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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #460 on: October 22, 2008, 11:39:59 AM »

Reports in WV of voting machines behaving as on The Simpsons.

The mere thought of this happening at all fills me with great rage.

It's worth noting that any machine that is going to be rigged for McCain probably won't advertise that to the person pressing the screen.  This sounds like an honest glitch in the system (not that that's any better, just more likely) rather than an attempt to steal the election.

It's also a good reason why people need to sit down and seriously consider why these machines need to be heavily regulated.  It makes it easier for us vote this way, sure, but they all need a serious paper trail so we can know who voted for what if there is ever doubt.  This would also go a long way towards helping ensure against massive vote fraud, as it would be harder for a machine that has to punch a card for us to generate an additional 1,000-10,000 votes.

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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #461 on: October 22, 2008, 11:42:26 AM »

I don't know about everything else, but the electronic voting machines here print a little paper receipt when you cast your ballot.  They even show it to you in a little sealed-off window before the machine shreds it faxes it to the Patriots with your name on it drops it inside its mysterious guts for your protection
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #462 on: October 22, 2008, 11:44:33 AM »

I'm in Texas, no such luck here.  When I vote, I trust the machine.

Which means Gaius Baltar in 2008.

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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #463 on: October 22, 2008, 11:45:24 AM »

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos, etc etc
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #464 on: October 23, 2008, 05:23:22 PM »

If this has been posted, I missed it, but...

Ron Howard, Andy Griffith, and Henry Winkler endorse Obama in awesomest video ever.

Meanwhile, it looks like McCain is giving up on Colorado.

Is it possible for McCain to win without Colorado?  fivethirtyeight.com says he can't win without Ohio, but I don't see anything about Colorado.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #465 on: October 23, 2008, 05:42:00 PM »

It's a terrible sign for him, but the numbers are not all that important.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #466 on: October 23, 2008, 06:56:21 PM »

It's not Ohio, Florida, or Pennsylvania, but it's decently sized for a swing state.  Course, Virginia, NC, and Indiana are bigger, and now that they're on the table and McCain's running out of money, I guess he's better off putting money into them.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #467 on: October 23, 2008, 10:16:04 PM »

Putting this here even though it could go in several other threads:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qty8kuS7Vo&eurl=http://dailykos.com/

Wow.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #469 on: October 24, 2008, 01:29:39 PM »

You know, the irony of Republicans blaming Democrats for doing exactly what the Republicans are doing was cute the first time; now it's gotten to the point where if the Reps accuse the Dems of doing something, you can just go ahead and assume the vice versa.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #470 on: October 24, 2008, 01:31:21 PM »

The Fonz endorses Obama? Election's over everyone. You can go home. ::D:
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #471 on: October 24, 2008, 01:58:44 PM »

fuck that, henry winkler is probably a scientologist
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #472 on: October 26, 2008, 03:55:09 AM »

fuck that, henry winkler is probably a scientologist

The Fonz is a Scientologist?! Beam me up!

Also: Obama's lead drops to 5 points, with a 2.9 point margin of error. That's getting within "book your flight just in case" range.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #473 on: October 26, 2008, 06:57:55 AM »

I wouldn't worry about it, too much.  For one, Reuter's has a tendency to cherry pick polls, other sites I read, like fivethirtyeight and DailyKos have him up.  They take their polls as an aggregate of all the polls, then use a weight system based on polling size and other factors to determine the value.

Just keep in mind, the media loves a narrative it can use to hook readers.  And coming into this election, a "the race is tight can McCain pull an upset" narrative is juicy news, even if they have to fudge numbers because it doesn't reflect reality.

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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #474 on: October 26, 2008, 07:09:35 AM »

It's called "Hyperbole", Constantine.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #475 on: October 26, 2008, 07:11:38 AM »

What, no really?
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #476 on: October 26, 2008, 11:01:41 AM »

CNN Headline:
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McCain says he's 'very competitive' in key states

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As Thad has noted, national polls mean dick. CNN's electoral map shows Obama clinching the Presidency without winning any toss-up states, including Ohio and Florida.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #477 on: October 26, 2008, 12:06:47 PM »

Still not impossible for McCain.  Cut a few points off Obama's lead in Virginia due to margin of error, then cut a few more off for Bradley Effect, and it could still go McCain's way.  And that's WITHOUT assuming any shenanigans.

We're not likely to see more than a couple of states reverse their current trends, but it's still possible for a game changer to occur in the next week (like the bin Laden tape right before the last election).

It's looking pretty good, but again, complacency is a bad idea.  CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #478 on: October 26, 2008, 01:01:02 PM »

This time I'm going to keep singing until the votes are counted, god damn it.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #479 on: October 26, 2008, 01:52:45 PM »

Alaska's Largest Newspaper Endorses Obama

100,000 in Denver today, thousands of others turned away.

Shocking Arizona poll from last night,

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Myers Research (D) & Grove Insight (D). 10/23-24. Likely voters. MoE 4% (No trend lines)

Likely voters

McCain (R) 44
Obama (D) 40

Early voters (34% of the sample)

McCain (R) 46
Obama (D) 47

The sample was 40 percent Republican, 33 Democratic, and 26 percent independent.

Arizona Secretary of State's office lists current registrations as 37 percent Republican, 34 percent Democratic, and 28 percent independent. The Arizona Daily Star reported another poll today from Zimmeran & Associates,

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A statewide poll taken by Tucson-based Democratic pollsters Carol and Pete Zimmerman two weeks out from the election suggests McCain's lead over Obama falls within the margin of error: 43.5 percent to 41.5 percent, with 10 percent of likely Arizona voters undecided.

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She made it all up




Bradley Effect

Did you read of the empirical study that concluded that it hasn't existed since 1996? Any thoughts on this?


it's still possible for a game changer to occur in the next week (like the bin Laden tape right before the last election).

... Which wasn't a game changer in any surmountable regard.


Obama's lead drops to 5 points, with a 2.9 point margin of error.

Folks last night were telling me to expect this poll to be parroted around today. Out of the dozens being held, Zogby has been the most unreliable batshit, but hey, Freepers need Hope too, even if they're buying the wrong brand.
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