joxam]

All I said was, "This wolf game is going to be a pain in the ass if everytime I wake up or get home from work people are bitching that I'm too quiet :D" but that was just me worrying about not being able to be active because of my work schedule. I can see how he would take that as me being defensive though... I guess.

[Classic]

I'm gonna say that all worst cases are pretty bad. If we want to have no chance of accomplishing anything, we can vote No Lynch.

I get what you're saying though, a mis-educated guess is worse than a blind guess. I'm just not sure there's a perceptible difference between the two at the moment. i.e., I have an equal amount of rationality going into this vote as I did for my previous vote for Zach, who I voted for because quiet, and because his handle begins with a Z.

[Friend]

I'd like to note that it's kind of a dick move to post this:

He was also really defensive about it in #finalfight a few minutes ago... unpromptedly, to make up a word.

then not post the offending text. You basically throw more fuel onto the Joxam bandwagon without actually showing anything. I'm assuming that

<Joxam> if you guys who are playing don't mind me asking, what do I do, or have I done, in wolf games that makes people think the worst of me? I have literally never been anything but an innocent, but everyone always thinks I'm a bad guy.
<+BongoBill> As GM, it would be inappropriate for me to make any comment.
<Joxam> or is it just the 'first night jitters' everything is a crap shoot day one, lets point fingers so they don't get pointed at me stuff?

is what he said, though, so now everyone else can determine whether or not Joxam is being suspicious. However, it's incredibly manipulative to accuse someone of acting "bad" then not providing proof. If we're going to kill Joxam we should be making an informed decision instead of voting because Guild said he was suspicious.

[Joxam]

All I said was, "This wolf game is going to be a pain in the ass if everytime I wake up or get home from work people are bitching that I'm too quiet :D" but that was just me worrying about not being able to be active because of my work schedule. I can see how he would take that as me being defensive though... I guess.

This post was in reference to what guild was talking about.

[Bleck]

wm=fm is not much of a good reason to vote for someone on its own. In fact, I think it's much more suspicious how G has presented his thoughts about Joxam (though not enough to swing a vote his way, of course).

There's not much evidence to be found here that isn't hearsay or interpretation. I still think that no lynch is our best option for now.

[Friday]

What I posted was text from #ff today. It isn't what Guild was talking about.

[the asshole you hate]

All I said was, "This wolf game is going to be a pain in the ass if everytime I wake up or get home from work people are bitching that I'm too quiet :D" but that was just me worrying about not being able to be active because of my work schedule. I can see how he would take that as me being defensive though... I guess.

This post was in reference to what guild was talking about.

Yeah that's it.

I can see why people are saying Smiler was defending him, but I was only asking for Laser's unspecified reason for saying Joxam was climbing a suspicion pole. I certainly can get onboard a Joxam lynch, but I'm always equally suspicious of unspecified suspicion. (Hi Friend) Get your facts straight, Joxam. And yes, it was defensive of you. You're a manbearpire though so I forgive you.

I dunno about Friday's wikipedia article, but I'm glad to know what her source is so I can study it and know how she plays better/what to avoid doing as a bad next game I'm one in.

[the asshole you hate]

Care to claim a role, Joxam? You're at lynch-2. We can pull this wagon off you in a quick hurry and put it somewhere else. And if you claim we might get a counter-claim. That would be super keen! Of course, claiming vanilla would only get you hung in my little book, but I'm just one voice. I can't make people do things.

Or can I? MUAHAHAHAHAHA

* G waves hands mysteriously

[Joxam]

Eh. I figure I'm dying also. So I'll go ahead and say I'm thief.

[the asshole you hate]

Is it possible for the thief to be Dracula or something? He's not the Seer or the Oracle or anything. I say off with his head!!

[Bongo Bill]

The only roles that can overlap with innocent roles are Turned (either Werewolf or Vampire, but nobody can have been turned as of Day 1) and Weretiger.

[the asshole you hate]

Thanks! Transportation.

[NexAdruin]

Alright. Transportation, do you have anything to say other than "I exist and can make posts?" I can't remember if you had some excuse like working or something, and you've been pretty silent.