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[Ocksi]

What more explanation is there?

Ardus played like a dope on day 1. Dopey players tend to be bad players over-reaching.
Kazz hasn't done anything to deserve votes but say "we had an oracle who voted for someone. That's our best evidence."
Beat Bandit is playing a little dopey, as well, but contrary to Ardus, he's not acting super confident behind his idiocy. He just seems like he's making a mistake.
And our one piece of evidence so far is that an Oracle voted for Lottel, so he is as likely to be bad as anyone else.

[the asshole you hate]

Lottel actually has some reason to be voted for.

Can someone ANYONE explain the reason? Envy clearly said he had no idea who to vote for. Are we saying we think he was lying? I cannot fathom a purpose for that.

Let's make what happened with beat bandit a reminder to take our time on lynches. Quick to wagon, slow to hang is the secret to finding scum. I'd be willing to go onto beat bandit if nobody wants to kill Kazz with me.

[Lottel]

I really need to defend myself?

Envy hates me. This is a known fact on the board. He always votes for me.


As for who to vote this round, I'm currently leaning towards Nex for the  reasons Buh Bandit listed and towards Grath on a gut feeling. But the gut feeling could just because he's new and trusts Guild in a game of Wolf.

But day is young and drinks are in hand so I won't vote just yet.

[Romosome]

So little information to go on.

Shall we kill Lottel, for being indicated by the Oracle before he died?

Or shall we kill Kazz, for being so eager to point fingers?

In times of uncertainty, people will always need certain comforts. A businessman knows you can rely on the familiar.

Guild. See, wasn't that refreshing?

[Friend]

Fair enough, I retract my vote..
However, I have to disagree with your points, mainly because your reasoning is based on your perception of player's posts rather than things like finding inconsistencies or slip ups. How you define a dope or how you perceive a bad player to act is going to be different from me, obviously, so while I guess I can see your point of view... I think you're wrong.

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Lottel are you fucking kidding me. I didn't say anything earlier because I didn't think anyone would take Beat Bandit seriously. But really? Look at this reasoning:

I promise I just got home and this isn't a kneejerk, but Nex is still the dude that voted for himself then immediately switched to the person with the most votes (Envy) after other people decided to agree with him.

He is also now just using a few of the words that Caithness used recently to support a new vote.

I guess I can see the point though. If I was death or the devil and night 0 scryed the oracle, the best way to help my team would be wait until seven other random people happen to vote for him anyway and then vote myself.

He has two arguments against Nex here (I'm disregarding the death/devil point since it's already been addressed. Also, I didn't really understand what he was implying with that hypothetical scenario.):

1) I promise I just got home and this isn't a kneejerk, but Nex is still the dude that voted for himself then immediately switched to the person with the most votes (Envy) after other people decided to agree with him.


No shit he was going to switch his vote to Envy. Who wants to die on day one? It's not like he was voting for himself because he really wanted to die. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to assume that Nex's self vote was an attempt at humor - which, for some reason everyone took seriously?

2)He is also now just using a few of the words that Caithness used recently to support a new vote.

....Everyone does this. After all, the only reason we're all in a fuss about Lottel right now is because Envy voted for him. You don't neccessarily have to come up with a new reason to vote for someone if you think they're suspicious.

I'm all for voting for suspicious people. But... these aren't even legitimate reasons.

Grath voted for Lottel when he had the most votes then changed his vote to Kazz when he had the most votes.

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...I spent a lot longer on this post than I had anticipated.

[NexAdruin]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to assume that Nex's self vote was an attempt at humor - which, for some reason everyone took seriously?

I went to Random.org and put in 1-26 and got a 10. I didn't actually think it would matter, because opening votes never matter.

[Grath]

I really need to defend myself?

Envy hates me. This is a known fact on the board. He always votes for me.


As for who to vote this round, I'm currently leaning towards Nex for the  reasons Buh Bandit listed and towards Grath on a gut feeling. But the gut feeling could just because he's new and trusts Guild in a game of Wolf.

But day is young and drinks are in hand so I won't vote just yet.

It's more that I have no idea about the typical metagame of these Mafia games (most of the games I've ever played had, y'know, only one scum team, and like two innocent roles) and also because I know just enough about these games to know that for some reason people vote for / distrust / dislike Guild. So yeah, I totally trust Guild. None of this post is sarcasm. 

Fair enough, I retract my vote..
However, I have to disagree with your points, mainly because your reasoning is based on your perception of player's posts rather than things like finding inconsistencies or slip ups. How you define a dope or how you perceive a bad player to act is going to be different from me, obviously, so while I guess I can see your point of view... I think you're wrong.

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Lottel are you fucking kidding me. I didn't say anything earlier because I didn't think anyone would take Beat Bandit seriously. But really? Look at this reasoning:

I promise I just got home and this isn't a kneejerk, but Nex is still the dude that voted for himself then immediately switched to the person with the most votes (Envy) after other people decided to agree with him.

He is also now just using a few of the words that Caithness used recently to support a new vote.

I guess I can see the point though. If I was death or the devil and night 0 scryed the oracle, the best way to help my team would be wait until seven other random people happen to vote for him anyway and then vote myself.

He has two arguments against Nex here (I'm disregarding the death/devil point since it's already been addressed. Also, I didn't really understand what he was implying with that hypothetical scenario.):

1) I promise I just got home and this isn't a kneejerk, but Nex is still the dude that voted for himself then immediately switched to the person with the most votes (Envy) after other people decided to agree with him.


No shit he was going to switch his vote to Envy. Who wants to die on day one? It's not like he was voting for himself because he really wanted to die. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to assume that Nex's self vote was an attempt at humor - which, for some reason everyone took seriously?

2)He is also now just using a few of the words that Caithness used recently to support a new vote.

....Everyone does this. After all, the only reason we're all in a fuss about Lottel right now is because Envy voted for him. You don't neccessarily have to come up with a new reason to vote for someone if you think they're suspicious.

I'm all for voting for suspicious people. But... these aren't even legitimate reasons.

Grath voted for Lottel when he had the most votes then changed his vote to Kazz when he had the most votes.

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...I spent a lot longer on this post than I had anticipated.

The real reason why I changed my vote to Kazz was because the whole "only saying werewolf" thing is, indeed, kinda sketchy weird and okay fine I voted for Lottel when the only information we had was "The oracle voted for Lottel" and only one or two other people had even posted this day. Then other people started posting and acting strange.

(If you want me to defend myself about my innocence, all I can say about my role: I AM VENGENCE I AM THE NIGHT I AM BATMAN )

[Bongo Bill]

Batman is not the only person who is both vengeance and the night, but Dracula is as well. Your inability to resist including oblique hints in all of your posts has doomed you, Grath!

But seriously, Beat Bandit did not understand my implication that a wolfpire does not need to have a scry in order to know that Envy was not on his team.

[Friend]

Grath, that was not a serious accusation.

Also, ...I thought Grath was coming out as the vigilante. Also also, I did not understand your implication either.

[NexAdruin]

Grath came out as the vigilante in a way that was ambiguous and Bongo Bill pointed out that his description could have fit Dracula. I'm sure Grath didn't just come out as a vampire, because that would be stupid.

[Grath]

Grath, that was not a serious accusation.

Also, ...I thought Grath was coming out as the vigilante. Also also, I did not understand your implication either.

Grath came out as the vigilante in a way that was ambiguous and Bongo Bill pointed out that his description could have fit Dracula. I'm sure Grath didn't just come out as a vampire, because that would be stupid.

Nah, I just wanted to reference that scene. Friday's not dumb enough to give a newbie like me an actual important role.

Batman is not the only person who is both vengeance and the night, but Dracula is as well. Your inability to resist including oblique hints in all of your posts has doomed you, Grath!

But seriously, Beat Bandit did not understand my implication that a wolfpire does not need to have a scry in order to know that Envy was not on his team.

Dracula doesn't do oblique hints, Dracula does dumb stuff like "My disguise is SPELLING MY NAME BACKWARDS  "

[NexAdruin]

Roles are randomized unless it says differently somewhere else and I didn't catch it.

[Bongo Bill]

Roles are always randomized. If you don't believe me, ask somebody to tell you how many times Niku has been weretiger.

[Grath]

Roles are randomized unless it says differently somewhere else and I didn't catch it.

Oh. Anyways: No, I'm not claiming to be the vigilante. Just a Batman fan who didn't realize just how quickly things can be misinterpreted.

[Defenestration]

I don't know about Ardus. I first had him pegged as scum defending a teammate on day one, but Envy was innocent. He could honestly just be misguided from what I've seen so far. As for Envy voting for Lottel, I maintain that treating Envy as anything except a completely random loose cannon in any of his actions is a mistake. His logic is impenetrable from the outside, kind of like not revealing who his scry was when he knew he was dying. At the same time, Kazz's idea to vote for Lottel based on this would be sound logic in any other situation. NexAdruin was obviously making a joke, and then jumping on the bandwagon. I see nothing suspicious about the self-vote in context.

The only people that I'm vaguely suspicious of are Beat Bandit, but for not much reason other than what is already stated, and Grath. I'm willing to see how Grath's posting and logic continues before throwing in on him though.

[Frocto]

How many votes are there on Beat now? Seems like we're going into Day 3 real fast at this rate. Be honest guys, how many wolfpires is he, I'm lost.

[NexAdruin]

I count 4.

[Frocto]

Ehnnn, I won't be sad to see him go, but I still really wanna take out Classic. I'll vote for Beat if another day passes without a lynch, though?

[François]

Maybe it's because I haven't played in a long time, but I find myself somewhat inclined to give Envy the benefit of the doubt and vote for Lottel. That said I have proven repeatedly that I am of a trusting and gullible nature and man if history is any indication the smartest move is probably to go against my initial moral impulse. So I guess I will, for better or for worse. Given that, I suppose Beat Bandit is among the least ridiculous picks at this time. That said I am open to convincing argument otherwise.

For the benefit of those among us who haven't been around for very long, I'm Zed. I started using my real name a while back but it hasn't caught on. I guess there's one diacritic too many in there.

[Ardus]

I refuse to address Ocksi. He will maintain all game that I am bad because I didnt wanna rush Day 1, in which we lynched the ORACLE instead of attempting to gain some info.

People are taking jokes way too seriously. First, it was Nex's self-vote, now Grath and the Batman thing. I'd really hate to be in front of you all at a comedy club. ;)

For now, I am laying my vote on Nickasummers. He was fairly active day 1 and is pretty silent now. Id really like to hear from him and hear his thoughts on the current discussions.