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[Defenestration]

Because it's soooooo hard to flip back a page right

[Kayma]

lol ur right easier to just defenestration

[Lottel]

That's an awful quick turn around there, Nex. Especially since the vote before it was just to pressure Ardus to talk.

[NexAdruin]

it takes more than one vote to make someone talk Lottel. also i don't know about turn around. I've always thought ardus was a little suspicious.

[Syl]

Not only are things not being said, nothing is amounting to anything.  There are far too many quiet people.

[jsnlxndrlv]

Funny you should mention that, as I was literally just in the process of typing this out:

Syl, you trouble me. Generally low post-count, greater-than-average vote-to-post ratio; you're either sufficiently low-key or sufficiently connected to have never yet been voted for, so far as I can see, and you're also someone I cannot recall playing with before. I don't know your mannerisms, Syl, and so I have no basis for comparison to determine whether this is particularly canny play brought on by an especially juicy role, or whether you just really like lurking in the background. So here's a vote to poke you into activity. Say something.

...but now that you have, let me ask you this: who shouldn't we vote for? Give me an idea of your thought process so far.

[Friend]

I am also in favor of killing the quiet people

[Envy]

Killing quiet people is generally how you don't get information, because if they are quiet then they are hiding something. Put the pressure on them and see if they crack and leak some intel. If they go for a immediate vote, press them further for more information on why they are being so quick to the gun.

[Syl]

I'm from another forum that Bongo Bill frequents.  He invited me to this forum for the last werewolf game.  I'd say that something like 90% of my total posts on this forum are between that last werewolf game and this one. 

If you want to see my role in that last game, you can check the thread.  Short version is that I was a wolf and I survived relatively long, until the same misfortune struck me that seemed to strike every special role last game.  Vamps and Werewolves killed eachoher off accidentally.  It was amusing.

Honestly the majority of my low post count is because the game started during a period of summer where I simply haven't been able to be online that much.  Entirely non-game related.  I also have a bad habit of posting when drunk, as i am now.

So far.  I don't have a bloody fucking clue who to vote for.  I voted for Friday on day one because the name put that godawful song into my head. 

I'm currently tempted to vote for Caithness based almost purely upon the fact that his(her?) current avatar is freaking me out. 

[Defenestration]

Killing quiet people is generally how you don't get information, because if they are quiet then they are hiding something. Put the pressure on them and see if they crack and leak some intel. If they go for a immediate vote, press them further for more information on why they are being so quick to the gun.

As opposed to what, *not* pressuring them? Putting votes to lynch people as if we were prepping to kill them is the primary form of pressure in these games Envy, Christ.

[Bleck]

It's also almost wholly ineffective.

[Classic]

I've been decanting a couple of ideas in my head, but they're all seeming like soured vinegar.
For a little while it seemed like Nex was overanxious to keep the day moving, but it could just be that he's always super-suspicious of Ardus's horrible fuzzy avatar.
Back to beers then.

[Ardus]

I  have already explained my crusade against Friday. Try reading the thread sometime. To make it a little easier... It is a combination of gut feeling and viewing of what feels strongly like suspicious player from someone who knows the game well. If she were info gathering, I suspect she would be trying to press for it, not sitting back and talking without actually saying anything important during Day 1. Day 2, she immediately says "lets revive Frankenstein!", in what I view as an attempt to persuade the innos to spend their gold to rev him. Too many of us instantly realized what a bad idea that was (for now, at least) that there is no way she didnt realize it unless she didnt read his role or think about it at all.

Also, I have already told you my role, if anyone was paying attention. Another reason to read the thread? I figured it would give the innos a nice little hint as I was fairly sure the bads wouldnt give a crap about converting or killing me early if they even remembered my role was active.

If you think I should vote for others, give me a reason other than something like this...

I'm voting for Gahitsu Because I am about to go have a nap and now that darn song is stuck in my head.

Voting for someone because you have a song in your head is no different than rolling a die or using a random number gen. You put no thought into it and have absolutely no reason to vote that way.

Also -- @Nex... that was a really fast turn onto me. Is the blood lust of your wolfy side hard to control? No matter. I have a feeling you are bad, too. Unfortunately, you havent acted that suspiciously in your posts so all I have to go on is gut feeling and guesses based on what I know about you.

@Defen -- I have a feeling newbies spreadsheet is a bluff or has been thrown out already. Frankly, there are a great number of factors that go into human behavior. Even if he is still using it, he is probably getting a bunch of false positives on bads. Also... I doubt he will notice when someone's behavior changes slightly due to a turn. --- Side note: I find it fairly odd that you posted your vote on me 2 hours after your previous post with only Envy's comment about the song and Nex quoting me. I dont find it suspicious as I could see myself doing the same in your position, especially if i wanted to pressure for more info.

Idr if this has been said... but keep in mind that the chances that Nick knew who his teamies were is low to say the least. I would not take his voting and suspicions as evidence for who is and who isnt a baddie.

I didnt think of this originally, but you are right.


I understand why you're saying this but I disagree. Although he didn't know who his teammates were, he knew to direct votes away from the people he thought were suspicious instead of toward them.

Seriously though... Please... please stop voting without a reason. Voting to put pressure on someone is cool. Voting because of a song in your head or contemplating voting for someone purely based on their avatar, signature, or name is frustrating and stupid.
--- Hey! I should vote for Kayma as he is the only player whose name starts with a K in this match. Im sure thats a good, well informed choice... right??? :/

@Classic - My avatar is a bobcat as that is my fursona. They are pretty neat animals.

[Ardus]

Sorry for the uber long post. Seeing as Ive been super tired and busy the last 2 days, Ive kinda had a limited time to check bronto. Construction work in our basement, university crap, dealing with social security card, etc. etc.

[Ardus]

Something I forgot to address

Vote Tally (think I got 'em all. Feel free to double check):
Name - Votes for (who 1, who 2...)

Ardus - 4 (Dstund, Defen, Nex, Classic)
gahitsu - 3 (Bleck, Stush, Caith)
NexAdruin - 2 (Zara, Lottel)
Defenestration - 1 (Kayma)
Friday 1 (Ardus)
Syl - 1 (Newbie)

[gahitsu]

Goddamn, this is frustrating. In TT Mafia we'd have 50 pages of text bombs to comb through by now.

I was thinking about how irritating that Dizzy seemed like he'd be participating in playing this game again but hasn't said anything at all today and then I found

no. telling everyone you're the weretiger so that they will get distracted from suspicious folks and bandwagon you is not helpful. it would maybe be helpful mid-game with the wolves looking for the weretiger and the town population starting to dwindle a bit, but this is day 1 and we have actual suspects.

from Nex in response to Dizzy claiming Weretigger, and since I don't see how anyone joking about being the 'tigger would be a good idea at any point in the game, and with lots of people putting bullshit votes without anything behind it - too many to vote for, in fact - I'll just cast my stone along with the rest for NexAdruin.

[Stush]

Voting for someone because you have a song in your head is no different than rolling a die or using a random number gen. You put no thought into it and have absolutely no reason to vote that way. 

I don't have any reason to vote for anyone! If it was a choice, i'd just vote for nobody until I had some kind of idea for who to vote for.

[jsnlxndrlv]

Voting for someone because you have a song in your head is no different than rolling a die or using a random number gen. You put no thought into it and have absolutely no reason to vote that way.

Just because someone says that they vote for someone for a certain reason doesn't mean they're actually voting for that person for that reason. Plus, this is Envy you're talking about. Whatever his reputation elsewhere, in werewolf around these parts it is generally understood that Envy is a dangerous and powerful player. His seemingly innocuous facade hides a ruthless talent for this game, and he's won the game seemingly out of nowhere on more than one occasion. So we listen to Envy, and we watch Envy, but neither do we believe Envy or let him get too far out of our sight, lest he stab us in the back again.

[Friend]

Newbie, why are you so eager to defend Envy, especially considering Ardus was quoting Stush? Rushing to protect your teammate like Nickasummers, perhaps?

[NexAdruin]

Goddamn, this is frustrating. In TT Mafia we'd have 50 pages of text bombs to comb through by now.

I was thinking about how irritating that Dizzy seemed like he'd be participating in playing this game again but hasn't said anything at all today and then I found

no. telling everyone you're the weretiger so that they will get distracted from suspicious folks and bandwagon you is not helpful. it would maybe be helpful mid-game with the wolves looking for the weretiger and the town population starting to dwindle a bit, but this is day 1 and we have actual suspects.

from Nex in response to Dizzy claiming Weretigger, and since I don't see how anyone joking about being the 'tigger would be a good idea at any point in the game, and with lots of people putting bullshit votes without anything behind it - too many to vote for, in fact - I'll just cast my stone along with the rest for NexAdruin.

you just voted for me because I told someone that joking to be the weretiger was bad in this situation and you agreed with that assessment but then you went on to say that trying to trick bads was bad. Then you jumped on as the 3rd in a line of 2 and said you were "casting your stone along with the rest."

there were, in fact, more votes for you at the time than there were for me. It's kind of like you're trying too hard to seem like an innocent sheep going with a herd that doesn't actually exist.