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0 (0%)

Lottel

5 (71.4%)

Meikai

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Caithness

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Kayma

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Ziiro

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Defen

2 (28.6%)

Total Members Voted: 7

[Syl]

I only bid on envy because I wanted the day to go faster and actually finish by the time I came back.  This happened, but very far from the way that I was expecting it.

I still absolutely fully believe that Laser and Smiler are the vampires.  I mean seriously, how more obvious could that be?  The werewolves may be a bigger threat. 

We know that each item is now in possession from someone.  That means that anyone who attempts to make themselves a target could explode someone else.   We know that the auction house is going to be selling items in the near future, but i'm sure whomever owns the auction house will be trying to create the least amount of attention possible.  We also have someone who can follow someone else, i suggest you choose wisely.

I bid on things last night, I did not win anything. 

So, for now, i'm going with the "so obvious it hurts" guess and voting Smiler.  Seriously, Alucard? 

[Friend]

Ah, I'll explain. It's only a lie if he meant to imply that he, like Caithness, also bid all of his money on Interceptor. This would, of course, preclude him from being allowed to make any bid at all on the PI. It would be so obviously impossible that he couldn't make large bids on both that I chose to believe that wasn't what he intended to have claimed.

Ok, I see what you're saying now. This makes sense to me.

I still absolutely fully believe that Laser and Smiler are the vampires.  I mean seriously, how more obvious could that be?  The werewolves may be a bigger threat...So, for now, i'm going with the "so obvious it hurts" guess and voting Smiler.  Seriously, Alucard? 

The avatars and roles are purely flavor text. I'm not saying Smiler isn't a vampire, but if he is, it would just be a coincidence.

[NexAdruin]

I only bid on envy because I wanted the day to go faster and actually finish by the time I came back.  This happened, but very far from the way that I was expecting it.

I am generally against the idea of "getting a day over with" because for a vanilla innocent without items, the only information to be gathered is voting patterns and posting irregularities.

[Classic]

I don't have any good ideas today.

[Lottel]

I voted Envy Day 1 because you have to vote for someone Day 1 and Envy can be annoying to deal with in the game.

Now that it is no longer Day 1,  I only intended to vote for who I feel is wolfy or batty.

[Lottel]

Oh boy. There were more posts I didn't see due to posting on my phone.
Oh well.

[Kayma]

Kayma is a lying liar who lies

The remark about offering the PI gobs of money was flippant. I offered him 5. The rest went to wolfsbane and hookers, probably.

I don't have any good ideas today.

I do. Is this post seriously not raising any red flags with people? Romosome is either a devil calling out to his wolf bretheren or vice-versa. Would've known for sure if the PI wasn't busy dying. Either way, die dude.

[Nickasummers]

Is this post seriously not raising any red flags with people? Romosome is either a devil calling out to his wolf bretheren or vice-versa. Would've known for sure if the PI wasn't busy dying. Either way, die dude.

Honestly, when I first read that I thought nothing of it. It was pretty early on, I figured he was just being silly, but now that you mention it I can see your logic. Anyone else have thoughts on that?

[NexAdruin]

In BongoBill's cheap knockoff extravaganza I jokingly voted to lynch the weretiger, but that is not a role who has friends and basically everyone wants the weretiger dead. This thing with Romosome could go either way

[Disposable Ninja]

I am generally against the idea of "getting a day over with" because for a vanilla innocent without items, the only information to be gathered is voting patterns and posting irregularities.

But randomly bandwagoning on somebody to put pressure on them and to get the nightscum to lower their guard is the best way to get shit done on day 1. FOR EXAMPLE: Caithness was the first person to suggest lynching Tefari, who was all but a confirmed innocent at the time. Yeah, he wasn't playing, but he wasn't hurting the innocents just yet.

[NexAdruin]

I am generally against the idea of "getting a day over with" because for a vanilla innocent without items, the only information to be gathered is voting patterns and posting irregularities.

But randomly bandwagoning on somebody to put pressure on them and to get the nightscum to lower their guard is the best way to get shit done on day 1. FOR EXAMPLE: Caithness was the first person to suggest lynching Tefari, who was all but a confirmed innocent at the time. Yeah, he wasn't playing, but he wasn't hurting the innocents just yet.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, here. This is exactly why I don't agree with getting a day over with. I was replying to Syl, who said he wanted a day to end before he got back.

There's something to be said for limiting daytime and keeping the game from drawing out for a year like your typical Guildwolves, but at the same time nobody should really be in a rush to end a day unless they've got something to fear from the lynch.

[Disposable Ninja]

but at the same time nobody should really be in a rush to end a day unless they've got something to fear from the lynch.

Day 1 is different, though, because there's usually no reason to prolong it even if you're an innocent. There's simply isn't any real information to use, only hearsay and guesswork. Ending Day 1 is the only way to gather any Intelligence by seeing who gets lynched and who gets nightkilled, and that's why I bandwagoned onto Envy.

Now, I'm not saying that's why Syl voted to get the day over with. He could be a wolf/vamp, or he could be a vanilla innocent who's so new at the game that he just doesn't know how to think critically about it, yet. I know I was when I started my first few wolf games, which is why he's not high up on my suspect list.

[Bongo Bill]

I've played with Syl; he's got more than a few games under his belt. Maybe he just doesn't know how we do things around here. Wanting to rush things is usually a sign of feeling vulnerable - not necessarily of having bad intentions. If you get more information at night than during the day, then daytime is a matter of hoping your name doesn't come up, and that's true whether you're a wolfpire or just a timid inno.

I've still got my eye on you, Syl, but since I just finished saying that haste is a classic trap, I'd be negligent if I didn't point out that I noticed Nex and Kayma have been a bit on the aggressive side, Envy's day 1 behavior was aberrant in the way Defenestration mentioned, and there's a whole mess of players we haven't heard from yet today. I don't currently think it would be prudent to cast a vote based on the issues that a few early posters decided to make important, even if they've got a good point.

[Disposable Ninja]

I've played with Syl; he's got more than a few games under his belt.

Well, shit, that changes a lot.

[Syl]

I told you guys, I wanted the day finished with because it was roughly two votes away from a lynch and I wasn't going to be able to check the thread over the next two days.

I left for vacation assuming that Envy was going to die, therefore I wouldn't have had to worry about whatever kind of crazy arguing could have taken place in my absence.  I don't know envy, i just also knew that my vote for Laser was going to be wasted if I disappeared, so I went with an option that may have created some interest.  Its entirely void now though because Envy didn't die anyway. 

Honestly I think the most important thing right now are the people who are not talking.  We have two total votes today, one of them is my vote (which i seriously still think is valid.  Smiley and Laser, vampires, I bet you) and the other vote today is what looks to be the holdover from the attempted bandwagon yesterday.

I don't know any of envy's late game shenanigans, so maybe there is a valid threat there.

I've played with Syl; he's got more than a few games under his belt. Maybe he just doesn't know how we do things around here. Wanting to rush things is usually a sign of feeling vulnerable - not necessarily of having bad intentions. If you get more information at night than during the day, then daytime is a matter of hoping your name doesn't come up, and that's true whether you're a wolfpire or just a timid inno.

I've still got my eye on you, Syl, but since I just finished saying that haste is a classic trap, I'd be negligent if I didn't point out that I noticed Nex and Kayma have been a bit on the aggressive side, Envy's day 1 behavior was aberrant in the way Defenestration mentioned, and there's a whole mess of players we haven't heard from yet today. I don't currently think it would be prudent to cast a vote based on the issues that a few early posters decided to make important, even if they've got a good point.

You also know that I to talk too much regardless of whatever role I may have.  I have to admit that the inclusion of items makes this game far more complicated than any previous game i've been in.  I'm used to things far more... vanilla.

Quite frankly, I can see any reason to kill almost anyone in this game.  Noone is coming forward as anything - not even whomever won the items last night.  The PI is dead, which removes a major source of information.  It'll be interesting to see where things go.

I haven't played with the vast majority of you, i have nothing BUT what shows up in this thread and avatars to go off of.

On that note, I'm going to assume that it was the wolves who killed last night.  Vampires probably want to grow their ranks.  Someone owns the auction house, someone has a defensive measure (interceptor) and someone can, potentially, fill in the role of the dead PI. 

[Niku]

For the record, Envy's greatest strength is how he's basically a Werewolf idiot savant.  He will often say incredibly open things that give away his position, and yet manage to pull off incredible misdirection or sleights of hand through sheer luck -- or genius.

[Bongo Bill]

For the record, Envy's greatest strength is how he's basically a Werewolf idiot savant.  He will often say incredibly open things that give away his position, and yet manage to pull off incredible misdirection or sleights of hand through sheer luck -- or genius.

It's the truth. I mean, look at how he managed to get Tefari killed.

[Friday]

('Cause I was gonna say, I seem to recall there was one incident in the past where Friday made it clear that an item hadn't been bid on at all. A rule revision?)

The incident you are remembering was when nobody bid at all on the Lightsaber. As the Saber is a public item, it was clear nobody had bid on it.

[Bongo Bill]

Ah. Well, that explains it.

[Caithness]

If I were GM I would have let the day continue after modkilling Tefari. Now we're in kind of an awkward Day One and a Half. You were right, Kayma, no-lynch is a dumb strategy.

Syl, Smiler didn't choose Alucard, it's a role that Friday assigned to him. Same with Laser. Your role is Bubbancy, and mine is Heinkel Wolfe. They're just getting a little more in-costume than the rest of us.