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Author Topic: Penn State Scandal  (Read 11489 times)

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Re: Penn State Scandal
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2011, 12:57:29 PM »

I wonder if there are any sort of mandatory reporting laws that would be relevant.  Not that they'd bring him up on 'em.
Read something yesterday about the mandatory reporting law becoming very strict in Pennsylvania in 2002, so the administration would be held to the 1998 standard, as that was the time the abuse was reported, and this the AD and president will not face the accessory charges they would today.

re Gricar: he'd seriously just come off the world's biggest drug bust; that would likely have more to do with his disappearance.

This whole thing just continues to sicken me.  I seriously can't think of two groups less likely to report this kind of abuse than jocks and the underprivileged; I'm sure Sandusky realized that exact thing, and that just makes it worse.
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Re: Penn State Scandal
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2011, 07:30:06 PM »

My buddies keep going on about this thing, so I keep getting new stuff.

Unsubstantiated rumour surfaces that Sandusky was pimping young boys to select rich donors

For Penn State's sake, let's hope that remains unsubstantiated.
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Re: Penn State Scandal
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2011, 07:34:24 PM »

EDIT: found a better one.

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Re: Penn State Scandal
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2011, 07:32:11 AM »

Ashton Kutcher, everybody.
"He tweeted, 'As an advocate in the fight against child sexual exploitation, I could not be more remorseful for all involved in the Penn St. case. As of immediately I will stop tweeting until I find a way to properly manage this feed. I feel awful about this error. Won’t happen again.'

 He included a link to a post on his blog saying that he’s turned over his Twitter account management to his production company. He writes, 'Up until today I have posted virtually everyone of my tweets on my own, but clearly the platform has become to big to be managed by a single individual… While I will continue to express myself through @Aplusk I’m going to turn the management of the feed over to my team at Katalyst Media to ensure the quality of it’s (sic) content.'"

Or, in other words, "I don't give a flying fuck about child trafficking but my publicist does, so forgive the bit there where I accidentally my own opinion."
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Re: Penn State Scandal
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2011, 07:34:20 AM »

Finally, the one man to make Ashton Kutcher shuttup is Ashton Kutcher.

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Re: Penn State Scandal
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2011, 11:26:37 AM »

Oh.  I just thought he was trying to replace Charlie Sheen in the "insane Twitter feed of the month" slot too.
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Re: Penn State Scandal
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2011, 12:53:40 PM »

don't worry, brent

kanye will have a new solo album out soon enough
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Re: Penn State Scandal
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2011, 01:19:23 PM »

CBS: Why didn't anyone call the cops?

Gets into various state laws on reporting abuse, including what Ocksi said about loopholes in Pennsylvania law that were closed in '02.

Stomach-churning stuff.
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Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2012, 12:08:25 PM »

Joe Paterno.  Good fucking riddance, hope it hurt.
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2012, 03:48:57 PM »

Joe Paterno.  Good fucking riddance, hope it hurt.

couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Molesting a child is a reprehensible thing, but at least you have the excuse of being mentally damaged and posessing uncontrollable urges. I think something that's much worse than molesting a child is enabling the child molester because you don't want to lose a couple of fucking football games.
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2012, 05:55:17 PM »

Apparently the twitterblogosphere is screaming mad at how the criminal and unjust public pushed lovable joepa into an early grave.


Is there anything on this earth that could bludgeon some sense into people who take football too seriously.
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2012, 06:14:33 PM »

Look

Look

I know he let a man rape children

But he won those footballs so good

edit: also, he was 85, incredibly rich and surrounded by loving friends and family. If there was any justice in this world he would have died in a jail cell. Fuck those people on twitter for their lack of perspective.
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2012, 08:51:18 PM »

...not that I disagree, but maybe Rico has a point about general nastiness in the obit thread.
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2012, 11:27:17 PM »

http://twitter.com/#!/cwgabriel/status/161283324084633600/photo/1

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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2012, 12:26:16 AM »

I just got done saying the GOP would be the ones to be inordinately pleased at somebody's misfortune.

Never fucking mind then.
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2012, 01:35:31 AM »

Sorry.

I already hate the fanaticism behind sports that drives normally rational people to do retarded things due to spots in Texas, and now up here there's the Ducks and the Beavers (I shit you not)

So what we have here is a perfect storm in my case. Sports fanaticism (CAN'T LOSE THOSE FOOTBAWL GAEMS) drove someone to let another guy keep fucking little boys.
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2012, 03:35:28 AM »

Okay yeah reading this after the adrenaline rush of pulling off a successful D&D stunt you've spent months planning goes off 95% hitch-free, yeah, this is kind of nasty.

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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2012, 05:32:42 AM »

I think the other thing to keep in mind is how old and senile he was getting and how that decline had been hinted at for years. When the man cut his teeth, sex scandals were something you Didn't Talk About and quietly shuffling them away was how those things were dealt with. That doesn't justify his inaction or make it acceptable in any way, but there was more there than just a desire to win games: There's a refusal (or inability) to acknowledge that what was once acceptable was no longer acceptable and a lack of proper empathy for the victims (i.e. grossly underestimating how important this was).

:tldr: It was still a horrible failure, but it was a complex failure rather than a simple case of "FUHBAWLZ!".
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2012, 06:44:09 AM »

There is also the other side of the coin that perfectly rational people like football and also think what he and his staff did to cover up a child sex scandal is completely fucking unacceptable and him losing his job and having his reputation tarnished is the least that should have happened to him. I like football, as far as I know smiler also likes football, neither one of us posted anything on our facebook pages about how Joe should be let go because of his winning seasons, and quite frankly, I don't feel like we're a minority when it comes to child fucking. You can be rational and still like sports. Furthermore, I've watched two people waste away from some of the strongest people I knew to dead inside of six months because of cancer, it is not the type of death anyone deserves and is far less humane than even the worst things we do to the worst criminals.
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Re: Re: The new obituary thread
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2012, 07:03:34 AM »

Adding to what Mongrel said: calling someone a child molester is about the most serious allegation you can make.  If someone comes to you and tells you that one of your colleagues is a child molester, you're not going to want to believe it and, more, you're going to worry about what happens if you report him and destroy his life and it turns out he's actually innocent.

I don't know Joe Paterno, and I don't know what was going through his head.  But I bet that was a part of it.

And that doesn't excuse it.  He deserved to be fired and he deserved to have this stain on his obituary.  He may even have deserved incarceration.

But yeah I do think this thread's starting to get a little toxic and would like it if people would back off a bit.  I'm not going to say we can't criticize the dead, because of course we can, but it would be nice if we could give people like McCaffrey and Paterno at least as much solemn reflection as we gave Osama goddamn Bin Laden.
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