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Author Topic: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]  (Read 30848 times)

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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #260 on: September 27, 2013, 07:59:29 PM »

I'm pleased with this latest episode, which is why I'm going to spend the rest of this post complaining.

[spoiler]I was hoping Unalaq would turn out to have more nuanced motives, just for variety's sake, but now that it's clear he doesn't, I can accept that. He's not a well-intentioned opportunist, but a jerkbender who planned everything from the beginning. Given that, from now on we can read the story for what it is, rather than as something it clearly doesn't want to be.[/spoiler]

Continuing that line of thought, I think that while it's clear Korra's series isn't living up to the heights that Aang's reached, the question is: Why not? People like to throw the word "pacing" around, but I think that's an unsatisfactory explanation. To be sure, if the plot's moving this fast, it makes it harder to establish a really strong mood. On the other hand, the way it's structured means that just about the only way to put the brakes on it would be for Korra to be even slower on the uptake, and I don't think anybody wants that.

So, if it's the structure of the story itself that's at fault, what is that structure? Aang starred in an adventure series - there was a long overarching goal with stops along the way. But Korra's not in an adventure series. For one thing, it doesn't suit her character: she has the means to go anywhere and the temerity to do anything, so it's harder to sidetrack her. The kind of story she's in is more like a thriller or a mystery, and the only things that can moderate the pace of the plot are twists and revelations. This also makes it difficult for the protagonist to grow gradually.

So that's how this series differs from the previous one. I don't know if I just prefer adventures to thrillers, or the writers are more skilled at adventures, or if it's just a case of wrong expectations, but I feel like now that I know what kind of story I'm watching I'll be able to enjoy it more.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #261 on: September 27, 2013, 10:41:36 PM »

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Why not? People like to throw the word "pacing" around, but I think that's an unsatisfactory explanation.

I still maintain that Korra is not as good because the characters are not as good. I'm not saying Korra has shit characters, but it doesn't have (in order of magnitude) Iroh, or Toph, or Zuko, or Bumi, or Azula, or Ty Lee, or Mai, or Suki. OH NO I LEFT OUT YOUR PERSONAL FAVORITE (suck my dick)

In Korra season one, we at least had an extremely effective, mysterious, and menacing villain in Amon. Now we have jerkface the Uncle and some angry spirits. Who are probably angry at jerkface the uncle. For being such a jerkface.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #262 on: September 27, 2013, 11:24:49 PM »

In Korra season one, we at least had an extremely effective, mysterious, and menacing villain in Amon. Now we have jerkface the Uncle and some angry spirits. Who are probably angry at jerkface the uncle. For being such a jerkface.

Yep. They pretty much broadcast a Petard Hoist Ending for Unalaq from the moment he did the spirit dance.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #263 on: September 28, 2013, 09:17:34 AM »

Yeah I'm pretty sure that whatever technique he's using on them is not "returning them to normal" but rather actually disintegrating/destroying them as is shown. It just happens to look like some sort of enlightened peace/love/harmony thing because they turn gold and calm.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #264 on: September 30, 2013, 06:03:06 AM »

[spoiler]I was hoping Unalaq would turn out to have more nuanced motives, just for variety's sake, but now that it's clear he doesn't, I can accept that. He's not a well-intentioned opportunist, but a jerkbender who planned everything from the beginning. Given that, from now on we can read the story for what it is, rather than as something it clearly doesn't want to be.[/spoiler]

That is fair. I'm watching for Varrick.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #265 on: October 05, 2013, 03:24:49 PM »

Caught episodes 1 and 2. The ending was really rushed, but I loved this. The spirits are completely fucking awesome, and Bolin got some great scenes.

Honestly, I was kind of surprised when it ended. I was positive that [spoiler]Unalaq was just water-bending in the shape of the spirits, and staging the entire thing, to create a crisis and put him into power. I honestly did not think for a second that these were actual spirits, until the resolution at the end.[/spoiler]
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #266 on: October 06, 2013, 07:31:44 AM »

Spoilers for episode 5: [spoiler]The attack on the cultural center was obviously the doing of A. Firebender, heinous killer of parents everywhere.[/spoiler]
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #267 on: October 07, 2013, 06:38:44 PM »

Continuing that line of thought, I think that while it's clear Korra's series isn't living up to the heights that Aang's reached, the question is: Why not?

The first season was really a matter of taste for most people, but this one so far is... well, let's just say that all the moments that don't involve Korra are still amazing.

But man, Korra has gone from "hotheaded" to "idiot berserker" somewhere in the span between S1 and S2.  I guess that's still character development - when you solve all your problems by fucking up completely and gaining new magic powers from it (or by [spoiler]assaulting a judge and having everything work out perfectly with no repercussions[/spoiler]), you're bound to stop giving a shit about the need for balance and prudence.  But it's painful to watch.  If I didn't know better I'd almost say they're setting HER up to be the next villain, what with her plainly selfish motives and rapidly degrading emotional stability, and while that would be interesting, probably wouldn't be as satisfying as a solid show where you're not expected to root for the world's most magical bully.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #268 on: October 07, 2013, 08:42:54 PM »

Don't forget her trying to sic an army on Unalaq after the president had said no already. In fact the whole military industrial complex plan with Varrick and Asami.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #269 on: October 07, 2013, 11:05:21 PM »

We've somehow found ourselves in the darkest timeline, where Mako is the best character. Part of me would like to believe that the writers know Korra is going off the rails, but every character in authority is given such obvious evil signifiers. Maybe they're planning on doing this to subvert expectations, but somehow the whole "Family show on Nickelodeon" suggests otherwise.

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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #270 on: October 07, 2013, 11:55:06 PM »

Did you notice that they just up and offed two sympathetic villains last season?
The gloves are off dude.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #271 on: October 08, 2013, 01:56:10 AM »

Uhhhh which villains? I don't remember anyone fitting that bill.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #272 on: October 08, 2013, 02:36:43 AM »

Did SEASON 1 SPOILERS [spoiler]Amon + Sibling[/spoiler] un-die in the episodes I haven't seen yet?
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #273 on: October 08, 2013, 02:44:03 AM »

How the hell are either of those two jerks sympathetic? They weren't exactly hitting it out of the park.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #274 on: October 08, 2013, 02:47:14 AM »

They didn't exactly have high stadium walls to hit it out of.

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I mean, I'm surprised that they let named characters die. And it could be that they're doing something special with this since they seem to have more executive freedom than many shows.

I mean this whole show is about how Avatars, even good ones, cause new problems.
But, yeah, kids show.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #275 on: October 08, 2013, 07:04:15 PM »

I don't know. I'd really be okay with Korra season 3 is Korra going full on "I'll take over the world THEN people will listen to me and stop being annoying (i.e. not agreeing)." She abuses Avatar powers and every tries to stop her.

And then after that is the next Avatar trying to fix the world while everyone hates them and tries to kill him on sight (like season 3 of Aang).

Would be a bit better than her half-assedly trying to fix her mistakes over and over again for the next few seasons.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #276 on: October 10, 2013, 08:16:49 PM »

Huh. I noticed that they didn't name who the Fire Lord was in that last ep (finally caught up)...
Do you suppose the Fire Lord is a new person, or do you suppose they're going to do twist and make Old Azula the Fire Lord?
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #277 on: October 10, 2013, 09:54:50 PM »

Why would it be Azula? Of all the possible people, Azula would not even be on the list.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #278 on: October 10, 2013, 11:09:08 PM »

I believe that the creators have gone on record as saying that the Firelord is Zuko's daughter.
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Re: The Last Airbender [Legend of Korra SPOILERS]
« Reply #279 on: October 11, 2013, 06:21:25 PM »

Is it just me or Varrick pretty much the perfect character?
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