Topic: Closed Werewolf Epsilon - Serial Killer Lottel Wins (Read 18033 times)

Classic · « **Reply #100 on:** August 24, 2011, 05:56:13 PM »

I want to get this game moving. How about everyone puts forward their day 1 guesses, assuming two bads:

Me: Caithness; Kayma
Nicka: NexAdruin; Classic

Kayma - 1 - (NexAdruin)
Classic - 1 - (Caithness)
Caithness - 2 - (Lottel, Classic)
Nickasummers - 1 - (Kayma)

Caithness · « **Reply #101 on:** August 24, 2011, 06:03:25 PM »

Classic; Ardus

Lottel · « **Reply #102 on:** August 24, 2011, 06:32:53 PM »

Caithness, ???
I'm only assuming two bads, but I think three isn't out of the question.
As for the other guess, I'm saying Nickasummers for just stirring the pot but not saying anything.
Envy said something earlier that struck me as 'off' but I'm really trying to give him the benefit of the doubt since he always jumps down my throat.

That said, I'm still sticking to my guns. Caithness is still pretty wolfy but he's not going to die anytime soon. And the problem is, week long talk sessions on the first day are bad for innocents for many reasons. It gives plenty of time for wolves to get plans straight, to build a case for others and make themselves look innocent, and worst of all it turns people off from the game. Slow, boring, and sure to make the wolves win.
It's two weeks. Put up or shut up.

Envy · « **Reply #103 on:** August 24, 2011, 07:16:14 PM »

Two scenarios.
A.) The wolves have already voted and the inno's are holding off the vote.
B.) The wolves are waiting to vote till there is two votes left then jumping onto the band wagon.

Ardus · « **Reply #104 on:** August 24, 2011, 10:27:47 PM »

Caithness; Nickasummers

They seem like the most logical pair to me. Nick seemed very quick to say he wouldnt vote for Caith after his role-claim, protecting what may be his wolf buddy. Caith just seems to be incredibly suspicious and I dont believe his role claim. However, I am not sure that we can get 5 votes to vote Caith due to the risk of him being honest.

I dont like Classic, but he seems less wolfy to me than Caithness. I cant see them both being wolves with the way they have interacted this round.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #105 on:** August 24, 2011, 10:44:06 PM »

I don't have any suspicions. I've just started university and I've got more things on my mind than a wolf game that isn't going anywhere. I'm just gonna stick my vote on whomever, not because I'm suspicious of them, but because I want this fucking day to end. I changed my vote from Caithness because he was claiming to be super important, and on day 1 I'd rather lynch someone not claiming to be super important. Yes, this means a wolf could easily say "I'm the double seer and by tomorrow I'll have a complete role list" but so far that hasn't happened and if it does we can deal with it then.

What this means to all of you: If you get half a bandwagon going and can convince me that it might as well be the person you're lynching, I'll happily jump on. This probably makes me look wolfy, but that's just too bad.

Kayma · « **Reply #106 on:** August 24, 2011, 11:05:09 PM »

NexAdruin, then. Let's help him to go play beer pong!

NexAdruin · « **Reply #107 on:** August 24, 2011, 11:11:08 PM »

My role is pretty cool, and I'd rather not die (I just want to get out of this fucking day so we can have some more information), but whatever.

Guild · « **Reply #108 on:** August 25, 2011, 03:27:19 AM »

A few tried to argue, say we didn't strictly need to hold the hanging.

The Captain cocked his pistol and aimed it at the leader's head. "There be no rush for it, now. But neither will we be canceling." he said softly. There's a reason he's the only one with a gun on the ship.

We returned to our grisly duty sated from mutiny by terror, determination and Blackbeard's powder.

Nickasummers · « **Reply #109 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:09:10 AM »

Are we in agreement that this game really needs to move on? And are we in agreement that Caith is the only one who has acted wolfy so far? If so, I think it is time I announce my role. I wanted to hold off but I, like others, am starting to get bored by this. So here is the deal:
I am the Barber. Once per day, in chat, I can say "I shave X". If that person is a wolf, they become a townie! If he isn't a wolf, nothing happens. Unfortunately, no confirmation is given. Unless he tells us, we have no idea if he was a wolf or not. And unfortunately I have this terrible suspicion that one of the wolves (or perhaps all of them) have immunity to this. It seems too powerful without something to balance it out, and the risk of "confirming" a wolf as innocent is a pretty serious balance.
I shave Caithness
Caithness, if you were a wolf, tell us everything you know.
If Caithness wasn't or claims he wasn't a wolf, the only thing we can really safely do is trust him at least for today. If he doesn't hand us the name(s) of all other wolves, we will have to assume he was always innocent and use that information to narrow down who could be a wolf.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #110 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:53:01 AM »

Well... That's interesting. Caithness, what say you?

Caithness · « **Reply #111 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:02:08 AM »

Unfortunately, if that was a one shot power, you've wasted it. I was always innocent.

I agree that it sounds too good to be true, though. On the other hand, Guild did say that he felt bad about lying to Classic about his power last game, so it's probably not completely useless. Probably?

Nickasummers · « **Reply #112 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:31:20 AM »

It is once per day, and using it on you would provide us the most information, so I think it was well spent, assuming you aren't actually a special wolf that is immune or some other equally shitty situation.

Caithness · « **Reply #113 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:45:26 AM »

If you really can change a wolf to town, then the wolves also must be able to convert to balance it out. Otherwise, two or three lucky guesses would make everyone town, and everyone would win. And what kind of wolf game allows everyone to win?

Nickasummers · « **Reply #114 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:49:50 AM »

It is even more unbalanced than that. If you were to convert a wolf, they could literally just name the other wolf/wolves and the game might as well be over. There has to be something balancing it out.

Caithness · « **Reply #115 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:59:36 AM »

What if the wolves don't know who's on their team in this game? Or only the Alpha wolf does, and he can't be converted.

Kayma · « **Reply #116 on:** August 25, 2011, 11:51:28 AM »

There's only 8 of us. If that power hit a wolf, they'd have no reason not to rat out their compatriots, considering their win condition changes nicely. I'll bet there are three wolves who don't actually know each other, lest this game be semi broken.

Kayma · « **Reply #117 on:** August 25, 2011, 11:57:52 AM »

Hmm. Then again...

Quote from: Cap'n Blackbeard on August 18, 2011, 02:22:22 PM

Thread unlocked: Waited 4 hours to allow wolves to confer.

Maybe one or more of them do just have immunity?

Classic · « **Reply #118 on:** August 25, 2011, 12:04:46 PM »

So guys. I'm not sure I believe all of these roles claims, but I'm going to put forward this...
We can't quote our roles but my victory condition is vague. It implies that the threats to the town aren't just werewolves or maybe aren't even werewolves at all.

It's also possible that Guild is a great big pants-on-fire who gets off on nothing but lying and watching other people lie.

Anyway, updated list of bad pairs guesses:

Me: Caithness; Kayma
Nicka: NexAdruin; Classic
Caithness: Classic; Ardus
Lottel: Caithness, ??? (I don't think you understand how this game works lottel)
Ardrus: Caithness; Nickasummers
NexAdruin: I don't have real guesses from the rest; so I'll just be rude to them (voring for: Kayma)
Kayma: Possibly history's greatest monster; has a tiny dick (voting for: NexAdruin)
Envy: Busy; Fucking goats (voting for: No one)

I who they're currently voting for is also relevant, so I've added that info to those who haven't put forward their suspect pairs.

Nickasummers · « **Reply #119 on:** August 25, 2011, 12:10:15 PM »

Classic, my VERY FIRST thought when I read my role was "the bads arent wolves" but I dismissed that idea because that would make my role utterly worthless. But now I am wondering. If they arent wolves, he didnt technically lie to me, and that would make me our handicap.

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