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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #80 on: November 03, 2011, 12:21:21 AM »

Money Is Power, BLood of the Martyr, near max tears, loadsa bling, and then a fucking bug flies in my face during Caves 2 and screws eveyrthing up
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #81 on: November 03, 2011, 09:49:25 PM »

Is there anything worse than a No +Damage Run?

*kills self rather than try to whittle down Monstro 2 over the course of 15 minutes*
this has been every run i've done so far
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #82 on: November 04, 2011, 08:01:43 AM »

You can still use bombs, I guess?

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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #83 on: November 04, 2011, 10:13:09 AM »

That's not justice, that's judgement. Justice summons you one of every standard item (A penny, a heart (or half heart?) a bomb and a key.) Anyways since I got 25 wins in the beta, I know an absurd amount about the game.

The Devil puts you into max damage mode.
Lovers summons two hears
Temperence summons a heart-to-money machine
Wheel of Fortune summons a roulette wheel
The Magician gives you homing shots
Strength makes you large and gives you +1 max health
Hanged man makes you float
The World shows you the whole map
The Hermit takes you to the shop
Hierophant gives you two blue hearts
The Fool teleports you somewhere random
The Chariot puts you in MAGICAL UNICORN MODE (it's like a star in mario)

Any thing that intrinscially gives you a new ability or life goes away when you leave (notably with devil, strength, hangman), but things that are made are obviously permenant. I think theres one that gives you a devil deal but I can't remember the name.

So other advice

* Don't fuck with pills unless you have a Lucky Foot or a PHD. Those keep you from incurring stat damage from pills. The only other time you'd use a pill is in an emergency. Cain gets a Lucky foot from the get go, meaning if you play him you can suck down every pill relatively. You can still get 'negative' effects, like pooping bombs, but nothing permanent. So unless it's an emergency pill, be sure to use them in a safe place.

* Clear out the entire level in the first for levels. YOu want all the keys and bombs you can get and they're easy stages. Clearing out levels 5 and 6 can be worthwhile, but a bit more risky and keys aren't terribly important in levels 7 and  8. Bombs are a great way to kill mom's heart though, so are worth collecting.

* Secret rooms are a great source of money and extra items and finding them can up your win percentage. As far as I've seen, secret rooms ALWAYS connect to at least 2 rooms and tend to prefer areas with even more connections. If you have extra bombs you can hunt them out safely and systematically. Well, until the later chapters where their are far too many rooms.

* Conserve keys. Generally early on I don't bother going into a shop unless I have either 15 coins (cost of a major item), or a lot of extra keys and 7 coins (the price of an onsale major item).

* It's almost always worth bombing to get to a chest, though opening a locked chest takes more consideration. You want to have at least a key to get the levels item, but a chest is probably more valuable than going into a shop (and often will give you extra keys anyways).

* Beggers are awesome. They have better payoff rates than slots and tend to give you a major item within roughly 10 coins. The items tend ot be maps, compasses, batteries (!!!) or life.

* Compasses and maps make the last two levels much easier. Since they have no items or shops (usually) it's best to just to go straight to the bosses.

* Some rocks are discolored. Bombing them is like opening a chest, only its bias toward blue hearts, bombs and keys. Occasionally it drops a rock, which ups you damage and uppded damage is TOTALLY SWEET.

* Since there's little to use money on in the last two levels, gambling away all your money before the first mom fight is great if you can do it.

* At some point you're going to need to choose between secondary items. I'll give some advice and point out some exceptional items

Unicorn horn: Makes you invulnerable temporarily and makes you do damage by running into enemies. WITH YOUR HORN. Can destroy whole rooms do big chunks of damage to bosses for free. Takes a lot to recharge though and should not be taken over faster, but still great items

Book of Beliel: Pound for pound the best use item in my opinion. Puts you into max damage mode for the duration of an encounter and charges fast.

Book of Shadows: Makes you invulnerable for about 10 seconds and recharges quickly.

Tammy's head: Shoots high damaged shots in all directions. Not very powerful, but recharges on every screen, so you can use it on EVERY encounter.

There are others too, but most of them are unlocks for beating the game several times (Nail, Book of Revelations, Dice...).

Item's like Bob's Rotten Head and Doctor's Remote aren't particularly great, but can be used to hunt for secret rooms without wasting bombs. Every time it fills up, just go test a wall and charge it again.

In terms of character strength, Cain is probably the best until you you get the dice for Isaac (Which is hard). He can suck down pills, does a bunch of damage is fast and only loses one max health and a bit of range. He also gets better drops on average. Isaac (without dice) and Maggie are about equal (though Maggie is probably best for beginning players) and Judas is fun but hard to consistently win with if the game doesn't give you a lo of life-ups.

Any questions?

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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #84 on: November 04, 2011, 10:53:38 AM »

I'd suggest typing in full, legible sentences. I have no idea what your last four posts even mean. Worry less about conciseness and more about overall meaning, which your current posting trend entirely lacks.
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #85 on: November 04, 2011, 11:56:31 AM »

Don't mind the bot. He's banned now.
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2011, 12:16:54 PM »

Cleared Sheol with every character and my ??? Clear was a Super Meat Boy run! 5 items between me and Golden God.
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #87 on: November 11, 2011, 03:06:20 AM »

So is this actually worth getting? Because the last cheap roguelike I bought on steam was Dungeons of Dredmor, and uh.

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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #88 on: November 11, 2011, 03:15:41 AM »

Don't mind the bot. He's banned now.

You might want to remove his URL that he edited back in.

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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #89 on: November 11, 2011, 07:31:34 AM »

Oh wow. They are learning.
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #90 on: November 11, 2011, 10:34:15 AM »

So is this actually worth getting? Because the last cheap roguelike I bought on steam was Dungeons of Dredmor, and uh.

 :disappoint:

It has a demo but if you can't handle spending $5 on a whim on Steam then maybe video gaming has gotten too hard for you old man.
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #91 on: November 11, 2011, 05:39:40 PM »

y... you didn't like dungeons of dredmor? :(
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2011, 07:56:48 PM »

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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2011, 02:28:08 PM »

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First, he addressed the community to see what their thoughts were on paid DLC for the Binding of Isaac.

    “if we were to spend another 2-3 months on a HUGE isaac update next year that would add 2 times more gameplay, would you pay 3 bucks for it?”

Feedback must have been positive because McMillen replied with the following:

    “Ok, ill do what i can to do a mega paid DLC Isaac update next year, but first i gotta do this lil Team Meat game we are starting this month.”
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #94 on: December 29, 2011, 10:16:32 AM »

This is on Steam sale today. WHO WANTS A FREE COPY
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2011, 03:25:55 PM »

Sure.  MORE STEAM GAMES FOR THE STEAM GAME GOD!
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2012, 12:57:11 AM »

Wow, that was the most cruise control Satan run yet.

14 hearts, 39 soul hearts upon entering Satan's chamber.

I had relic, 9-volt, battery, pills (of which two were health up and balls of steel).

I ended up spawning a pill in Satan's room and kept accidentally picking it up, trading it with my other pill and forcing me to stand still and take Satan hits.  Eventually I just ate the pill (explosive diarrhea) and stood there taking more hits.

Satan hits: 14
Bombs on self afterward: 6

Still displaying full health.

Walk out of room, walk on spikes 10x before displaying 11 health remaining.



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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #97 on: April 08, 2012, 10:40:11 AM »

Quote from: @EdmundMcMillen
we are doing what we can to get the expansion out by the end of april, we should be over 500k units by then :)
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expansion detail update, 10+ bosses, 100+ items, 20+ enemies, 4 chapters, 1 character, 6 rooms, 40+ unlocks, 4+ new tracks, new final ending
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there will also be 7+ new "random happenings" 5 new ultra rare pickups, 5 new cards, 4 new pills and other things i cant remember...
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oh shit i forgot to mention the 10 new challenges and buttload of new achievements!
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what im getting at is there is a lot of extra shit in this damn thing. we have been working on it longer than the actual game...
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for those who dont know the expansion will be $3 and its called Wrath of the Lamb. should be out end of april if all goes well in testing
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #98 on: April 10, 2012, 07:20:38 PM »

Binding of Isaac is the best game. 
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Re: The Binding of Isaac
« Reply #99 on: May 28, 2012, 02:55:57 PM »

Welp, Wrath of the Lamb is out and basically amazing.

(Wait, didn't I say I wouldn't play this game? Well yeah I did, and then I changed my mind and got all the items and all the achievements. Figured my friend would probably laugh at me for depriving myself on his account.)

I'm kind of annoyed at how much of the new stuff I have no idea what it does (especially with trinkets in general) but experience will remedy to that I suppose. And there are tons of immediately satisfying new wrinkles. In terms of difficulty I did die on the first floor on my first attempt, and on the third on my second attempt, but I beat the (first?) alternate final boss on my third attempt. The game doesn't feel that much meaner, it's just a question of learning the new stuff. That said, it's not meaner, but in many ways it's more cruel; it seems like there are several new ways to make difficult decisions and take costly risks (like with the [spoiler]biting doors[/spoiler], the [spoiler]sacrifice spike rooms[/spoiler], and the [spoiler]boss arenas[/spoiler]. However, given that this sort of thing has pretty much always been at the core of the game's strategy, this is an excellent and very welcome change. Favorite new items so far? The [spoiler]3 dollar bill that randomizes your tears in every new room.[/spoiler] I'm pretty sure I had a goofy smile stuck to my face the whole time I had it.
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