Topic: Election 2008 (Read 63076 times)

Thad · « **on:** June 05, 2008, 12:18:19 AM »

SF Gate: Obama's gamble in debating McCain

Gist: McCain has challenged Obama to unmoderated town hall debates; Obama has accepted. This plays to McCain's strengths in that he seems to be the better off-the-cuff speaker (while Obama is unquestionably the better scripted speaker), but plays to Obama's advantage because every time the two of them stand side-by-side is to his benefit.

LA Times: Obama vs. McCain, by the map

A general rundown of the states and demographics in play. Ties into what we've been talking about lately in the Oh! Bama thread, but much more general and less subject to the unreliability of current polling.

Bottom line, I'm afraid, is the same boring canard I've been saying all this time: a hell of a lot can happen between now and November.

A² · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2008, 03:43:11 AM »

Hillary officially drops out.

Insert witty comment here about her just now realizing she can't win.

Classic · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2008, 07:12:14 AM »

Not in a man's world.

Thad · « **Reply #3 on:** June 06, 2008, 11:23:49 PM »

I just got spam with the subject line "Re: a naked democrat hottie".

I gotta say, if spammers are throwing the word "democrat" around with "wet" and "9inch", that's a pretty good sign.

TA · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2008, 09:13:14 AM »

Not sure if this should go here or What The Fuck, but ... what the christing fuck, man. John McCain, you are a repugnant little shit.

Brentai · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2008, 10:10:40 AM »

Quote from: Thad on June 06, 2008, 11:23:49 PM

I just got spam with the subject line "Re: a naked democrat hottie".

Hey, they just used the word "democrat" as an adjective!

Thad · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2008, 10:25:56 AM »

Quote from: TA on June 10, 2008, 09:13:14 AM

Not sure if this should go here or What The Fuck, but ... what the christing fuck, man. John McCain, you are a repugnant little shit.

I don't generally consider things that happened in 1980 to be big news. Is this something that the public at large is not aware of? Because it's pretty well-known here in Arizona.

Quote from: Change it to Brentai on June 10, 2008, 10:10:40 AM

Quote from: Thad on June 06, 2008, 11:23:49 PM
I just got spam with the subject line "Re: a naked democrat hottie".

Hey, they just used the word "democrat" as an adjective!

GOD DAMMIT BRENT

NOW I HATE SPAMMERS BECAUSE OF YOU

Brentai · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2008, 10:43:59 AM »

Finally, an accomplishment I can be proud of.

TA · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2008, 10:56:41 AM »

Never heard of it before today, Thad. It's not common knowledge that shortly after he found out his first wife had been in a car crash and wasn't a model anymore, he ditched her for a younger, richer woman who was still a model.

Thad · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:11:55 AM »

Hm. Wonder what impact it'd have if the average voter knew. Maybe not much, since it was nearly 30 years ago, but it could hurt him among the middle America demo I suppose. A similar story helped kill Newt Gingrich's career, but it was ACTUALLY HAPPENING at the time.

Anyway. This is one of those things where I'm in something of a bubble here, having spent my life in Arizona. There may be plenty of other things that are common knowledge here but not in the rest of the country. (Easy one: he votes with Bush 90% of the time.)

TA · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:14:24 AM »

W...what are you talking about, Thad? McCain's a maverick!

Yeah, it's not really news, but it is a largely unknown aspect of his character that is pretty relevant, what with insistence that we stay the course in Iraq even if it looks bad and not bail out.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:40:01 AM »

No, based upon his character McCain is likely to abandon the Iraq War once he's sees it's been in an accident, and start focusing on a younger, prettier war.

Iraq, I'm looking at you.

TA · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2008, 12:51:47 PM »

Quote from: Thad on June 10, 2008, 11:11:55 AM

Anyway. This is one of those things where I'm in something of a bubble here, having spent my life in Arizona. There may be plenty of other things that are common knowledge here but not in the rest of the country. (Easy one: he votes with Bush 90% of the time.)

Yeah, if there's any other things like that - y'know, the location of his secret prostitute graveyard or something - they would be good things to publicize.

Thad · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2008, 01:06:05 PM »

Probably Sedona.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2008, 02:13:40 PM »

Maybe his current wife will be horribly disfigured in a car accident, causing him to leave her for a younger, non-mangled woman.

Brentai · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2008, 02:22:19 PM »

It just occurred to me that I haven't heard anyone point out that John McCain is more "Irregular" than "Maverick".

Mongrel · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2008, 02:45:00 PM »

I did enjoy the H. Ross Perot denouncement.

Norondor · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2008, 04:25:01 PM »

Quote from: Change it to Brentai on June 10, 2008, 02:22:19 PM

It just occurred to me that I haven't heard anyone point out that John McCain is more "Irregular" than "Maverick".

Shinra · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2008, 04:49:08 PM »

Quote from: Ted Belmont on June 10, 2008, 02:13:40 PM

Maybe his current wife will be horribly disfigured in a car accident, causing him to leave her for a younger, non-mangled woman.

as long as the cunt doesn't cake on the makeup like some kind of trollop, I think McCain's wife will be fine.

Thad · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2008, 12:14:41 AM »

Something I said a few days ago in another thread:

Quote from: Thad on June 07, 2008, 04:45:07 PM

I don't see [...] Obama [...] sitting back and ignoring a smear campaign the way Kerry did.

Via the Guardian:

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Barack Obama is recruiting senior staff to a new unit which will combat virulent rumour campaigns on the internet that threaten to cost him votes in the presidential election against John McCain.

GOOD.

We no longer live in an era of refusing to dignify a smear campaign with a response. Even the most absurd, raving innuendo can now worm its way into conventional wisdom.

My first encounter with the "Obama is a secret Muslim" chain E-Mail (though I'd heard the phony madrassa story awhile before) was from a cousin of mine who's a reliable Democrat but has a lot of fringe Republicans in her immediate family. I pinned her ears back for it and she protested that she'd gotten it from a "reliable source"; she'd never heard of Snopes so I produced quotes from various mainstream news outlets repudiating the story, plus one from Fox News backing away from it. At that point she dropped the subject but I don't think I changed her mind. Though I suspect she's probably one of the crowd who shifted from "He's a Muslim!" to "The pastor at his church hates America!" without skipping a beat.

I don't know the best way for Obama to counter the rumors, but I am very reassured to know that he's working on it. Hopefully the people he's got on it know what they're doing -- up to this point he seems to have picked up very competent advisors with a good understanding of how to run a modern campaign.

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