Topic: Vampires vs Werewolves IX: 1000 Year Reign (Read 50656 times)

Defenestration · « **Reply #340 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:39:35 PM »

Quote from: Bleck on March 27, 2012, 10:25:29 PM

I didn't think that using my hammertime would put so much suspicion on me. It was pretty shortsighted, in retrospect.

Quote from: Kazz on March 22, 2012, 09:07:45 PM
If you'll pardon my meta, I feel like Friday tends to give innocent roles to new players and wolfy roles to veterans. so spineshark is probably innocent and probably forgot about the game.

romo, on the other hand, is probably a wolfpire, for reasons stated above.

i will tactfully forget to mention myself.

This is a double bluff. I thought Kazz was a vampire, which is why I tried to kill him last night - but it turns out he's actually a werewolf.

The werewolves know about me now, and my whip will need recharging for a whole night that I'm not likely to survive, so there's no point in keeping it a secret. If we can convince Classic to use his amazing Jedi powers to kill today, I guarantee we'll nab a wolf.

...I have no reason to disbelieve you at this moment. It explains why you were worried about the night phase, though my statement about it being dumb stands. Fine, let's get

Kayma · « **Reply #341 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:42:28 PM »

Oh for sure.

Syl · « **Reply #342 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:49:06 PM »

Quote from: Defenestration on March 27, 2012, 08:48:18 PM

Why aren't you voting for the lightsaber vote first, Syl? The lynch ends the day.

I can change a lynch vote before 8 votes happen, a lightsaber vote will happen immediately, swiftly, and generally at Classics pure whim. I honestly didn't know who else to target at the time.

Well, If Bleck has the vampirekiller whip and says its kazz, I guess KAZZ for a lightsaber through the head. Though there is a small chance this is entirely a play to make sure that we kill Kazz and then trust bleck, who may be a wolfpire (i like that word).

That... doesn't seem likely though. I guess we'll resume regular voting after Kazz is dead?

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #343 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:49:32 PM »

you know what? I'm not even going to vote on this. There's nothing to vote on. We have a mostly confirmed wolf and an instant kill to use on him.

I will say that Bleck's decision to Role Claim is batshit stupid, though. He could have implicated Kazz without revealing himself and guaranteeing his death should he in fact be the Vampire Hunter. (After all, up until this morning Vampires could Scry). Whatever. If he's still alive by tomorrow I'd say he's lynchable enough.

Defenestration · « **Reply #344 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:55:07 PM »

Quote from: Disposable Ninja on March 27, 2012, 10:49:32 PM

you know what? I'm not even going to vote on this. There's nothing to vote on. We have a mostly confirmed wolf and an instant kill to use on him.

I will say that Bleck's decision to Role Claim is batshit stupid, though. He could have implicated Kazz without revealing himself and guaranteeing his death should he in fact be the Vampire Hunter. (After all, up until this morning Vampires could Scry). Whatever. If he's still alive by tomorrow I'd say he's lynchable enough.

How is it stupid? If he was a vampire, how could he have possibly have deduced Kazz's role? If he didn't and was wrong, it would simply be ending the game completely for the vampires. The short term gain offers no long term benefit, since it would result in his immediate lynching. What is the point of lynching him at all?

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #345 on:** March 27, 2012, 11:10:40 PM »

Quote from: Defenestration on March 27, 2012, 10:55:07 PM

If he was a vampire, how could he have possibly have deduced Kazz's role?

Draculas can scry. Vampires had a Dracula until last night.

Quote from: Defenestration on March 27, 2012, 10:55:07 PM

If he didn't and was wrong, it would simply be ending the game completely for the vampires. The short term gain offers no long term benefit, since it would result in his immediate lynching. What is the point of lynching him at all?

I'm not saying he's wrong, he very likely does know for a fact that [wacky font]Kazz[/wacky font] is a wolf, either through Dracula Scry or Scry Item. I'm saying by role calling and pointing us at a wolf to lynch, he could be trying to engender trust and avoid being lynched for a while longer, thus giving the vampires more time to win.

If he survives until morning, he might be a vampire, since Vampires can nightkill him.

Kayma · « **Reply #346 on:** March 27, 2012, 11:17:48 PM »

Eh. He furthered the town's goals by convincingly pegging a wolf. Who cares if he dies? Was there really a more optimal move?

Let's say he's a vamp. The real Simo Belmo would know this now, and would very likely be lacing up his whipping shoes as we speak. It's a win for us either way.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #347 on:** March 27, 2012, 11:20:00 PM »

point taken.

Defenestration · « **Reply #348 on:** March 27, 2012, 11:23:37 PM »

To be clear, DN, did you make a lightsaber vote with your last post? It was a bit ambigous.

Classic · « **Reply #349 on:** March 27, 2012, 11:29:46 PM »

I didn't see anything gaudy, so I have to assume he abstained there.
I feel it would be gentlemanly to wait until Kazz says his peace in the off chance he's actually an innocent.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #350 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:51:22 AM »

why would the wolves want to eat a vampire hunter? Why would a failed vampire hunter whip automatically make the target a wolf?

Wolves can't turn without a greater wolf, so no, it's probably safe to assume that they did not turn anyone last night unless we're living in a bizarro Guild world.

Kayma · « **Reply #351 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:56:40 AM »

Quote from: NexAdruin on March 28, 2012, 02:51:22 AM

Wolves can't turn without a greater wolf, so no, it's probably safe to assume that they did not turn anyone last night unless we're living in a bizarro Guild world.

I'm not certain that's true. Any wolves care to clarify the rules?

NexAdruin · « **Reply #352 on:** March 28, 2012, 05:00:33 AM »

Just checked the rules. Doesn't say the G Wolf is needed for a turn. I think that's another old rule and I got confused. At any rate, it is possible they turned.

Classic · « **Reply #353 on:** March 28, 2012, 05:32:55 AM »

Quote from: NexAdruin on March 28, 2012, 05:00:33 AM

Doesn't say the G Wolf is needed for a turn.

Well color me in the doubly interested to murder all wolves then.

I thought I was safe from all turning attempts.
I went all-in on the lightsaber bid. So I can't afford nightkill protection.

Kazz · « **Reply #354 on:** March 28, 2012, 07:06:50 AM »

Should I really go through with my vote-record and historical analysis if I'm about to get a lightsaber to the face?

I'll do it if Classic will say that he's going to let me; I don't want to get started on a really, really long post and then get you may wish to review your post and find out I fucking died in the middle of writing it.

Classic · « **Reply #355 on:** March 28, 2012, 07:42:04 AM »

I hammertimed so that we'd have a two-lynch day.

I'm not going to use the lightsaber until at least the hammertime extension is up. My post:

Quote from: Classic on March 27, 2012, 11:29:46 PM

I feel it would be gentlemanly to wait until Kazz says his peace in the off chance he's actually an innocent.

Was basically me saying that I'd wait longer if I thought it meant the difference between hearing from you and not.

Bleck · « **Reply #356 on:** March 28, 2012, 08:06:10 AM »

Quote from: NexAdruin on March 28, 2012, 02:51:22 AM

why would the wolves want to eat a vampire hunter?

The vampire hunter is still an innocent.

Quote from: NexAdruin on March 28, 2012, 02:51:22 AM

Why would a failed vampire hunter whip automatically make the target a wolf?

In the event that the vampire hunter targets a werewolf, the target is not killed, but both the werewolf (and presumably, their teammates) and the vampire hunter are aware of each other roles.

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #357 on:** March 28, 2012, 08:23:25 AM »

Quote from: Bleck on March 28, 2012, 08:06:10 AM

Quote from: NexAdruin on March 28, 2012, 02:51:22 AM
why would the wolves want to eat a vampire hunter?

The vampire hunter is still an innocent.

Yeah, an innocent who can instantly kill vampires.

Bleck · « **Reply #358 on:** March 28, 2012, 08:29:57 AM »

There can only be so many vampires, at this point. When are they supposed to draw the line between 'potential asset' and 'guy who knows too much'?

Ziiro · « **Reply #359 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:03:50 AM »

My vote is to Lightsaber Kazz. At this point, we've been having a fuckton of bads dying and the common thread is low activity not voting.

If it's wrong, we lynch Bleck.

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