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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2012, 07:42:01 AM »

Not really, but of all the Gundam time lines the U.C. timeline is the most interesting, and I gave my opinion. There's no real discussion to have though.
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2012, 05:00:26 PM »

I'm gonna go with the guys that aren't led by Space Hitler.

If we're seriously discussing best Gundam governments it has to be G, though.
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2012, 11:55:35 PM »

I'm gonna go with the guys that aren't led by Space Hitler.

If we're seriously discussing best Gundam governments it has to be G, though.
You could have appended the "governments" from that sentence and have it be much more meaningful. Also, true!

But yup, thread is officially over. I decree it.
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2012, 01:51:19 AM »

What I'd like to know is why all of the countries in G Gundam feel the need to indulge in the traditional stereotypes associated with their nations. Has being divorced from the Earth for so long actually made them nostalgic for the most obvious symbols of cultural identity? What merit does the Statue of Liberty Cannon have? It could much more easily have been mounted conventionally, I'm sure.
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2012, 02:46:45 AM »

A much better question is why the fuck did Wing Zero Custom have *individually feathered wings?* Dumbest thing ever!
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2012, 04:27:44 AM »

I actually know the answer to that question, to my eternal shame.
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2012, 05:23:23 AM »

Heat sinks?
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2012, 05:44:01 AM »

The feathers are individually mounted vernier rockets for crazy precise maneuverability. You can actually see them firing individually in a couple of scenes in Endless Waltz.
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2012, 07:57:17 AM »

The Feddies are corrupt and dictatorial, but they're still the lesser of the two evils after the Zeon coup.

It really depends on what organizational facets you are referring to within the early uc. The archduchy was doubtlessly ridiculously corrupt, but for the most part that was the doing of gihren. Had kishiria lived and succeeded with overthrowing her brother at a bao a ku events might have palyed out differently. Likewise, if char had succeeded in a coup. Both of these concepts were covered in the novels, where char joins the white base crew. Amuro dies relatively early ans the plot focuses mostly on char, who was at the time the much more likable protagonist

The later parts of the early uc, such as the events that lead up to the foundation of the TITANS show that the federation wasn't exactly great people. The war was over, zion was. A scattered confederation of space pirates and independanft cells and colonies were choked by the oppressive yoke of federation rule. Despite this, in total violation of treaties signed during the arctic summit, the federation completes development on two superweapons and begins development on two more. Gp01 thru Gp04 would have radically shifted the balance of power towards the federation, and all four weapons, plus the dendrobium mobile weapons platform were in complete defiance of existing treaties. Zions response was hardly measured, but ceretainly not unwarranted, but federation warhawks used the opportunity to create the TITANS, an unaccountable military branch of the main government that would later declare martial law on the colonies and restart newtype experiments that made zion's look humane.

Not to mention that the zion archduchy was only able to seize power because of oppressive taxes and policies that made spacers second class citizens, and the little fact that it was illegal for colonists to come to earth, permanently seperating them from their families...

Sorry for typos, phone keyboard. But my judgement is that the federation is the antagonist faction, even if the original series sugarcoated the fuck out of the conflict.
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Re: you know what I would love?
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2012, 11:52:55 AM »

What I'd like to know is why all of the countries in G Gundam feel the need to indulge in the traditional stereotypes associated with their nations. Has being divorced from the Earth for so long actually made them nostalgic for the most obvious symbols of cultural identity? What merit does the Statue of Liberty Cannon have? It could much more easily have been mounted conventionally, I'm sure.



They haven't just been divorced from Earth, they've been... whatever the word is when you're divorced and then your partner explodes. The only way to go on living is to deal in symbols and rebuild your art and culture. This isn't kindergarten. It's a grim future where fighters only know how to communicate with their fists. Everything you and your ancestors ever fought for has been turned into a professional wrestling match that levels cities.

If I want to wear a cowboy hat and make an asteroid in the shape of America, then no one's going to get in my way.
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