Topic: The Dwayne McDuffie Memorial DC Animation Thread (Read 16498 times)

Thad · « **Reply #140 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:35:54 AM »

...crap, fridge logic:

We are meant to reasonably assume that [spoiler]Gar becomes a green-skinned shape-shifter because he received a blood transfusion from a green-skinned shape-shifter[/spoiler]. Now, that's elegant as hell...except that, well, she actually isn't, is she?

Bal · « **Reply #141 on:** March 19, 2012, 09:15:07 AM »

I'm pretty sure that Gar is a total red herring. She was able to shape shift her blood sufficiently to make the transfusion successful. Given how precise that has to be, I don't think there are super powers in store for him. Being Queen Bee's hostage maybe, but I think the thing with Gar was meant to be a purely good and successful act by MM, and the rest of the episode is the tainted part.

Thad · « **Reply #142 on:** March 19, 2012, 09:24:35 AM »

I don't buy that for a minute. You don't bring in a sequence of events like that just to fuck with the audience (subset: viewers who recognize the name "Garfield Logan"); it's going somewhere, and the "where" is pretty obvious.

Bal · « **Reply #143 on:** March 19, 2012, 10:16:18 AM »

I actually had to look that up. I guess shapeshifter blood donation to a kid that lives in an animal preserve is just too good to pass up.

Thad · « **Reply #144 on:** March 19, 2012, 10:53:08 AM »

Ah, see? We each learned something.

Another afterthought:

Quote from: Thad on March 19, 2012, 07:19:16 AM

That was something of a pleasant surprise -- that Weisman's really been playing a long game here, and that the ditz act and immediate falling for Conner were more than they appeared.

It still doesn't really excuse it, IMO -- I think he potentially put off a lot of people in those early episodes, and we had no indication until now that there was something deeper going on. But at least I feel better about it in light of the reveal.

Since I think about it, it's entirely possible that that characterization was foisted on Weisman by someone higher up the chain and he rationalized it after the fact. Those first half-dozen episodes look like a completely different, vastly inferior TV series.

In which case, I think he did a great damn job with the hand he was dealt.

Lottel · « **Reply #145 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:16:18 PM »

I just watched this episode and I noticed Gar's eyes were blue [spoiler]before the transfusion and neon green afterwards. Oh yeah. We've got a Beast Boy on the way.[/spoiler]

Edit: Spoilered just in case

Thad · « **Reply #146 on:** March 25, 2012, 01:09:04 PM »

YOUNG JUSTICE DADDY ISSUES ROLL CALL

Superboy: Supervillain father
Aqualad: Supervillain father
Miss Martian: Evil alien father
Artemis: Supervillain sister
Zatanna: Recently-possessed father
Robin: HIS PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEEEEEAD
Kid Flash: totally normal, wholesome family life

Lottel · « **Reply #147 on:** March 25, 2012, 02:15:15 PM »

Isn't Artemis [spoiler]the daughter of the Sportsmaster?[/spoiler]

Thad · « **Reply #148 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:00:54 PM »

Dunno, wouldn't surprise me.

'Cept he doesn't seem to fit the theme.

Lottel · « **Reply #149 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:46:09 PM »

The bad parent theme you were going with or the arrow theme? Because [spoiler]~~archery's a sport~~ Sportsmaster's been known to shoot a few arrows at the Green Arrow.[/spoiler] and I can't believe a man priding himself at being the best as well as being a bad guy could be a good father.

Thad · « **Reply #150 on:** April 02, 2012, 08:40:52 PM »

...yes, that was Josh Keaton.

Thad · « **Reply #151 on:** April 04, 2012, 07:32:30 PM »

So okay. Boxes the last few eps of GL have ticked:

Planet blows up
Space prison
Distress signal
Arena

And of course the whole show is written around the space opera tropes of "lost in space", "reluctant alliance with enemy", and "AI".

Plenty more boxes to check, but they've sure started out with the obvious ones.

Bal · « **Reply #152 on:** April 07, 2012, 06:01:01 PM »

Was there a new GL this morning? My DVR only recorded YJ. Good episode. I like that even badguy-of-the-week episodes like this are building the overall story, particularly the character arcs. Superboy's thing is pretty clearly going to come to a head sooner rather than later. Artemis as well. I think the mole will be the season finale, and probably won't be who we might guess. [spoiler]Personally I hope it's Red Arrow, having gone full heel Arsenal mode, but that's pretty unlikely given how he just joined the team, though he has been spying on them a bit. Conversely, I hope Artemis overcomes her demons instead of pulling a Terra[/spoiler].

Roger · « **Reply #153 on:** April 07, 2012, 06:38:15 PM »

I liked the Animalman short.

Lottel · « **Reply #154 on:** April 07, 2012, 07:58:52 PM »

Quote from: Bal on April 07, 2012, 06:01:01 PM

I think the mole will be the season finale, and probably won't be who we might guess. [spoiler]Personally I hope it's Red Arrow, having gone full heel Arsenal mode, but that's pretty unlikely given how he just joined the team, though he has been spying on them a bit. Conversely, I hope Artemis overcomes her demons instead of pulling a Terra[/spoiler].

You know, I glanced through the whole thread and saw I never mentioned that I think the traitor is [spoiler]probably just Superboy, unknowingly. It'll let them talk about his other dad and the sooner they get that out of the way, the sooner they can get an entire season of him dealing with that out of the way.[/spoiler]
It'd be really interesting if they chose someone else and I'd like to see how they'd do it, but I assume that's just how they'll do it. It's a pretty simple way of dealing with multiple issues at once and has been touched upon a few times in the comics.

Büge · « **Reply #155 on:** April 09, 2012, 06:31:24 PM »

Super Best Friends Forever (Short #2)

Thad · « **Reply #156 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:39:59 AM »

Yeah, I'm with Lottel on the mole.

Nice use of [spoiler]Parasite[/spoiler] and some good guest stars too.

I do find myself thinking, in the end, "Nice going. Now [spoiler]Haly[/spoiler] knows who Batman is." But really, if you start picking at suspension-of-disbelief on people figuring out who Batman is, it slippery-slopes in a hurry. (I always loved, in Year One, that Jim figures out who he is pretty much immediately and decides to play dumb.)

Rico · « **Reply #157 on:** April 10, 2012, 11:18:19 AM »

Quote from: Thad on April 10, 2012, 09:39:59 AM

Yeah, I'm with Lottel on the mole.

Nice use of [spoiler]Parasite[/spoiler] and some good guest stars too.

I do find myself thinking, in the end, "Nice going. Now [spoiler]Haly[/spoiler] knows who Batman is." But really, if you start picking at suspension-of-disbelief on people figuring out who Batman is, it slippery-slopes in a hurry. (I always loved, in Year One, that Jim figures out who he is pretty much immediately and decides to play dumb.)

There's also that great scene in No Man's Land where Batman is apologizing to Gordon for not being there all along, takes off his cowl to prove to Gordon that they're friends and he trusts him, and Gordon turns his back and says, basically, "I know but I can't have it be certain like that."

Thad · « **Reply #158 on:** April 10, 2012, 11:29:19 AM »

Sure, or the ending of Over the Edge.

Thad · « **Reply #159 on:** April 10, 2012, 05:00:04 PM »

Backin' up:

Quote from: Bal on April 07, 2012, 06:01:01 PM

Was there a new GL this morning?

Yeah. It was okay I guess, though it held few surprises -- anyone who knows GL will know who the new Lantern is. If you can avoid even looking at the title before you watch it, well, it might take you about ten minutes to work it out.

There IS one character who pops up unexpectedly.

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