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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #160 on: August 28, 2008, 10:08:51 PM »

Maybe the media is doing what they did with the Dem primary: if we pretend this is a close race, people will think it's more exciting and watch the news!

 :humpf: *sniff* Maybe.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #161 on: August 28, 2008, 10:42:55 PM »

Maybe the media is doing what they did with the Dem primary: if we pretend this is a close race, people will think it's more exciting and watch the news!

Your avatar is apt indeed.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #162 on: August 28, 2008, 11:14:16 PM »

Also: God's aim was off with that whole "rain out Obama's speech" thing -- it rained like a MOTHERFUCKER here tonight.

Oh, this is too good: the LA Times speculates that the Republican Convention might have to be delayed because of Gustav.

It's just a pity that the people who should be learning a lesson from this parable have nothing at all resembling a sense of irony.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #163 on: August 28, 2008, 11:51:37 PM »

Okay, one more before bed:

So I was wondering what the Republican talking points would be, following the speech?  Huffington Post has McCain's press release.  Only for some reason it's a series of images, scaled down to illegible size -- they're not thumbnails, they're FULL-SIZED IMAGES scaled down in HTML.  You can do a right-click, view image to see them full size, but they're also not bordered, so it's a pain in the ass to figure out where one ends and the next begins.

I read the first couple besides saying "fuck it", and they're incredibly weak sauce: the first few are subjective quotations; when they DO start quoting stats about Obama voting with his party most of the time, uh, guess what, John?  It doesn't work both ways.  When Obama says you voted with the wildly unpopular President more than 90% of the time, THAT'S BAD.  But when YOU say HE voted with the (supposed) OPPOSITION to the wildly unpopular President more than 90% of the time, well, uh...you get it?  (Also, it says "Democrat Party" repeatedly.  YOU ARE IN THIRD GRADE!)

(Oh, and then on the next page he goes on to explain why it's totally misleading to say someone votes with someone 90% of the time. :scanners:)

McCain's panicking and grasping at straws.  And I can understand why -- there's a distinct possibility he just lost the race.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #164 on: August 29, 2008, 12:29:44 AM »

there's a distinct possibility he just lost the race.

 :humpf: Maybe.  May
 :gasp: SPY!
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 :humpf: Gentlemen.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #165 on: August 29, 2008, 04:59:31 PM »

Van Halen upset at McCain for using their song in his campaign.

Can anyone explain why he hasn't learned to ask permission yet?
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #166 on: August 29, 2008, 05:01:50 PM »

Because he hasn't been sued for it yet, and will simply hop from one 80's sensation to the next.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #167 on: August 30, 2008, 01:30:23 AM »

In before he uses Immigrant Song to introduce Palin.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #168 on: August 30, 2008, 01:15:19 PM »

What happens, legally, if McCain's old age floors him before the formal elections? Would Alaska Clueless become the presidential nominee and they scramble to find a veep? Would they find someone else to fill Old Man McCain's spot? Would Obama basically be uncontested?
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #169 on: August 30, 2008, 02:07:00 PM »

What happens, legally, if McCain's old age floors him before the formal elections? Would Alaska Clueless become the presidential nominee and they scramble to find a veep? Would they find someone else to fill Old Man McCain's spot? Would Obama basically be uncontested?

Depends, stuff like that usually results in a pity victory.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #170 on: August 30, 2008, 05:33:42 PM »

Yes, but what she's asking is, for whom?  If McCain died AFTER being elected, then Palin would become President; that much is obvious.  But if he were to die in the next two months, what's the protocol?  Would Palin become the nominee, despite nobody having voted for her, or would it go to, say, Romney?

I don't know the answer either; it's a party regulation issue, not a legal one, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats and Republicans have different rules.  I don't know if there's any precedent; the closest I can think is Bobby Kennedy's assassination, which happened before the primaries were over.

It's an interesting hypothetical, but a little on the ghoulish side to be discussing, and not something anybody's going to have to worry about in reality.  The odds on McCain dying in the next twenty years are pretty damn high; next ten years a little less likely; next four less likely than that but still enough to cast a spotlight on Palin's qualifications -- but next two months?  Pretty unlikely.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #171 on: August 31, 2008, 01:03:46 PM »

First day of RNC mostly canceled.

This could go either way.  On the one hand, it weakens the convention.  On the other, if the fallout of Gustav is anything less than streets full of drowned bodies and people shitting in the hallways of the Superdome, McCain gets to declare how the Republicans have learned from the mistakes of 2005.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #172 on: August 31, 2008, 01:06:59 PM »

On the plus side, it proves that God thinks Stuart Shephard is an asshole.

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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #173 on: September 01, 2008, 04:32:40 PM »

Today's The USA Today: Obama gets a convention bounce.

Not a big deal, not cause for celebration, just expected.  But if he's still up by this time NEXT week, that's going to be very interesting.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #174 on: September 02, 2008, 02:42:42 AM »

From the desk of John McCain:

t Ron Paul let's be friends

Seeing John McCain campaigning on Second Life would be the funniest damn thing I've ever seen.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #175 on: September 02, 2008, 05:44:23 PM »

INTERLUDE for boring local elections:

I literally forgot the primary was today until about 6 PM.  And I hadn't actually researched the candidates.  Both these things boil down to the fact that it's a boring damn primary and only two races are actually contested (most have only one guy running, or two guys running but you can check both of them).

I sheepishly admit that the research I did before voting was fairly cursory, but I read a few interviews with the candidates and saw who endorsed whom and think I got a pretty good idea from that.

Also, the county website lied to me about where my closest polling place was; I noticed on the way back that there were "VOTE HERE" signs outside a much closer church than the one it directed me to.  Fortunately, that one was still only about a five-minute bike ride, but it's still muggy as shit out right now and even a five-minute bike ride is enough to get me all sticky.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #176 on: September 04, 2008, 09:52:51 PM »

McCain's speech was pretty much a bunch of catchphrases and his story of being a POW.  The catchphrases were empty, and, aside from the war, offshore drilling, and school choice, for the most part he spent his speech pretending to be a Democrat.

His POW story is powerful, and continues to resonate.  But it's increasingly clear that it's all he's got going for him.

If you want my opinion, he got upstaged by his running-mate.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #177 on: September 04, 2008, 10:43:14 PM »

In terms of his latest speech, or in general?
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #178 on: September 04, 2008, 10:45:06 PM »

In terms of pretty much the entire past week.  It's too early to say "in general", but certainly ever since he picked her.
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Re: Election 2008
« Reply #179 on: September 04, 2008, 10:55:14 PM »

Based on how much everybody liked McCain when his campaign was about him, that may be a good idea.
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