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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2012, 06:33:17 AM »

Their mommies would be mad.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2012, 06:36:11 AM »

You know why erotic games can never succeed on Steam?

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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2012, 06:44:30 AM »

Equal parts horrifying and hilarious.  Sign me up!
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2012, 06:45:56 AM »

I would play both of those games.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2012, 07:30:45 AM »

I refuse to play with cannibal queens that are even a little legal.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2012, 07:34:09 AM »

No but seriously fuck Steam for not letting us have the porn version of Racettear.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2012, 07:37:34 AM »

*Mongrel logs onto steam*
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2012, 07:51:45 AM »

No, Stush. Mongrel's trying to pretend he's normal.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2012, 08:06:37 AM »

Why would you want to be normal? Normal people are laaame!
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2012, 08:35:39 AM »

No, Stush. Mongrel's trying to pretend he's normal.

Trying to convince anyone that I'm normal is a losing proposition... it's just that TF2's the only thing I ever play on Steam  ( ._.)

Anyway, point being that a platform that defaults to announcing what you're playing to everyone on your friends list the instant you play it (and lists your in-game achievements publically!) might not be the best platform to distribute erotic games.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2012, 09:19:36 AM »

I dunno. There are people who are eager to share their achievements in Corruption of Champions.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2012, 09:21:37 AM »

Now all I can think of is horrible names for porn game achievements.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2012, 09:28:39 AM »

"Watch out - it spits!"

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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2012, 11:53:17 AM »

Yeah man I can't imagine what it'd be like to let other people know I played a game and at some point the characters did erotic things and/or their moral values clashed with my own.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2012, 11:55:26 AM »

Doom provides the most compelling argument.
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2012, 01:09:08 PM »

You know, when I call people at work to ask why they're stealing cable, they're not embarassed by that. It's when you ask them "So who ordered, ah, let me see here... Chocolate Cum Garglers on pay per view?" that they quietly drop the call.

But I suppose they were just watching a movie with "different moral vaues than their own". I mean come on. We don't need to spend time establishing that most people who consume porn prefer to do so privately. I didn't think that anyone was going to argue with that idea.

Anyway, to be a little more fair, are we talking about stuff that's basically softcore "eroticism" (which many existing games already flirt with), or are we talking about straight-up porn games (which is what this game seems to be, based on the screenshots)?
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2012, 05:37:13 PM »

Initially I was under the impression that this was the case of softcore eroticism, but even if it's not I don't think they should be barred entry into a digital marketplace. It might be appropriate for Steam to make a gated section of their service for these titles, but if this is something the community wants to see I think there's an obligation to let these products exist for consumption. I'm not suggesting a flash game of a pornstar getting boned is appropriate or should end up on steam - but this is why Greenlight exists.

There's also a pretty compelling argument that there's games that will literally allow you to murder police with a purple dildo and throw their bodies into a trash compactor, which while cartoony and played up for laughs is a lot more offensive than a lady's breasts.

Getting back to a point Classic made earlier:
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Seventy-three percent of all games sold in 2011 were rated "E" for Everyone, "T" for Teen, or "E10+" for Everyone 10+. For more information on game ratings, please see www.esrb.org.

This is true, but a lot of this is because game developers bend over backwards to get a T rating and retail outlets shy away from putting mature titles on prominent display. And in the case of games that manage to get an A-O rating, there is no major distributor of software titles in the United States that distributes A-O titles in a brick and mortar environment. For mainstream game developers, getting an A-O rating is a death sentence and in some cases the politics behind getting the rating you want involves complex politics and often greasing palms - as was the  much-publicized case with Oblivion. In the past, 'erotic' PC games had to be purchased in magazines and catalogs and as a result they tended to appeal only to the main porn buying audience. Japanese erotic games appeal to a wider base of players, though, and while some of them are indisputably porn ("extraction games") some of them have rich gameplay elements (the Rance games, as we saw from Doom's LP) and in-depth stories (any of the Type-Moon games) and while those elements could be introduced by cutting the erotic elements and releasing them that way, I feel like that's unnecessary censorship and it would certainly make some of these studios hesitate at licensing their game to American developers.

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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2012, 05:46:38 PM »

I don't want to know what "Extraction games" are, do I?
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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2012, 05:56:51 PM »

I don't want to know what "Extraction games" are, do I?

It's a term I've heard used to describe games that exist for the sole purpose of bringing the consumer to

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Re: Steam: Not So Steamy
« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2012, 06:10:40 PM »

Getting back to a point Classic made earlier:
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Seventy-three percent of all games sold in 2011 were rated "E" for Everyone, "T" for Teen, or "E10+" for Everyone 10+. For more information on game ratings, please see www.esrb.org.

This is true, but a lot of this is because game developers bend over backwards to get a T rating and retail outlets shy away from putting mature titles on prominent display. And in the case of games that manage to get an A-O rating, there is no major distributor of software titles in the United States that distributes A-O titles in a brick and mortar environment. For mainstream game developers, getting an A-O rating is a death sentence and in some cases the politics behind getting the rating you want involves complex politics and often greasing palms - as was the  much-publicized case with Oblivion. In the past, 'erotic' PC games had to be purchased in magazines and catalogs and as a result they tended to appeal only to the main porn buying audience. Japanese erotic games appeal to a wider base of players, though, and while some of them are indisputably porn ("extraction games") some of them have rich gameplay elements (the Rance games, as we saw from Doom's LP) and in-depth stories (any of the Type-Moon games) and while those elements could be introduced by cutting the erotic elements and releasing them that way, I feel like that's unnecessary censorship and it would certainly make some of these studios hesitate at licensing their game to American developers.

I believe J-List does a tidy profit releasing those games digitally and on disc, so there is a market.

Also, I'm pretty sure "extraction games" are the ones where you have an arousal-meter or whatever and you have to stimulate the girl to a certain point before moving on to the next action.

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Or what Shinra just said.
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