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[Friend]

Voting for someone because you have a song in your head is no different than rolling a die or using a random number gen. You put no thought into it and have absolutely no reason to vote that way. 

I don't have any reason to vote for anyone! If it was a choice, i'd just vote for nobody until I had some kind of idea for who to vote for.

Now this is just crazy talk. Assuming there was a vote to lynch no one, every day we chose that option would be another night of kills and turns. Besides a select few situations, the no lynch isn't very useful. The fact that you're in favor of a no lynch makes you very suspicious.

also, defenestration, didn't you say you'd vote for anyone who advocated for a no lynch option?

also also, it seems everyone has forgotten about Mcdohl, who's only posted like one time.

[Syl]

Who is McDohl and why are they not saying anything?

[Bongo Bill]

Current vote tallies:
Ardus: 3
gahitsu: 3
NexAdruin: 3
Defenestration: 1
Friday: 1
jsnlxndrlv: 1
McDohl: 1
Syl: 1

Day 2 will end in a few hours, unless somebody wishes to use their Hammertime to extend it by 24 hours. If nobody reaches 8 votes, then I'll choose whoever has the most votes at that time, and ties will be broken by random number.

[Stush]

Now this is just crazy talk. Assuming there was a vote to lynch no one, every day we chose that option would be another night of kills and turns. Besides a select few situations, the no lynch isn't very useful. The fact that you're in favor of a no lynch makes you very suspicious.

I think it's pretty suspicious that you think it's suspicious that I'd rather avoid lynching people if I could!

[Friend]

Well it's nice that you don't want to lynch others, but we're not going to win with that attitude.

[Stush]

Yeah, i'm just saying, it's too early for me to have any decent idea of who to vote for, the best I can hope for is random luck.

[Caithness]

So is the theme of this game going to be that we've all got a team of mathematicians drumming up equations to point us in the right direction or what.

If you're suspicious of someone, call them the fuck out. Don't say "I'm suspicious of 5 people right now because of these factors I'm not telling anyone about." Not telling the town who is suspicious and why isn't a good way to help the town.

okay whatever Ardus let's go

Okay, gahitsu helped me notice something suspicious here. In the first post you rag on Newbie for not providing reasoning behind his votes, and in the second you don't provide a reason for your vote. Then I went back and read all of your posts in the thread so far, and they paint a picture of someone trying too hard to mask his villainy.

So I'm moving my vote of of her and onto you, NexAdruin.

[Bleck]

Moving a vote onto NexAdruin for doing something that every other poster has done is a lot of things, and "suspicious" is one of them.

[Caithness]

Every other player has hypocritically done something they told Newbie not to do?

[Defenestration]

I think it's pretty suspicious that you think it's suspicious that I'd rather avoid lynching people if I could!

No Lynch votes are *always* a losing proposition. We ascertain nothing during the day, and the scum gets a night phase free to further whittle down inno numbers in return. Ruthlessness is necessary for town victory. Some innocents will be caught in the fire almost surely, but letting the chance go by to kill a wolfpire is beyond foolish. I will vote immediately for anyone that seriously lobbies for one.

Keep spouting that sort of empty minded drivel and you'll be the one hanging at the gallows.

Anyway, that stupidity aside I have my eyes on Envy, NexAdruin, Newbie, and Ardus. Dizzy made me very uneasy during day one. I wish he posted today, but I don't know if I actually suspect him of anything yet. Ardus did explain his logic, so I'll drop my vote like I said I would and go with NexAdruin. He actually contacted me privately earlier this day and offered and claimed nothing and begged for something in return. Caitness's observation also rings true. Let's string 'im up!

[Defenestration]

Just because someone says that they vote for someone for a certain reason doesn't mean they're actually voting for that person for that reason. Plus, this is Envy you're talking about. Whatever his reputation elsewhere, in werewolf around these parts it is generally understood that Envy is a dangerous and powerful player. His seemingly innocuous facade hides a ruthless talent for this game, and he's won the game seemingly out of nowhere on more than one occasion. So we listen to Envy, and we watch Envy, but neither do we believe Envy or let him get too far out of our sight, lest he stab us in the back again.

I just caught this. Envy isn't some fucking mafia mastermind. The win you refer to in VvW8 was completely bumbling at best. He admitted to stealing the pollbox and interceptor from Lyrai as random chance and not his intention because he thought he would have the ability to *steal her night power.* Which would not have won him the game either since he would have been dead the next day phase. In VvW9 his first purchase was Interceptor no doubt only because it won him the last game, discounting the fact that it is *literally useless* for the Weretiger. What is your game exactly, talking up Envy for literally no reason? He wasn't the topic of conversation, so why would you bring him up? If he was on your team you would not try to be selling him as a legitimate threat, but doing the opposite. The hell are you on about?

What I WILL give you is that I also think he is up to something. Envy hasn't stated a single useful or sensible thing and his posting level is a bit below average. Not that I expect much, but come on Envy, speak up. Let's hear it.

[NexAdruin]

What's that put me at, 5? I don't really know what I could be saying to make myself seem like the innocent that I am, which kinda sucks because I was hoping to be a power player in this game despite my lack of power. Also, when I was calling out Newbie I wasn't calling him out for random voting. I was calling him out for voting and saying "I have reasons but they're too secret to share so just trust me on this." Just seems suspicious to me. I don't care if people use dice or whatever to pick a vote, because it's just a vote and they can be changed. I care when people act like there's a reason for their vote but they won't say why. Just rubs me the wrong way.

My vote on Ardus was made in haste because I wanted to get the day rolling and I think Ardus has been suspicious. I'm also suspicious of Envy, who is really quiet compared to his usual self and I think that might be a tell. I left my vote on Ardus for a day(ish) because I didn't want to flop my vote around all willy nilly and seem desperate for a lynch.

If it isn't too late I'd like to use my hammertime right now but in 3 more votes i'm dead anyway and the day is over so whatevs.

[NexAdruin]

Also it is true that I contacted Defenestration privately because he seemed innocent and I was hoping to make some contacts and feel out information. Again, I wanted to be a power player even though I didn't have any powers. I contacted some other people too but if they feel the need to disclose that information I'll let them do it.

[NexAdruin]

Also Stush I don't know if you're innocent or not but my first game here I tried to play "innocent until proven guilty" and mostly I was doing that because I was a bad and I was trying not to lynch bads. In real life you probably don't want to kill off random people and hope you hit the right one with some accuracy but when you have a long list of suspects you have to start eliminating choices and in Mafia/werewolf lynching people is one of the ways to do it.

[Ardus]

What's that put me at, 5? I don't really know what I could be saying to make myself seem like the innocent that I am, which kinda sucks because I was hoping to be a power player in this game despite my lack of power.

>Hoping to be power player
>Has no power
What?

I'm also suspicious of Envy, who is really quiet compared to his usual self and I think that might be a tell.

Envy is always quiet. He gets lynched or gets a LOT of votes during day 1 due to lack of posting.

If it isn't too late I'd like to use my hammertime right now but in 3 more votes i'm dead anyway and the day is over so whatevs.

The last 3 votes havent come yet. I was up to 4 for a time and havent been lynched yet. At 6 or 7, the wolves/vamps could hammer the vote and kill you off without drawing much attention. I am going to wait and decide If I want to vote for you later tonight.

[Bongo Bill]

If it isn't too late I'd like to use my hammertime right now but in 3 more votes i'm dead anyway and the day is over so whatevs.

The time limit has been extended by 24 hours. If, however, any player reaches the requisite number of votes (8) before that time, the day will still end.

Current vote tally:
NexAdruin: 5
gahitsu: 2
Ardus: 1
Defenestration: 1
Envy: 1
Friday: 1
jsnlxndrlv: 1
McDohl: 1
Syl: 1

[gahitsu]

What's that put me at, 5? I don't really know what I could be saying to make myself seem like the innocent that I am, which kinda sucks because I was hoping to be a power player in this game despite my lack of power.

>Hoping to be power player
>Has no power
What?

I think he means he wanted to be a significant force in Mafia, sledgehammering the other teams, but wasn't given the power role means to do so.

Quiet ass motherfuckers better get in here soon.

[Envy]

Newbie isn't so much defending me as pointing out my usual game strategy, which is no strategy whatsoever. In before "lol that's suspicious."

[Friday]

Day 2 isn't much better than Day 1 in terms of being able to shoot anywhere that isn't the dark. NexAdruin may or may not be innocent, but at this point I think his death will give us the most information, since quite a few people have been both pushing for and pushing against his lynch.

Ardus is suspicious of me because I wanted to res Lee-Ham, because I asked Bongo directly via IRC if Frankenstein was an overlapping role or had to be innocent. After he answered that he had to be innocent, I suggested we res him after a few more days had passed, not immediately. Ardus is framing it like I wanted to res him immediately, which is either

1. Deliberate misinformation
2. hyberbole

I don't know Ardus very well, so it's hard for me to read him.

[Friday]

Also, I should say that Nex directly contacted me via IRC and asked if I was inno. He was the only person to do so so far. Grilling someone one on one like that IS something I have done as an innocent, but as he was sort of defending my lack of posting day 1, it seemed a bit... odd.

Also, the reason I double or even triple post in wolf games a lot is because I can't edit my posts in wolf games (that being against the rules, natch) and I almost always think of more shit to say after a post.