Topic: Closed Werewolf Alpha - Beat/Lottel win! (Read 15364 times)

Nickasummers · « **Reply #40 on:** July 31, 2011, 07:12:28 PM »

Beat Bandit - I feel like he is innocent for various small reasons and haven't seen much to think he isn't yet
Lottel - Has been accused of bandwagoning. It could have been that, or it could have been legitimately thinking envy is bad. Other than that seems more or less inno.
Classic - Always impossible for me to read. I've tried. Waited a while before finally deciding kayma would be an acceptable lynch. it could be trying to hard to not look like he is bandwagoning, but again, i can never read him.
Caithness - Not vanilla. Has not contributed a whole lot to the discussion. Merely demonstrated that he had read the thread.
Kayma - Some avoidance, and confessed to it, but that is pretty much all there is against him. I dont TRUST him, but I don't feel like lynching him immediately either
Envy - His posts are consistent with each other, and it seems he is claiming to essentially be an inno with knowledge which is already shared. Could be the serial killer or a wolf instead. IMO he is currently the best choice to lynch, because he might be bad and he is almost definitely not someone important like a scrier, but I hope that we can get enough info to make a better decision.
NexAdruin - Started the ball rolling, which I feel is good, but he is somewhat quiet. However, I know that he is always somewhat quiet, so I don't feel that that is TOO suspicous.

Envy - 1 - NexAdruin
Lottel - 1 - Envy

Caithness · « **Reply #41 on:** July 31, 2011, 07:54:29 PM »

I feel like Envy is trustworthy. Mainly because if I were a wolf and trying to come up with a plausible role to front I'd never be able to come up with what he did. Of course, that means he could just be an exceptionally good liar, but I tend to assume otherwise because I'm really bad at lying.

It's true that his role seems to have performed its usefulness already, and we therefore wouldn't be as screwed if he died as we would be if a certain other player did, but I don't think that's a good enough reason to kill someone innocent. Especially since there are so few innocents in this game to begin with. If the distribution of badguys is exactly like Guild's last game, then only 7 of us are clean.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #42 on:** July 31, 2011, 08:59:40 PM »

I am a bit disheartened to see a confirmation that Envy only knows the roles, not the role holders. That was the only hope that his vote might have been founded in some way other than a knee jerk.

Other than that the only new information I have is to point out that people seem to be overlooking that the only reason we think Envy is giving us helpful information is because he told us he is. On top of that why not reveal the innocent role? It may in fact be something so unexpected that not knowing about it really would be a detriment to the wolves, but these are the facts:

Envy proclaimed there was a Serial Killer
Nick, myself and Lottel reacted negatively
Envy said that he had a power that told him about the SK and another role he wouldn't reveal, and voted defensively

Not to pick on Envy, but someone has to die day one. And so far he's done the worst job of defending his innocence in my book.

Envy · « **Reply #43 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:55:36 PM »

And not to call you a jerk, but killing a guaranteed inno sounds pretty wolfish. Rygaron If your not going to listen to reason and think logically. That hey this is totally not how Envy plays a damn wolf, and lol look now were going to have 3 innocent or 2/1 inno/wolf deaths. This game can potentially end tomarrow at the earliest.

Lottel · « **Reply #44 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:15:27 PM »

Envy, I really don't want to lose anyone when there are so few of players but two things.
1. You didn't say anything and then came out swinging with a fishy story and then started acting defensive under even the slightest scrutiny.
2. NOT TO BE A DICK BUT christ I do not understand any of that post after "Rygaron." What? I'd really like to know what's going with your thought process.

Nickasummers · « **Reply #45 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:39:18 PM »

Envy, you seem to be freaking out, which is not good for your case. If you really are innocent, and want to prove it, how about this:
The role you don't want reveal... if its a conventional role that we would all know about if we heard the name, the wolves are probably prepared for its existence anyway. If its an unconventional role that was made up just for this game, then they wont know what it does by name. If it is something new, tell us JUST the NAME of the role. The name wont help the wolves, but whoever has that role will be quite confident in your innocence, and one more person not voting for you could save your life. If you have a good reason not to do this, lets hear why, otherwise, announce it for your own sake.

Kayma · « **Reply #46 on:** July 31, 2011, 11:00:44 PM »

Rygaron is Beat Bandit, right? I left my Book of True Names at home.

Also, Envy, 'cause what

Envy · « **Reply #47 on:** July 31, 2011, 11:23:54 PM »

Quote from: Lottel on July 31, 2011, 10:15:27 PM

Envy, I really don't want to lose anyone when there are so few of players but two things.
1. You didn't say anything and then came out swinging with a fishy story and then started acting defensive under even the slightest scrutiny.
2. NOT TO BE A DICK BUT christ I do not understand any of that post after "Rygaron." What? I'd really like to know what's going with your thought process.

You do know it's EVO weekend right, and EVO weekend is like the superbowl of fighting games? Except it goes on for like 3 days?

Envy · « **Reply #48 on:** July 31, 2011, 11:26:18 PM »

Also it's the Seer. I didn't wanna let the wolves know that a seer was in play but oh well. Not like it's going to do anything but screw innos more.

Lottel · « **Reply #49 on:** July 31, 2011, 11:44:23 PM »

Quote from: Envy on July 31, 2011, 11:23:54 PM

Quote from: Lottel on July 31, 2011, 10:15:27 PM
Envy, I really don't want to lose anyone when there are so few of players but two things.
1. You didn't say anything and then came out swinging with a fishy story and then started acting defensive under even the slightest scrutiny.
2. NOT TO BE A DICK BUT christ I do not understand any of that post after "Rygaron." What? I'd really like to know what's going with your thought process.
You do know it's EVO weekend right, and EVO weekend is like the superbowl of fighting games? Except it goes on for like 3 days?

Oh that excuses and Rygaron for everyone to the and wolfs. Obviousl that this hey is 2/1 innocents and together we can. Shit.

ENVY

And I actually have reasons other than just the way you write your posts, but I think that's good enough right now.

Envy · « **Reply #50 on:** July 31, 2011, 11:55:52 PM »

Alright fellow innos lynch me, but if I'm right and I'm a innocent Lynch Rygaron and Lottel for being completely derp.

Nickasummers · « **Reply #51 on:** August 01, 2011, 12:05:26 AM »

Part of me still thinks that you are inno, but there are sirens going off in my head with every post you make. If you turn up innocent, it won't be in vain.... but... Envy

Caithness · « **Reply #52 on:** August 01, 2011, 06:47:52 AM »

Quote from: Lottel on July 31, 2011, 01:05:18 PM

The only games I've played with envy, he's been quietish and wolfy a good chunk of the time. But to be entirely fair, every time he talks in wolf people vote for him solely based on bad grammar/spelling.

The prophecy is coming true.

Classic · « **Reply #53 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:37:53 AM »

Instead of coming true, I think it was always true. A fixed fact in the continuum of time.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #54 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:50:33 AM »

Quote from: Envy on July 31, 2011, 09:55:36 PM

And not to call you a jerk, but killing a guaranteed inno sounds pretty wolfish.

Guaranteed... only by yourself.

Quote from: Envy on July 31, 2011, 09:55:36 PM

Rygaron

Wow, I had set up a plan for someone else coming to your defense, but an instant vote switch from the first person to doubt you to the second?

Quote from: Envy on July 31, 2011, 09:55:36 PM

That hey this is totally not how Envy plays a damn wolf, and lol look now were going to have 3 innocent or 2/1 inno/wolf deaths. This game can potentially end tomarrow at the earliest.

Again, the only reasoning you're giving us for you not being a wolf is because you totally promise you're not a wolf.

You really have to see this from my perspective. You're basically waving a knife around shouting "I'm not a psycho, and I'll fucking kill the next person that calls me one!"

Caithness · « **Reply #55 on:** August 01, 2011, 09:20:18 AM »

I think that Nickasummers is subtly trying to get us to vote for Envy without seeming too antagonistic toward him. He asked Envy to reveal what the other role he knew was and didn't even respond when that happened, but voted for him instead.

Guild · « **Reply #56 on:** August 01, 2011, 09:29:09 AM »

- Beat Bandit - alive - 1 (Envy)
- Lottel - alive
- Classic - alive
- Caithness - alive
- Kayma - alive - 1 (NexAdruin)
- Envy - still alive - 4 (Beat Bandit, Kayma, Lottel, Nickasummers)
- NexAdruin - alive
- Nickasummers - alive - 1 (Caithness)

With 8 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Nickasummers · « **Reply #57 on:** August 01, 2011, 09:39:55 AM »

I voted for him because hiding something as obvious as the seer is pointless. If the wolves were dumb enough not to assume a seer was among us we probably have nothing to worry about in this game. The way I see it he made up the whole told 2 roles thing and when called on to tell us the second role he played it safe an named a role that was likely to exist. That was the final nail in the coffin to me. Sorry I neglected to explain that before, It was late here and it slipped my mind.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #58 on:** August 01, 2011, 10:33:23 AM »

Nickasummers for pushing for role reveals that would help the wolves moreso than the innocents.

Nickasummers · « **Reply #59 on:** August 01, 2011, 10:43:26 AM »

unvote. My first instinct was that envy was innocent and even though everything he says makes him seem guilty to me, i still cant shake the feeling he is inno.

To those voting for me, your reasons are sound, even if your conclusion is wrong.

I feel wierd about lottel, and if i am to believe envy is innocent he did too. SO...

Lottel, when you said you had more reasons to suspect envy than you gave, what did you mean?

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