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Author Topic: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN  (Read 46547 times)

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NexAdruin

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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2012, 05:16:46 PM »

why would the spreadsheet make you suspicious? it isn't something he thought of and whipped up since he was given his role last night. it's just a wolf strategy that he is subjecting us to with our knowledge.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2012, 05:30:55 PM »

I think it's a thought exercise. Like, if you vote to make him predictable than you're a fangy!!

But goddamn, I'm curious.  :nyoro~n:

This. I want to know, but as soon as it is explained it starts to lose value because people can game it. If it doesn't get enough votes during game, I hope it is explained post-game.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2012, 05:33:53 PM »

Likely pointless, but likely harmless as well, I think.

I'm gonna do the smart thing and continue randomly calling for zara's blood.
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gahitsu

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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2012, 05:41:52 PM »

why would the spreadsheet make you suspicious? it isn't something he thought of and whipped up since he was given his role last night. it's just a wolf strategy that he is subjecting us to with our knowledge.

It's not at all the spreadsheet that makes us nervous/suspicious/whatever; if it's done well, it's a fantastic idea and I'm surprised Destil hasn't written a program like this already. It's not even his claim that he's got one and he's going to be voting for people using it, though that could lead to some amazing cop outs later on ("I vote for gahitsu! She's totally suspicious, according to my calculations, but I can't really talk about it or explain it but I've got the numbers and I'm voting yes!").

It's just that, if you think you have a great system, and have identified some fantastic patterns that makes someone more or less likely to be a disgusting Wolfpire, then you should keep it to yourself (fake edit: as Nicka says, "oon as it is explained it starts to lose value because people can game it"). An idea like this should probably be kept to yourself. And to further clarify:

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...basically, there are certain factors that I'm convinced strongly indicate someone's on a non-innocent team. Unless and until one of those giveaway factors appears, I vote for people who contribute the most to certain voting and behavioral patterns that I feel reinforce a negative game atmosphere. However, the corrective impact of this voting methodology is blunted when the affected individuals can't tell whether I'm voting for them because I think they're evil or because I think want them to stop reinforcing negative trends... but letting people know why I'm voting for someone at any given moment would reveal the "giveaway factors" I'm on the lookout for.

I couldn't decide whether to be predictable or not. Thus: the vote.

Look, if a dude or a dudette is leaning towards some negative trends, but you don't think they're Mafia, don't vote scare them out of it. Call them out on their bullshit, explain why their bullshit stinks, and watch 'em after. If you think they're blowing bullshit because they're mafiosos, call them out on their bullshit and then vote for them.

I can understand why someone would make something like this. I can almost see why someone would claim to have it. I can't understand why someone would offer to put it up for public consumption, for any good reason. Again, probably the most positive thing I can claim is that this is a thought experiment and he's waiting to see who jumps on this like this is a good idea.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2012, 05:43:54 PM »

Fuck, I should proofread this shit before I post walls of texts. :facepalm:
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2012, 06:03:16 PM »

Know what? I've thought about it. Announcing it could easily be just a bluff to make some wolves or vampires mess up.

McDohl -- I may have missed it, but he doesnt seem to have checked in yet. Lets get rid of someone who isnt showing up. I'll retract my vote when/if he checks in.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2012, 06:09:49 PM »

Know what? I've thought about it. Announcing it could easily be just a bluff to make some wolves or vampires mess up.

McDohl -- I may have missed it, but he doesnt seem to have checked in yet. Lets get rid of someone who isnt showing up. I'll retract my vote when/if he checks in.

You are correct.
Bleck, dizzy, mcdohl, and syl have yet to check in.
That said, they may not have seen the thread yet. I'd vote people for being quiet but not for being unaware the game has even started yet.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2012, 06:12:10 PM »

Likely pointless, but likely harmless as well, I think.

I'm gonna do the smart thing and continue randomly calling for zara's blood.

I can tell you're a good person because you have the courage to stand up for your convictions.

Know what? I've thought about it. Announcing it could easily be just a bluff to make some wolves or vampires mess up.

McDohl -- I may have missed it, but he doesnt seem to have checked in yet. Lets get rid of someone who isnt showing up. I'll retract my vote when/if he checks in.

You are correct.
Bleck, dizzy, mcdohl, and syl have yet to check in.
That said, they may not have seen the thread yet. I'd vote people for being quiet but not for being unaware the game has even started yet.

I agree. We should have some grace period before we start lynching quiet people.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2012, 06:15:18 PM »

why would the spreadsheet make you suspicious? it isn't something he thought of and whipped up since he was given his role last night. it's just a wolf strategy that he is subjecting us to with our knowledge.

It's not at all the spreadsheet that makes us nervous/suspicious/whatever; if it's done well, it's a fantastic idea and I'm surprised Destil hasn't written a program like this already.

Dizzy tried doing something like that at some point, with very limited success.

Actually, where is Dizzy?
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2012, 06:15:58 PM »

now hear this

you youngin's don't have the TENACITY to fight PURE MISERY EVIL like the likes of the likes we be see'in round these parts in recent time.

why just the other day I saw a man using some kind of newfangled touchbox to talk to his misses! misses I says. more like LUCIFER. he says whats he gots is called an ipad but I knows better. The devil is at work here, and I don't mean no werewolf seer, no sir.

now get the heck off my porch! you scoundrels are worse than a pox!
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2012, 06:34:30 PM »

Yeah, I mean, come on guys, I've been working for the past ten days straight.  I only noticed this because Bronto sends me an e-mail when I get PMs.  Sometimes.

But anyway, yeah, checking in.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2012, 06:46:53 PM »

now hear this

you youngin's don't have the TENACITY to fight PURE MISERY EVIL like the likes of the likes we be see'in round these parts in recent time.

why just the other day I saw a man using some kind of newfangled touchbox to talk to his misses! misses I says. more like LUCIFER. he says whats he gots is called an ipad but I knows better. The devil is at work here, and I don't mean no werewolf seer, no sir.

now get the heck off my porch! you scoundrels are worse than a pox!

yeah ok gramma we got this
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2012, 06:51:59 PM »

I vote for Nickasummers.

No comment on the rest. Good luck guys!
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2012, 07:12:10 PM »

Everyone knows that booze is the greatest mental lubricant. There's nothing a man loves better than to get sauced and perfect a new calculus. To that end, I am also creating a spreadsheet and calling kayma a horrible pissant.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2012, 07:15:04 PM »

My super-secret rubric's analysis of the 2nd and 3rd pages says that Ardus and jsnlxndrlv are vampires and that Nickasummers and NexAdruin are wolves. It spit out gahitsu's name as being a Wolf twice.

The analysis of the first page said that BongoBill is a vampire and a double-wolf, though, so I'm throwing that data out.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2012, 07:29:38 PM »

I vote for the next person who mentions spreadsheets.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2012, 07:32:14 PM »

I vote for Dizzy for signing up for Mafia games that he hates playing.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2012, 07:36:58 PM »

I vote for the next person to say he votes for the next person who does something.

wait

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Ardus

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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2012, 07:44:36 PM »

Vote retracted


Know what? I've thought about it. Announcing it could easily be just a bluff to make some wolves or vampires mess up.

McDohl -- I may have missed it, but he doesnt seem to have checked in yet. Lets get rid of someone who isnt showing up. I'll retract my vote when/if he checks in.

You are correct.
Bleck, dizzy, mcdohl, and syl have yet to check in.
That said, they may not have seen the thread yet. I'd vote people for being quiet but not for being unaware the game has even started yet.

I agree. We should have some grace period before we start lynching quiet people.

Ouch, McDohl.

Looks like Bleck is here. So Syl is the only one left?

I better take some time and review all of the posts. Dont want any of you baddies and your bad deeds to go unnoticed!
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 1
« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2012, 03:12:49 AM »

Guild has made me suspicious of anyone that starts arguing for an extremely complex strategy, so I'm voting for jsnlxndrlv.
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