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Author Topic: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN  (Read 46529 times)

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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #600 on: July 13, 2012, 11:08:56 PM »

Goddamn it. I Have no idea of what's going on. The situation is so messed up for me right now that I'm.. well, I'm starting to think of going for ideas that would seem pretty ridiculous at any other time.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #601 on: July 13, 2012, 11:24:23 PM »

Okay, I'm in, changing my vote to Laserbeing, If it's a choice between dying and dying while doing something insane to try win, I'm always for the second choice.

Lee, you're frankenstein, so you'll be fine, you should vote for yourself too, and we can have a party afterwards, with skeletons on motorbikes.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #602 on: July 14, 2012, 12:45:39 AM »

Yes, by all means, let's take the advice of the goddamn weretiger
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #603 on: July 14, 2012, 01:35:56 AM »

It's what he's been doing all game, why would he stop now? Logic is not his strong suit apparently. Or acting. Worst vampire ever, should have pressed the issue and had Newbie turn McDohl then like I was saying.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #604 on: July 14, 2012, 08:51:46 AM »

Yes, by all means, let's take the advice of the goddamn weretiger

Yes, by all means, let's take the advice of the goddamn vampires

It's what he's been doing all game, why would he stop now? Logic is not his strong suit apparently. Or acting. Worst vampire ever, should have pressed the issue and had Newbie turn McDohl then like I was saying.

You make it sound as if I've been screwing the innocents this entire game. Besides voting with Classic, what have I done that wasn't in the town's favor? If he wants to win as an innocent I am legitimately his best bet.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #605 on: July 14, 2012, 08:42:52 PM »

Just for the record, I am totally ok with Friend's plan to murder me (again). I don't think I can self-vote though!
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #606 on: July 14, 2012, 09:02:18 PM »

You do realized that you're the deciding vote, right?
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #607 on: July 14, 2012, 09:58:30 PM »

...whatever, I tried. defenestration
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #608 on: July 14, 2012, 10:02:45 PM »

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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #609 on: July 14, 2012, 10:12:37 PM »

laserbeing
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #610 on: July 14, 2012, 10:14:22 PM »

Laserbeing <3
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #611 on: July 15, 2012, 12:18:34 AM »

...Okay. You kill LaserBeing again. He's still Frankenstein. If the game is still going on by then, then you can pay 6 gold on Night 8, after he has been dead for one full night, to resurrect him as early as Day 9.

Night actions and bids, everybody!
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: Day 7
« Reply #612 on: July 16, 2012, 01:44:25 AM »

Day 8 dawns! Friend is dead. He was the Weretiger and the Devil.

At this point, there are four players alive. None of them is a weretiger, and three of them are nosferatus. You know what that means!

NOSFERATUS WIN
CONGRATULATIONS TO:
jsnlxndrlv, Dracula
Defenestration, Orlock
Zaratustra, Vigilante, turned Night 1
Classic, Ninja, turned Night 2
Lottel, Oracle, turned Night 3
dtsund, Seer and Master Vampire, turned Night 5
Stush, Private Investigator, turned Night 7
Nickasummers, Death

CONDOLENCES TO:
Ardus, the Gravedigger
Bleck, an Innocent who began the game with an item
Caithness, a Lycanthrope
Envy, a Lycanthrope
Friend, the Weretiger Devil
gahitsu, the Vampire Hunter, turned into a Lycanthrope on Night 5
Kayma, a Lycanthrope
LaserBeing, Frankenstein, who was an innocent human all along
McDohl, the Wolfsbaner
NexAdruin, an ordinary Innocent
Syl, a Lycanthrope

Additionally, Friday and I have decided that Dizzy (in this game a vanilla innocent) will be banned from future Brontoforumus werewolf games due to unsportsmanlike conduct.

I'll be writing up some observations in the future, but ask me anything now.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN
« Reply #613 on: July 16, 2012, 02:00:03 AM »

Whoah, dtsund was the master vampire? I guess we screwed up pretty bad.

Gosh darn it, I guess our plan didn't work. Oh well, Good work, guys. <3

You should totally replace my name with lee's on the congratulations bit, I didn't really do anything but mess up a lot. Just pretend he got turned that last night instead.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN
« Reply #614 on: July 16, 2012, 02:23:24 AM »

I have to admit, I would not have led the vampires into ignoring Friend for as long as we did if I knew that vampires could night kill innocents without a sacrifice. Using Friend to play chicken with the wolves sure made an interesting metagame, but every day he went unlynched, I was more and more confused.

Let's be straight, if you think it might even be *SORTA* close to the endgame and you know the weretiger, you *should* lynch him. The first 3 days if he's outed, sure, that's a distraction for the bad teams and you can leave him be. But day 5 and you guys don't go for it? The hell. If you got the weretiger, the innocents would have stood a much better chance of winning.

And Friend, I don't know how you got so many to buy into your bullshit after you were outed for *three days straight,* but I respect that.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN
« Reply #615 on: July 16, 2012, 02:26:22 AM »

Was the rules document unclear on the point of vampire night kills? I'll amend it to be more obvious.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN
« Reply #616 on: July 16, 2012, 02:43:03 AM »

Why would the innocents have stood a better chance of winning if the weretiger wasn't about, though?
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN
« Reply #617 on: July 16, 2012, 02:49:54 AM »

MVP: dtsund for excellence in the field of strategic analysis and coordination despite the fact that his first two scries targeted someone who died the same night. It was a hard decision, because most of the Nosferatus played really well. Defenestration managed the thread's opinion like a pro, and jsnlxndrlv got some tremendous momentum going, so this was a tough choice.

Early in the game I was expecting a Lycanthrope victory, because every single auction house item on night 1 was won by a vampire, Death was killed, and the baner never found anybody whom he trusted to defend. If Caithness had remained alive, maybe their luck wouldn't have run out.

Friend was extraordinary as a Weretiger, playing all the sides against each other, but the game dragged on a bit too long for it to pan out.

I think the innocents never really had a chance in this game. No innocent bloc ever coalesced, the items were consistently controlled by the bad teams, and Dizzy's pointless gambit (n.b. I asked him why he claimed weretiger and he said for no particular reason; apparently he found some way to be bored in a game like this) cost a valuable day of discussion that also backfired against the werewolves.

By the end, all living players had nearly perfect information. Not a single player with repeatable seer-like powers ever died, and the Scry-Sucking Crystal Ball was in evil hands. This was highly anomalous and allowed for some very interesting strategies.

I'm proposing the addition of a new innocent role: the Body Double, who can target one person per night and becomes the target of any other night actions targeting that person. (Body Double X targets Player Y; Seer W targets Player Y and learns that X is the Body Double; Killer Z targets Y and X dies.) This will mainly serve to keep innocents from self-destructing.

The new werewolf-vampire interactions tested in this game never came into play; at no point did a werewolf or a vampire ever target each other. We also never got to see how Death turned out, how the rebalanced Lightsaber worked, or what effect the weretiger turning rules had. Oh well!

All feedback is appreciated.
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN
« Reply #618 on: July 16, 2012, 02:54:33 AM »

Why would the innocents have stood a better chance of winning if the weretiger wasn't about, though?

Because it's an obstacle to innocent victory as well, you gain consensus easier in a game without a late game town bloc (like this one), and votes for or against him aren't really telling information because everyone except the weretiger himself needs it dead, and every scrap of public information is what the road to innocent victory is paved upon. If you killed the weretiger on day five, you would have killed me instead the next, and from then on every remaining bad would be public knowledge.

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and Dizzy's pointless gambit (n.b. I asked him why he claimed weretiger and he said for no particular reason; apparently he found some way to be bored in a game like this)

Wait, so was he lying about Syl contacting him?
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Re: Nosferatus vs. Lycanthropes IX point V: NOSFERATUS WIN
« Reply #619 on: July 16, 2012, 02:58:43 AM »

Nobody contacted him at all.
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