Topic: Closed Werewolf Epsilon - Serial Killer Lottel Wins (Read 18030 times)

Caithness · « **Reply #120 on:** August 25, 2011, 12:16:27 PM »

If the wolves didn't know each other, it would make sense for them not to vote for anyone.

Alternatively, there could be two serial killers and no wolves. I was going to suggest three at first, but that would make for a very quick game indeed.

Kayma - 1 - (NexAdruin)
Classic - 1 - (Caithness)
Caithness - 2 - (Lottel, Classic)
NexAdruin - 1 - (Kayma)

NexAdruin · « **Reply #121 on:** August 25, 2011, 01:07:15 PM »

Quote from: Nickasummers on August 25, 2011, 12:10:15 PM

Classic, my VERY FIRST thought when I read my role was "the bads arent wolves" but I dismissed that idea because that would make my role utterly worthless. But now I am wondering. If they arent wolves, he didnt technically lie to me, and that would make me our handicap.

Last game I was looking for a serial killer that didn't exist.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #122 on:** August 25, 2011, 01:27:41 PM »

Quote from: Kayma on August 25, 2011, 11:51:28 AM

There's only 8 of us. If that power hit a wolf, they'd have no reason not to rat out their compatriots, considering their win condition changes nicely. I'll bet there are three wolves who don't actually know each other, lest this game be semi broken.

What if their win condition didn't change? What if it just made them unable to bite and talk to the other wolves?

Kayma · « **Reply #123 on:** August 25, 2011, 01:58:05 PM »

Then what good is it?

Hey, I shaved you. You're still a wolf if you were a wolf. Are you a wolf?

"Uhh... no?"

Well, fuck.

Lottel · « **Reply #124 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:04:13 PM »

I'm thinking the shave can probably still talk to their wolfy comrades but they count as innocent as far as voting goes? So they add to the innocents numbers while being on the wolves' team. That's how I'd do it.

Caithness · « **Reply #125 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:18:02 PM »

Quote from: Lottel on August 21, 2011, 08:38:21 PM

Something Envy said struck me as peculiar but I'm still trying to decide whether that's Envy being Envy or Envy being evil.

Quote from: Lottel on August 24, 2011, 06:32:53 PM

Envy said something earlier that struck me as 'off' but I'm really trying to give him the benefit of the doubt since he always jumps down my throat.

Have you come to a decision yet on whether you want to share with us what Envy said that you found suspicious?

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If Nickasummers' bolding of my name is not counted as voting for me in the next votecount, then I'm inclined to believe that he's not completely making his role up.

Lottel · « **Reply #126 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:32:34 PM »

Why not?

Quote from: Envy on August 19, 2011, 06:27:17 AM

I'm not a wolf neither do I have a super cool role.

Combined with the rare posting and the fact he hasn't said much in his posts, it strikes me as trying too hard not to be noticed.

Nickasummers · « **Reply #127 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:35:37 PM »

Nex and Lottel have good points about the potential meaning behind my role. I am inclined to think it is at least somewhat beneficial to us, but its technically possible caith was a wolf and is lying to us. So we know less than i thought we would.

Caithness · « **Reply #128 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:47:15 PM »

So if you shaved all of the wolves they'd no longer be able kill at night, but would would still be able to win by guiding the lynches? I dunno, sounds a bit too convoluted to me.

Nickasummers · « **Reply #129 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:49:14 PM »

No, if they win with wolves but count as innocents, shaving all of them would mean innocents win because the number of "wolves" would be 0

Classic · « **Reply #130 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:59:12 PM »

I wouldn't put it past Guild to encourage players to lie. It would be high-larity if turning for the alpha bad was a daytime ability activated by saying, "I SHAVE SO AND SO".

Nickasummers · « **Reply #131 on:** August 25, 2011, 03:01:06 PM »

I hadn't even thought of that and now I am really disappointed in the fact that I am innocent.

Guild · « **Reply #132 on:** August 25, 2011, 03:15:02 PM »

Votecount 5 - Day 1

Kayma - 1 - (NexAdruin)
Classic - 1 - (Caithness)
Caithness - 2 - (Lottel, Classic)
NexAdruin - 1 - (Kayma)

With 8 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Caithness · « **Reply #133 on:** August 25, 2011, 03:34:10 PM »

Or Nicka could be the Wolf Barber, with the real ability to turn his teammates into town, but absolutely no reason to want to do so. That would be pretty funny too.

Classic · « **Reply #134 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:57:59 PM »

These are all distinctly Guild possibilities.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #135 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:41:53 PM »

Quote from: Kayma on August 25, 2011, 01:58:05 PM

Then what good is it?

Hey, I shaved you. You're still a wolf if you were a wolf. Are you a wolf?

"Uhh... no?"

Well, fuck.

Consider the devil role of VvW. It is a role that benefits from eventually dying (although it's usually nice to put off the death). It's also a role that Guild has some experience playing. The shaving would turn a wolf into a non-scrying devil, basically.

Caithness · « **Reply #136 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:57:34 PM »

How does dying benefit the Devil? I just checked the rules for Vampires vs. Werewolves, and it looked like the Devil was just a seer who is also a wolf.

Classic · « **Reply #137 on:** August 25, 2011, 08:59:53 PM »

Caith and Nex had a reasonably quick back-and-forth about the whole thing. Which maybe gave Guild time to confer with Caith about the role change.

Alternately, Caith could have stayed in lying mode.
Or...
They're in totes cahoots.

I'm no longer confident about my guesses in any case.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #138 on:** August 25, 2011, 09:29:58 PM »

Quote from: Caithness on August 25, 2011, 08:57:34 PM

How does dying benefit the Devil? I just checked the rules for Vampires vs. Werewolves, and it looked like the Devil was just a seer who is also a wolf.

He's not a wolf, though. He's a human who has the wolves' win condition. In fact, at the start of the game, the devil doesn't even know who his teammates are.

Kayma · « **Reply #139 on:** August 26, 2011, 01:17:13 PM »

They only benefit by dying if hey "count" as an innocent... as is, I believe, the case with the Devil. So yeah, ok, I get that.

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