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Sharkey

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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2008, 07:09:40 PM »

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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2008, 07:16:58 PM »

is that from mccain's campaign website
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2008, 07:19:03 PM »

Playing cell phone space invaders while overhearing a stupid argument on the train.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2008, 07:37:44 PM »

I wish that people who disagree would stop debating the things they disagree about unless they're actually trying to make a meaningful decision about something.  Because hearing a liberal and a conservative argue their viewpoints does absolutely nothing but piss both of them off.  They both go in believing that they will not be swayed, and they are both right.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2008, 07:47:34 PM »



Hey, I'm a green thing you... oh, you bastards.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2008, 04:14:06 PM »

Green Party continues to show it has no interest in being relevant by nominating Cynthia McKinney.

It's too bad.  I still think we need some viable third parties, and 8 years ago the Greens were our best shot.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #66 on: July 18, 2008, 07:31:48 PM »

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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #67 on: July 18, 2008, 09:12:11 PM »

(Will go ahead and put this in another post in case we wind up splitting off the GM conversation.)

Now who's whining?

Doubt he's actually going anywhere.  My guess is it'll be like Mark Penn: he'll "step down" but in practice just change his job title.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #68 on: July 27, 2008, 09:43:32 PM »

99 DAYS

:justasplanned: Launch the Vice-Eva.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2008, 03:47:23 PM »

...So now McCain's got an ad running that compares Obama to Britney and Paris.

Is anyone buying this, or does everybody agree that it smells like desperation?
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #70 on: July 30, 2008, 04:33:44 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHXYsw_ZDXg

Looks like desperation to me.  I would like to stress the need of combating the Offshoring Drilling myth wherever you see it.  It will no affect on gas prices for at least 10 years and I doubt it will lower it.  And really, if that's the best McCain has to take a swipe at, he's not doing so well anyway.

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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2008, 07:28:10 PM »

The ad doesn't even do that good a job of associating Obama with Spears and Hilton.  The brief clips of Spears and Hilton look more like an editing mistake.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2008, 07:44:18 PM »

...So now McCain's got an ad running that compares Obama to Britney and Paris.

Is anyone buying this, or does everybody agree that it smells like desperation?

Too early to call it desperation, but there should be a few people who should be canned after this debacle from that campaign..

That being said, the offshore drilling has more to do with being less reliant on the house of Saud for oil.  This would be good as our addiction funds wahhabism but has an obvious downside.  McCain has already stated that he won't try to directly affect the price of oil in some speeches through 'band aid' solutions.  Offshore drilling would fall in that list of such solutions considering the price of American labor.  Security - short term and longterm appear to be greater concerns in his mind.

As far as taxes go, both presidents appear to have much different ideas for how to restore the economy.  I see that point as valid as much as I would see McCain's point as valid for the time being until more details become obvious in time.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2008, 08:53:25 PM »

McCain has already stated that he won't try to directly affect the price of oil in some speeches through 'band aid' solutions.

But he was for the "gas tax holiday" this summer?  :wat:
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #74 on: July 31, 2008, 01:15:50 AM »

Too early to call it desperation,

Then what should we call it?  Whining?  Throwing a temper tantrum?  Attention whoring?

but there should be a few people who should be canned after this debacle from that campaign..

McCain was unwise in choosing the Rove team to begin with.  He saw what Rove pulled off in '04, but seems to have missed his abject failure in '06.

I belong to the club that thinks Rove's good at dirty tricks but was never actually as bright as he's been given credit for -- my favorite summary of the man was "How smart do you REALLY have to be to be Bush's brain, anyway?"

That being said, the offshore drilling has more to do with being less reliant on the house of Saud for oil.

But as you say, it has to do with a feel-good Band-Aid fix for a much deeper problem.  It's the standard Republican tactic of blaming the Democrats and government regulation for economic woes and everything else.

The trouble is that it's this same song and dance that got us into this mess in the first damn place.  And as I've said before, while the average American isn't an expert in economics, the average American DOES remember the economy was a hell of a lot better when we had a Democrat in the White House.

As far as taxes go, both presidents appear to have much different ideas for how to restore the economy.  I see that point as valid as much as I would see McCain's point as valid for the time being until more details become obvious in time.

I'm not sure what that actually means.

McCain initially opposed Bush's tax cuts, but now that he's running for President he supports them.  Again, that's something that might win over some of the true believers, but you can't win an election trying to dig your way out of a hole.  The economy's in the tank, and McCain is campaigning on continuing the policies that put us here in the first place.

Substitute any other issue for the economy and the sentence still holds.  It is not a good time to be a Republican.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #75 on: July 31, 2008, 12:10:43 PM »

I don't generally pay attention to gossip sites, but Gawker FTW on best headline with Hiltons Probably Regretting Their McCain Donations.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #76 on: July 31, 2008, 01:28:52 PM »

True best headline more far down inside article: 'Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd descended from thieves'.  Great shock!  Also, Norway number one person am descended from Viking.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #77 on: July 31, 2008, 02:31:11 PM »

I thought the Lutherans who made up the majority of the population in Norway were something entirely different from the Vikings.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #78 on: July 31, 2008, 02:44:49 PM »

...Underwear thieves?
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #79 on: July 31, 2008, 03:12:37 PM »

...Underwear thieves?

???

Profit!
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