Topic: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN (Read 46447 times)

Friday · « **Reply #160 on:** June 24, 2012, 01:58:36 PM »

So, Lee was franky, and frank has to start off innocent.

What I'm saying is, we should probably bring him back at some point. Maybe a few more days in, so he doesn't just get turned because we all think he's inno.

gahitsu · « **Reply #161 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:19:09 PM »

Quote from: Friday on June 24, 2012, 01:58:36 PM

So, Lee was franky, and frank has to start off innocent.

What I'm saying is, we should probably bring him back at some point. Maybe a few more days in, so he doesn't just get turned because we all think he's inno.

How do we know he started innocent? I reread the rules, and he could have been Team Batdog far as I can tell. In fact, I figured that was part of the role.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #162 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:27:13 PM »

Frankenstein is a human role; it does not double up with any other roles, other than possibly the Weretiger, which can of course double with anything.

Maybe in a later game Frankenstein will be a doubling role, but for this game, Frankenstein can only be human on Day 1.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #163 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:29:53 PM »

Frankenstein is a major buff to baddies who get a hold of him and i think we should leave him in the ground. Does anyone have any information regarding who we should string up today.

gahitsu · « **Reply #164 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:34:12 PM »

Oh, I stand corrected then. I still agree with Nex that he's probably best left in the ground.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #165 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:57:37 PM »

For those who may wish to attempt it anyway, it occurs to me that I may have made the rules for how to resurrect Frankenstein somewhat unclear. Everybody who wishes to bid for Frankenstein's resurrection has to have 6 gold allocated for that purpose; however, depending on how many people contribute, it might not be necessary to pay the full amount you bid.

Friend · « **Reply #166 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:57:56 PM »

I feel like this is actually the best case scenario for the town in terms of utilizing Frankenstein. Since we lynched him day 1, we can know for sure he hasn't been turned. I suggest that we keep him dead as an emergency reserve. If the townies are ever in trouble we can bring him back to life to boost our numbers. Other than that, bringing him back to life prematurely risks compromising his innocent status. Also, the day after we bring him back to life we won't be able to trust him as a confirmed innocent

Lottel · « **Reply #167 on:** June 24, 2012, 04:01:55 PM »

Agreed.

Caithness · « **Reply #168 on:** June 24, 2012, 06:04:23 PM »

Quote from: gahitsu on June 19, 2012, 02:27:55 PM

random.org tell me to vote for Friday.

Also I had a roleplay persona planned but it's been so long I just don't care anymore.

Why were you so reluctant to vote for Friday? Is it because we waited so long for her to join and it would feel like a waste to just lynch her on the first day? I can sort of understand that, but it's not really optimal play. The fact that we waited for her has no affect on her probability of being a badguy.

Classic · « **Reply #169 on:** June 24, 2012, 06:13:53 PM »

That's why I didn't vote for Friday. even though she had the gall to catch herself using reasoning on day one as though that excused her.
Urgh. Need a hangover-cure-pint.

Kayma · « **Reply #170 on:** June 24, 2012, 06:58:53 PM »

OK, so, what have we learned today? Since there was only one death, either there was a turn or a failed turn last night. Right?

NexAdruin · « **Reply #171 on:** June 24, 2012, 07:09:07 PM »

why would there be a failed turn

Caithness · « **Reply #172 on:** June 24, 2012, 07:17:14 PM »

If Dracula tries to turn a wolf, neither of them die, but they both know each other.

Classic · « **Reply #173 on:** June 24, 2012, 07:31:38 PM »

Quote from: Caithness on June 24, 2012, 07:17:14 PM

If Dracula tries to turn a wolf, neither of them die, but they both know each other.

This could still be the headache talking, but what exactly keeps the bads from teaming up?

Ardus · « **Reply #174 on:** June 24, 2012, 07:58:11 PM »

I guess I'll chime in.

Im still suspicious of Friday. If, after all this discussion, she still wants to revive Frankenstein... I think I will have a lot more reason to be suspicious.

We should definitely leave Franken underground. If he comes back from the grave, I assume we will all be notified. If he comes back before we need him as a town, we will automatically know he is bad and should lynch him immediately.

Quote from: Classic on June 24, 2012, 07:31:38 PM

Quote from: Caithness on June 24, 2012, 07:17:14 PM
If Dracula tries to turn a wolf, neither of them die, but they both know each other.
This could still be the headache talking, but what exactly keeps the bads from teaming up?

If im not mistaken, only one team can win? One small bit of deception or "forgotten" information and suddenly, you screw over the people who helped you win 5 minutes ago. I assume they 'can' team up, but I think itd be too risky.

I dont think there was a failed turn. I think the wolves killed Nick (death) and the vamps either scried or turned the person they scried on night 0. Most of the fanged-ones dont have enough guts to blind turn for the first couple of nights, at least based on past games.

Whatever... ill type more later. Im pretty tired from today.

Syl · « **Reply #175 on:** June 24, 2012, 09:51:48 PM »

I can't help but feel that we're playing a game of castlevania and the Belmonts are winning.

Defenestration · « **Reply #176 on:** June 24, 2012, 10:02:20 PM »

I'm going to agree on the current assessment of Frankenstein. There could be several uses for reviving him late game, but nothing now. He's as good as being scum already if we dig him out anytime soon. But I'm preaching to the choir apparently.

As for lynch potential for today... there was a lot of stupid that happened Day 1. Newbie's dumb spreadsheet thing, Nickasummer's politicking, and Ardus wanting to lynch good players because they are good. And to me at least, Nickasummers being Death doesn't reveal much either. It's unlikely that he could have been found on the Vamp's night 0 scry, so his list of suspicions can't be dissected because he was probably just as in the dark as the rest of us.

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #177 on:** June 24, 2012, 10:21:53 PM »

You may be interested to know some facts! These should all be true, although the limits of human ability are such that a mistake is always possible.

The following individuals haven't been voted for in this game:
Caithness
Classic
Defenestration
Friend
NexAdruin
Syl

Did you know that McDohl has only posted once? It's true! Only once!

Meanwhile, it looks to me like NexAdruin has the most posts in the game: 20. He actually passed Nickasummers in total posts before we even reached the night phase!

Today. I am going to start by voting for dtsund, for the (only seemingly) arbitrary reason that nobody else was the first person to cast the third vote on a player. (Arguably, the second or third person to do this should be more suspicious, but I forgot to keep tracking that for the handful of people who got more than two votes, and I don't want to reread the thread again until after work tomorrow.)

jsnlxndrlv · « **Reply #178 on:** June 24, 2012, 10:23:58 PM »

Oh, also I was going to point out that Friday's gimmick this game is that she always posts consecutively, but it looks like that's no longer the case.

gahitsu · « **Reply #179 on:** June 24, 2012, 10:25:52 PM »

Quote from: Caithness on June 24, 2012, 06:04:23 PM

Quote from: gahitsu on June 19, 2012, 02:27:55 PM
random.org tell me to vote for Friday.

[NOPE]

Also I had a roleplay persona planned but it's been so long I just don't care anymore.

Why were you so reluctant to vote for Friday? Is it because we waited so long for her to join and it would feel like a waste to just lynch her on the first day? I can sort of understand that, but it's not really optimal play. The fact that we waited for her has no affect on her probability of being a badguy.

The fact that a random number generator fingered her doesn't really have any effect on her probability of being a bad guy, either.

Hey Friend, I'm curious as to what your magic Microsoft Office Eightball is telling you to do today.

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