Topic: Voted Out (Read 5883 times)

Shinra · « **on:** May 27, 2008, 07:57:21 PM »

I'd give this a snappy title, but 'kindergarten teacher has class vote out an autistic classmate and does not get fired for it' is all I can come up with.

Brentai · « **Reply #1 on:** May 27, 2008, 08:07:23 PM »

The next Eric Harris, ladies and gentlemen.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #2 on:** May 27, 2008, 10:20:10 PM »

... Why would this woman think that that was in any way, shape or form not the most horrible idea ever?

Friday · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:30:10 AM »

I had a teacher do the exact same thing once to a kid. Only it was in 6th grade.

He probably did have some kind of mental thing. Didn't stop him from being the most disgustingly annoying kid I've ever met.

Shrug. I don't take news articles at face value, either. And something about how it was written makes me think it's not entirely accurate.

Or are we more sympathetic to the kid because he's 5 instead of 12?

Cannon · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:40:35 AM »

I don't much understand what sympathy has to do with it, Friday. Sticks and stones break retard bones, and words will always hurt them.

Friday · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:50:14 AM »

I am not special

I am not special

I am not special

I am not special

I am not special

I am not special

Arc · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:09:43 AM »

That is... Exactly what the child was saying (over and over) later that night, after it happened.

The state attorney's office also judged that this case "did not meet the criteria for emotional abuse", meaning that Florida has once again made a mockery of democracy and justice in record time.

sei · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2008, 03:31:40 AM »

Quote from: Friday on May 28, 2008, 12:50:14 AM

I am not special

I am not special

I am not special

I am not special

I am not special

I am not special

Well, just so long as he can still be a beautiful and unique snowflake...

Royal☭ · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2008, 06:13:24 AM »

Quote from: Arc on May 28, 2008, 01:09:43 AM

That is... Exactly what the child was saying (over and over) later that night, after it happened.

The state attorney's office also judged that this case "did not meet the criteria for emotional abuse", meaning that Florida has once again made a mockery of democracy and justice in record time.

How exactly were you expecting a state full of old retirees to treat a little kid?

Arc · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2008, 07:05:06 AM »

In that context, I would have expected them to shove a bowl of Ricola into his face, dodder on about their grandparents, and then demand some embrace of affection.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2008, 08:08:25 AM »

Instead of just demanding he get off their yard?

Brentai · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2008, 10:23:58 AM »

Quote from: Friday on May 28, 2008, 12:30:10 AM

I had a teacher do the exact same thing once to a kid. Only it was in 6th grade.

He probably did have some kind of mental thing. Didn't stop him from being the most disgustingly annoying kid I've ever met.

Shrug. I don't take news articles at face value, either. And something about how it was written makes me think it's not entirely accurate.

Or are we more sympathetic to the kid because he's 5 instead of 12?

No, I'd be just as pissed if it were the kid you were talking about. Having a person in authority confirm with irrefutable evidence that everybody does indeed hate you is going to lead to some pretty terrifying thought patterns, especially if the kid is already pretty unbalanced. It's a great way to convince somebody that other people's feelings aren't something to concern yourself about.

Guild · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2008, 11:48:06 AM »

DAH!

1) Kids don't know squat about the world and how it works.
2) Teachers are people we pay to lead our kids down paths that aren't going to screw them up.
3) My teacher once segregated me for talking too much in an art class and the resultant feud between me (backed by the class wanting me around) and the teacher (backed by the logic of "nobody wants to hear you talk mister" even though they did) probably contributed to the fact that I grew up thinking all authority was inherently corrupt and selfish.
4) I really like apple pie.

Friday · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:45:43 PM »

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No, I'd be just as pissed if it were the kid you were talking about. Having a person in authority confirm with irrefutable evidence that everybody does indeed hate you is going to lead to some pretty terrifying thought patterns, especially if the kid is already pretty unbalanced. It's a great way to convince somebody that other people's feelings aren't something to concern yourself about.

So we're ignoring the fact that the kid was (and by all means most probably still is) a complete shithead.

My sympathies don't extend to people who are "anti-social" and have "a form of high functioning fuckwhat". Poor them, being dicks all the time.

Guild · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:01:58 PM »

Quote from: Friday on May 28, 2008, 12:45:43 PM

My sympathies don't extend to people who are "anti-social" and have "a form of high functioning fuckwhat". Poor them, being dicks all the time.

Wow.

Friday · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:08:34 PM »

This shit reminds me of Brian.

Brian was a kid in my kindergarten class who weighed about twice as much as everyone else and had a mean streak a mile wide.

He used to beat people up. Me in particular. Dunno why, exactly, maybe he could see that I was a haughty little pacifist who actually believed in the "they're just jealous of how smart you are" line fed to her, and it made him angry.

I remember taking a ball once, from the bin. The last one. This kid comes up to me about 30 seconds later on the blacktop, and without a word, falls on me. I mean literally. He then proceeds to punch me several times while laying on me before laughing, taking the ball away, and wandering off.

I told my mother finally, and we had a conference about it. His parents came in and everyone sat down with teacher and told me Brian had a problem with his brain that made him act that way and it wasn't his fault. I was punished for saying that I "hated him" and was denied first recess for a month. My mother told me I had to be nice to him because he was on medication for his condition. I guess he was told that too because he proceeded to tattle on me whenever I wasn't being nice (which was often because the kid made my skin crawl) from then on. I was sent to the principals office a few times after it kept happening.

I met him, later on, when we were both about 15. I hadn't seen him for ten years or so but recognized that evil fucking glare and those empty goddamn eyes in an instant.

Not that having the teacher arrange a vote to kick him out of my kindergarten class would have been anywhere near the right course of action, but seriously, fuck our society and their insistence that no child is bad, only BRAIN PROBLEMS HOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNK

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Wow.

Yeah, that's pretty much why I don't like you, Guild.

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who gives a flying shit

goddamn moron too proud to ask for help and too self-important to keep his suicide to himself

deserved whatever the fucker gave himself

the fact that you posted this yesterday and yet are still calling me callous makes me giggle

Guild · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:16:11 PM »

You don't like me because I was shocked by the statement you made?

Now that you've gone to great lengths to explain yourself I see your point, but before said explaination pretty much every cool person I know fell into your description.

Edit: Looks like playing the victim is your forte, so I won't try.

Friday · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:27:24 PM »

Good. Leave me alone.

I mean it.

Guild · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:40:40 PM »

For what it's worth now, sorry for the victim card crack. It was immature.

Kazz · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:48:48 PM »

"This child has brain problems and you have to respect that" doesn't mean very much when authority figures use it as an excuse to do nothing about his behavior.

Respect what? Getting beaten for no reason? The kid was trained throughout his childhood that his bad behavior was totally excusable.

I remember a kid in my elementary school that got to run around hitting everybody with rulers. Whatever he whined about, he got his way, because he had brain problems. In later grades, he had his own comfy chair and a cool new laptop, because he had brain problems. If you get your way all the time, and you even get awesome toys, how do you learn that it's not okay to act that way?

The moral of the story is, can I have brain problems now?

(for the record, I don't recall him being any slower than anyone else. I just remember him hitting people and getting coddled.)

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