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Author Topic: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!  (Read 38458 times)

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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #160 on: March 16, 2013, 07:59:06 PM »


After you pound on Orlouge enough, he summons all three shades at once. This is bad!






The 3Mistresses attack hits everyone for quite significant damage. This attack is almost the entire reason I recruited Mesarthim -- healing four out of five party members for her maximum HP value is damned useful for recovering in a game where you can't just spread Curaga out over everyone.








Whereas some bosses demand you hit them as hard and fast as possible to defeat them as quickly as possible, you need to save your biggest attacks for when Orlouge has all three Mistresses out -- this is not the time to have to fall back on regular sword swings and gun shots!
Tower is the highest Arcane magic spell; the Tower card drains all your JP, but the more it takes, the more damage it does. It's possible to hit five-digit damage with it, making it a one-person fight winner, much like the DSC.


Ildon, Rei, and Zozma all have it. Ildon and Zozma have been fighting with the WP-powered TitasWave for the whole battle, saving their JP just for this point. Only Ildon and Rei need it, though -- the two of them together... well...






Unlike Zeromus or Kefka, Orlouge disintegrates from the inside out rather than bottom-to-top.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #161 on: March 16, 2013, 08:11:00 PM »




Well, that looks nice and cheery.










Father: Are you expecting the love of your life, mom?
Grandma: Don't embarrass your mother!




Grandma: No. You've changed a lot. You're so kind now.
Ildon: It's all because of you, Gina. Just by looking at how you live, I improved myself tremendously. I was blind but now I can see.






Gina: Princess White Rose!! You've awaken!!

There you're!

White Rose: Yes. I was finally released from the Labyrinth of Darkness. Asellus said you were worried sick about me for a long time.
Gina: Where is Lady Asellus?
Ildon: Asellus! What's taking her so long? Is she really not coming?
Zozma: She can never make up her mind.
White Rose: Don't worry, Gina. She'll come.
Gina: I hope so.




Gina: Oh, please. This is all I have left. To see your young self once a year. Your youth is my youth. Always visit me until I die.
Asellus: What are you talking about? You're in perfect health.
Gina: By the way, my grandkids are having a baby. I'm very blessed.
Asellus: That's fantastic. I could've been a great grandma like you.
Gina: I guess that's what you really wanted? To live as a human.

And you guys took that from her, with your poll votes! Your filthy, disgusting poll votes! You monsters!

Asellus: I'll be all right. Ildon, White Rose, and Zozma are always at my side.
Gina: You're fortunate to have such loyal friends. Let us all live happily, like in the days back then...

...uh, back when? Because when we met Facinaturu was a shithole and three of the five of us present were chafing unde--

Oh, right. Ending. Uh...


There we go!

Three of seven scenarios complete. And the next one...

Well, we've covered humans, mecs, and mystics...

Dammit.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #162 on: March 16, 2013, 09:04:31 PM »

Oh yes, this should be most amusing.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #163 on: March 16, 2013, 09:08:01 PM »


I hope the Mystics dressed you like that, lady.


DAT ASSELLUS


Despite what her ingame sprite looks like, she does not have a giant puffy white afro. Those are rosebuds on some sort of hat. Her actual hair is brown ingame and bright yellow blonde in this picture.

...huh, I don't have a shot of Mesarthim like the one that was used in the chapter interstitial.


How does he get his hair to do that?


She's hundreds of years old and looks only twelve. Big credit to Japan for putting her in a baggy, shapeless shrine-maiden kimono instead of... well, any outfit from the "really hundreds of years old but look twelve" Disgaea characters.


I take it all back.


Orlouge. Not much to say, we knew he was creepy all along.


...see? Creepy.

And I guess I had Mesarthim artwork after all.


Yep.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #164 on: March 17, 2013, 06:20:19 AM »

So, does Princess Lion just have her nippleless boobs hanging out? Or are they forced into some kind of weird direction to fit in those low cups?
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #165 on: March 17, 2013, 06:23:46 AM »

As far as I can tell, she shuns your puny human notions of modesty (and then probably censors made the art director just omit the nipples, because love of nipples is the root of all evil).
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #166 on: March 17, 2013, 10:43:41 AM »

The SD ending shot seems to render it as a patch of leather that's slightly browner than she is.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #167 on: March 17, 2013, 12:24:38 PM »


God damn it.















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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #168 on: March 17, 2013, 12:30:31 PM »


As though humans compulsively change clothes, never staying in the same outfit for more than a scant few minutes at a time.

Dumbass.

Anyway.




Riki: Oops, better greet him or he'll get mad again!
Riki: Good morning.
Elder: No time for that. Time is running out.

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Elder: Its power protected us from wickedness until now, but it can no longer offer us hope.




Riki sounds out the individual words, the elder chimes in when he's done because the old fart has it memorized.

Elder: If this ring has brothers, the power harnessed by all of the rings could save Margmel. Riki, take this ring and collect the rest.


There's more dialog but I'm skipping it. It's tedious.




Riki is transformed from his normal lummox form into something humanoid.


He then leaps into the portal.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #169 on: March 17, 2013, 12:39:39 PM »

Saga Frontier - Let's Swing
Music I've heard dozens of times by now, since it plays in the Scrap pub, the Nelson pub, and other areas where people might be having a good time.


Riki: What's this place? It's so alive.


Well, let's ask around.


As usual, Nakajima knows absolutely nothing outside the subjects of Shrike and robots.


bark bark

Riki: I'm not a dog. I'm Riki.
Gen: Guess I had one too many drinks... Shoo, shoo! Go away!


Riki: Boy! You're so smart. Know anything about this ring?
T260G: No data available. Inscription is in the Samuna alphabet... normally used by monsters.
Riki: Never heard of that one.

You're also given the chance to invite T260 to join, which of course we do because T260 is the best mec and we'll need a crutch for a while.


Lute joins too.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #170 on: March 17, 2013, 12:48:19 PM »


The word balloons appear, Riki's first, without a pause in between to take a screenshot. So Mei-Ling isn't being telepathic here, just snippy.

Riki: I'm looking for some. Like this one.
Mei-Ling: So am I. What a coincidence. Where are you from?
Riki: I'm Riki. I'm from Margmel. See over there! ...Now it's gone. It was floating over there just a minute ago.
Mei-Ling: Margmel... I've heard of a region that floats through dimensions. So it was true...
Mei-Ling: Then we were both brought here by the power of the rings.
Riki: You sure know lots about rings.
Mei-Ling: My name is Mei-Ling. I'm studying about rings. And where... did you get that ring?
Riki: I need to get all the rings before Margmel breaks.

I'm now to the point where "ring" doesn't even look like a real word anymore.

Mei-Ling: Breaks?
Riki: Right. It's fate, there's nothing that can be done about it.
Mei-Ling: But, you've got to do something. This is terrible!
Riki: Everyone says it's useless to try and save it. But our elder thinks we can. That's why he sent me to collect the rings.
Mei-Ling: A heavy responsibility, but I can help you. Let's try to save Margmel. I know where to find the rings.
Riki: Really, this is going to be so easy!
Mei-Ling: Easy? Why do you say that?
Riki: We'll just ask to borrow them for a while.
Mei-Ling: Listen Riki, the world's full of bad people who will take advantage of you. From now on, don't show your ring to just anyone.
Riki: What are bad people like?
Mei-Ling: Well you're going to meet one real soon. The man with the ring is true garbage.
Riki: Bad people and garbage? I can't wait.

Oh Riki. You so charmingly naive. Anyway, Mei-Ling joins the party too.


...as does Gen.


This party lineup is lookin' awfully familiar.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #171 on: March 17, 2013, 01:36:49 PM »

I choose to believe that canonically T260 gets as tired with the kids as Gen and had also become an alcoholic before joining up with Riki.
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« Reply #172 on: March 17, 2013, 01:42:32 PM »

I just passed a billboard for a children's show at the Denver Aquarium called "Mystic Mermaids". First thing to cross my mind was "But they HATE the smell of humans!"
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #173 on: March 18, 2013, 06:46:13 AM »


More tedious conversation, because we already know Caballero is a scumbag. (This despite his name translating into "gentleman". Huh.)

Anyway, he invites Mei-Ling into the back of his factory, much to the snickering of his underlings. Mei-Ling agrees. The party tries to stop her. She goes anyway. The remaining party plans a break-in of Cabellero's factory.

There, I just saved myself the better part of an hour by not transcribing the script.


T260 has a siren installed for some reason, but it does a good job getting the mooks' attention...


While Lute and Riki sneak in the back.


Meanwhile Mei-Ling is acting about like you'd expect.

HOW BOUT I SLAP YOUR SHIT
pa pa Americano


Mei-Ling thanks Lute too, and reveals that Caballero has the ring. Surprise!




Ain't give a damn.


I got enough money to equip us, now. We're making a detour.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #174 on: March 18, 2013, 07:08:44 AM »


Not that it matters for Riki personally, since monsters can only equip accessories. The only accessories available in the junk shop are Junk and BrokenBumpers, which are both useless, so this trip is mostly for Gen and T260.

And Lute and Mei-Ling... I guess.




This scenario is lookin' awfully familiar.


Right. After each battle with monsters (rather than human enemies like Swordsmen), monsters in your party are offered the chance to absorb monster abilities. In the Game Boy games that started the SaGa series proper, this was explicitly by feeding on their delicious nutrient-filled flesh.


There are multiple abilities each monster can give you. Some are okay. Earlygame ones tend to be crap, of course.




And when a monster downloads abilities, it might change form.


The bottom slot of a monster's ability list is the one that new abilities go into. Here's the thing I didn't know when I played this game back when it was new: you can rearrange those abilities out of the bottom slot to keep them. This makes monsters slightly more useful than I thought they were back when I was playing this on an actual Playstation -- but not much.

When a monster absorbs an ability, the game checks the abilities the monster knows against some predetermined lists, using a complicated system I barely understand where each ability is assigned a body part (Fang is a head attack, HeatSmash is an arm attack, Tail is a leg attack since there isn't a tail slot, and so on). If the first ability for each body part matches one of the predetermined lists, the monster changes form based on its HP.

For example, "DeathSynthesis" is the passive ability undead use to regenerate HP. It's on the transform lists for lots of undead monsters. So if a monster has Deathsynthesis on its ability list, the game will check against its HP to see what it turns into. Low HP equals a skeleton, higher HP a ghost, early-midgame HP nets you a zombie, and so on. If it has DeathSynthesis and one of Scream, Siren, or Supersonic, it turns into a GhostRider -- assuming the game doesn't check Scream first and turn your monster into a Harpy instead.

I have a mechanics guide for this and I still don't really get it. It's that needlessly complex.

Each form comes with their own HP, LP, WP, JP, and stats. They are not necessarily better than the form you just left -- Riki's Lummox form has all 7s in his base stats. The Xeno he just turned into drops his physical stats into the 1-3 range. Only WP and JP are restored upon transforming; it is quite possible to transform from a shape that has a maximum 3 LP to one that has 10 LP, but they're not refilled; it's near death already.

Oh, and every ability you absorb, whether it's forgotten later or not, increases the monster's maximum HP by 4. That's the only way monsters "level up" -- they don't grow after battle at all, except by the chance that they absorb a new ability.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #175 on: March 18, 2013, 07:13:15 AM »




Same as before, the same as before.


Mei-Ling talks him down to 100 credits, which she pays for without actually taking any money from our reserves.




End of the first burdensome, terrible chapter. The first of many.
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #176 on: March 18, 2013, 07:17:46 AM »


Whereas the Guardian ring we started with gives everyone a defense boost, the Merchant ring we just got from Caballero is able to charm all enemies and have them melee one another.


Gee Brain, whaddyawannado tonight?


Mei-Ling: ...there are many legends about a ring in Shrike, a Manhattan jewelry store has a ring for sale, a Yorkland billionaire has a ring, another guy who had a ring was lost in a ship accident, and then of course there's the prisoner serving a million-year prison sentence in Despair who's supposed to have one too.
Riki: Ahhh!! Don't tell me all at once!
Mei-Ling: Oh, sorry.


Okay. Six rings to go. You can ask Mei-Ling about them from this menu, but she doesn't say much more than "There's a legend in Shrike" or "I don't know what the guy did to get a million-year prison sentence".

So... well, hmm. Before we get started on our ring-collecting quest, I've got some other allies I want to pick up. So let's head t--






DAMMIT
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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #177 on: March 18, 2013, 07:21:30 AM »


This plays out just like it does in Emelia's scenario, or anytime you try to complete the Rune quest. Some mooks come to rob the newly-swallowed ship...


...you fight them off...


...Nomad shows up...


...Mei-Ling tells Riki not to show her the ring and ask her where to find the others... oh wait, that's new.


...some needless exposition...


...Fei-On shows up...


Mei-Ling lets one rip that's so big it needs two ellipses. I feel the same way about this whole scene.
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« Reply #178 on: March 18, 2013, 07:25:46 AM »




Mei-Ling: That's what I should be asking! You said you were leaving for Kyo to train yourself. You lying dog!
Fei-On: My ship was swallowed by Tanzer on the way to Kyo. I had no choice.
Mei-Ling: No more excuses! You never spend any time with me. You are always too busy with your training. I'm sick of waiting.

"You're always too busy getting swallowed by pandimensional monsters and desperately trying to survive in its oddly spacious bowels to spend any time with me!" God Mei-Ling, don't be such a bitch tsundere bitch.


Japanese women aren't allowed to be happy when they meet a long-lost significant other. They have to get angry and storm away. It's societal pressure to perform a certain way.

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Re: Plots to Make Fun Of: Seven of 'Em! -- Let's Play Saga Frontier!
« Reply #179 on: March 18, 2013, 07:29:54 AM »








It ain't like there are verdant, rolling hills for ranching cattle and herding sheep in here, stupid.


Girl: When will my hero, Alkaiser, come for me?


Mei-Ling: Do you know anything about it?
Fei-On: I haven't seen anyone with a ring. Why are you so obsessed with it anyway?

Riki explained to Fei-On.


Fei-On: ...find anything now. Wait... Nomad might know something about it.
Riki: Why don't we go ask Nomad?
Fei-On: That's risky. If Nomad finds out about the rings, there'll be trouble. I'll go with you.

Mei-Ling protests because tsundere, Fei-On insists he knows the way, blah blah blah.
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