Topic: Vampires vs Werewolves IX: 1000 Year Reign (Read 50639 times)

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #160 on:** March 19, 2012, 10:02:52 AM »

Quote from: Caithness on March 19, 2012, 09:28:13 AM

The only role I had in Tefari's quitting was bringing to his attention the fact that the game had started. He may have quit even if someone else, or nobody, had mentioned it to him.

I... wasn't talking about getting Tef to quit. I was talking about this:

Quote from: Caithness on March 16, 2012, 08:17:32 AM

What if we lynch Tefari instead, since he wants to quit anyway?

And this:

Quote from: Caithness on March 16, 2012, 12:07:34 PM

If he's quitting anyway, it's functionally the same as a no-lynch.

Ziiro · « **Reply #161 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:06:31 AM »

Based on the above evidence I'll vote Caithness instead. When faced with the evidence of a confirmed innocent on day 1, that's just someone you can take off the board and throw the random day 1 lynch dart elsewhere.

Classic · « **Reply #162 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:35:40 AM »

I've been pretty quiet, but it's mostly because I've been sulking over not getting the AH bid.

Caithness · « **Reply #163 on:** March 19, 2012, 12:10:59 PM »

All I was doing was suggesting a possible way around the rule against no-lynch votes. I wasn't actually advocating it, or I would have voted for Tefari.

I wasn't trying to get a confirmed innocent killed. He wasn't a confirmed innocent because he wasn't even in the game. He had already quit.

Bleck · « **Reply #164 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:18:04 PM »

I feel as though Disposable Ninja's attempt to pin Friday's decision to modkill Tefari on Caithness was fairly irrational, since it's clear that he was quitting the game entirely.

Syl · « **Reply #165 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:27:56 PM »

I'm just really curious how the term "confirmed innocent" is getting thrown around at all. How could someone be a "confirmed innocent" given the circumstances of werewolf? Is anyone else a confirmed innocent?

Bleck · « **Reply #166 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:35:31 PM »

When people die, their roles are revealed. The two people killed so far were confirmed to have been innocent.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #167 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:50:37 PM »

Right. We know without a doubt that the two dead people were innocent. But I think what Syl is asking is was Tefari "confirmed" before the modkill. The answer is "pretty much," because he let slip that he had not received any kind of role PM in a "oh the game has started?" kind of way. This would have been a pretty elaborate trick, especially for a new player.

I'm going to agree with Bleck that Disposable Ninja is grilling Caithness far too hard over this.

Friend · « **Reply #168 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:55:04 PM »

I agree with Bongo. I think we should probably focus on getting rid of the quiet people, especially the ones who haven't posted once since day 2 started. That would be

Envy
Smiler
Dizzy
Kazz
Meikai
Spineshark

Envy · « **Reply #169 on:** March 19, 2012, 03:10:40 PM »

Being another vanilla inno I'm just trying to piece together what I can from what you guys post. I've not seen anything other then Friend, Defen, and Nex doing anything out of the ordinary. I'm holding my tongue for now.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #170 on:** March 19, 2012, 03:16:38 PM »

Quote from: NexAdruin on March 19, 2012, 02:50:37 PM

I'm going to agree with Bleck that Disposable Ninja is grilling Caithness far too hard over this.

Look, Brah, all I know is that a dude who was playing quit because he thought he screwed up by accidentally revealing his role... as an innocent. Caithness suggested the dude be lynched, the dude got lynched, and now we're down two innocents.

That's some questionable circumstances. Sorry if my grilling is too big for ya'll.

Friend · « **Reply #171 on:** March 19, 2012, 03:28:17 PM »

Quote from: Envy on March 19, 2012, 03:10:40 PM

Being another vanilla inno I'm just trying to piece together what I can from what you guys post...I'm holding my tongue for now.

If you're vanilla innocent, why not, y'know, communicate and work with your fellow teammates? Who does it benefit to keep silent? Don't you think it would help if you told us what you were "trying to piece together"?

Defenestration · « **Reply #172 on:** March 19, 2012, 03:33:12 PM »

Quote from: Envy on March 19, 2012, 03:10:40 PM

Being another vanilla inno I'm just trying to piece together what I can from what you guys post. I've not seen anything other then Friend, Defen, and Nex doing anything out of the ordinary. I'm holding my tongue for now.

That's the point. I've already made the case for myself, Friend has only brought up contradictions and logic, and Nex's actions have only been general observations. It's curious that you would compare the three of us and not mention Syl, Romosome, or Cait. You know, looking at the tread, one thing me, Nex, and Friend have all done is supported lynching Envy at some point.

I'm making it official. Envy

LaserBeing · « **Reply #173 on:** March 19, 2012, 03:40:38 PM »

Quote from: Disposable Ninja on March 19, 2012, 03:16:38 PM

Caithness suggested the dude be lynched, the dude got lynched

That's not actually what happened though. The dude didn't get lynched, he got modkilled. Caithness's "suggestion" had absolutely no bearing on what ended up happening.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #174 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:01:29 PM »

If he wasn't lynched then why did the day end, why did night roll on in, and why is zara a murdered guy, now?

Nickasummers · « **Reply #175 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:05:58 PM »

A lynch is something controlled by the players and entirely within the rules of the game. He was mod killed in place of a lynch, which is something the game host does for reasons outside of the rules because it is necessary, and is totally uncontrolled by the players. he was not lynched.

Lottel · « **Reply #176 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:09:13 PM »

Quote from: Envy on March 19, 2012, 03:10:40 PM

Being another vanilla inno I'm just trying to piece together what I can from what you guys post. I've not seen anything other then Friend, Defen, and Nex doing anything out of the ordinary. I'm holding my tongue for now.

Envy

Lottel · « **Reply #177 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:10:00 PM »

And since one of you bozos might get on my case about making a one word post, I've slain the wolf Envy many a time and he always says he's vanilla.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #178 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:13:19 PM »

Also: it doesn't matter if Tefari was modlynched or whatever, suggesting that he get lynched on Day 1 at all was dumb and would only serve to inconvenience the rest of the innocents. I look back on that day and I regret saying nothing.

And now they're coming for me, and who will speak for me? Certainly none of you nazi vampires. I am up shit holocaust without a Diary.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #179 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:47:58 PM »

There's no way I can buy that Envy is vanilla, what with his extreme defensiveness yesterday and highly specific denials today. I am voting for him because he will probably squirm usefully. I mean, seriously. He's a vanilla, but he's holding his tongue? What could a vanilla possibly know on day 2 with the PI dead?

But I haven't forgotten about the quiet guys. They think we don't notice them trying to lay low. It almost worked! Thanks to Friend for pointing out that I forgot Meikai.

Caithness suggested an equivalence between voting for a dropout and voting for no lynch, and he wasn't far wrong. Voting for no-lynch is a trap. It's all well and good to not want anybody to die, but the omelet of werewolf victory was never made without breaking a few heads. We know this. It's the domain of scoundrels and fools. Caithness and Classic thought it was acceptable.

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