Topic: New Doctor Who (Read 59078 times)

Thad · « **Reply #560 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:00:56 AM »

Quote from: Niku on September 05, 2011, 06:14:52 AM

The writing in this one was almost unforgivably sloppy. I'll take the Paper House homage any day when the alternative is the Doctor spending ten minutes talking about how MONSTERS ARE REAL HOLY SHIT THIS IS SOME SERIOUS FUCKING SH oh hey the kid's just an alien okay peace.

Yes, but...Fear Her.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #561 on:** September 05, 2011, 10:47:48 AM »

Yes, but...

Quote from: Thad on September 03, 2011, 09:52:21 PM

The Unquiet Dead, The Idiot's Lantern, and Victory of the Daleks...

we're all pretty terrible episodes. Hell, Idiot's Lantern held the mantel of Worst of the New Doctor Who until Rebel Flesh in this season.

Thad · « **Reply #562 on:** September 05, 2011, 12:20:53 PM »

Nah, I'd say Idiot's Lantern was better than Fear Her, Unquiet Dead, Runaway Bride, Gridlock...and probably most of the Davies season finales.

And I didn't think Rebel Flesh was so bad.

Mothra · « **Reply #563 on:** September 05, 2011, 03:26:58 PM »

I still say Daleks in Manhattan was by far the worst the show's done. The fact that it was a two-parter was just plain brutal.

I kinda liked the Cult of Skaaro too.

Lottel · « **Reply #564 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:29:06 PM »

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[spoiler] "You're turning me into you!" Rory has studied enough and has seen enough to know how "bigger on the inside" works. Since Last Centurion time, he's lived as long as the Doctor. He's not as well-traveled, but he knows 2000 years of being completely alone. And Rory really is about 5 tough decisions/tragedies away from being another Doctor.
I'm not saying they're actually doing that obviously, but he's definitely been groomed for the position at this point.
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You know, Roranicus, Centurion of Time would be a pretty great show. I'd watch it.

Bal · « **Reply #565 on:** September 11, 2011, 03:39:42 AM »

So this episode, The Rory and Amy Show: Guest starring Matt Smith as The Doctor.

Let me stress that I am OK with this.

Misha · « **Reply #566 on:** September 11, 2011, 10:56:52 PM »

Quote from: Lottel on September 10, 2011, 08:29:06 PM

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[spoiler] "You're turning me into you!" Rory has studied enough and has seen enough to know how "bigger on the inside" works. Since Last Centurion time, he's lived as long as the Doctor. He's not as well-traveled, but he knows 2000 years of being completely alone. And Rory really is about 5 tough decisions/tragedies away from being another Doctor.
I'm not saying they're actually doing that obviously, but he's definitely been groomed for the position at this point.
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You know, Roranicus, Centurion of Time would be a pretty great show. I'd watch it.

I actually was really excited for a few minutes[spoiler] when badass amy appeared, Because I was hoping that rory being the centurion would still be a thing. "I waited 36 years for you" vs "I waited 2000 years for you", and then badass amy and centurion rory ride off into the sunset to be badass together [/spoiler]

Royal☭ · « **Reply #567 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:21:34 AM »

That was actually a really good episode, probably one of the best of the season. Solid sci-fi premise, doesn't take place on Earth, and decides to do some interesting visuals and effective (not-quite) monsters to boot. Plus Karen Gillan really gets to show off her acting chops.

Thad · « **Reply #568 on:** September 14, 2011, 09:04:09 PM »

Dispensing with spoiler tags because we're four days past now.

Quote from: Misha on September 11, 2011, 10:56:52 PM

I was hoping that rory being the centurion would still be a thing. "I waited 36 years for you" vs "I waited 2000 years for you"

It was implied, though. I like that they can let backstory be backstory and not have to spell it out in dialogue.

Quote from: Misha on September 11, 2011, 10:56:52 PM

and then badass amy and centurion rory ride off into the sunset to be badass together

I really was hoping they'd give her an out at the end of the episode. Just in case Gillan wants to do a Sarah Jane-style spinoff 35 years down the line.

Anyhow. Wonderful stuff even if there were no real surprises.

And I quite like the preview for next week. And hell, if the central premise of Moff's run as showrunner is Doctor Who as a thing for children that is also terrifying, well, Oranges and Lemons pretty much epitomizes that.

I mean, Ring Around the Rosie is a pretty good example of a horrifying nursery rhyme, but kids can hear it and not know what it's about. "Here comes a chopper to chop off your head" is a lot less ambiguous.

Lottel · « **Reply #569 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:02:54 PM »

That was an... interesting episode. The entire time it felt like it was just one scene away from being a great episode and then it ended.
It wasn't a bad episode, I don't think. A bit forgettable really. Which is a shame [spoiler]due to the Amy/Rory parting at the end. Of course, I'm not entirely sure how long this parting will be. I mean, obviously they were on their way out of the series but I honestly figured it'd take them a bit longer.[/spoiler]

EDIT: Everyone on the internet is all in a fuss about [spoiler]Rory talking about traveling with the Doctor in a past tense. I took it to mean he mentally moved on and that was supported by him immediately running in the house at the end and choosing to live on earth. The internet, however, apparently thinks there's some wibbly wobbly time travel stuff going one. With theories ranging from Rory being the Master to this happening before Impossible Astronaut. (Rory and Amy were living in a house and they hadn't seen the Doctor in a while). All stupid but it just goes to show how much thought people put into this. Take that as you will.[/spoiler]

EDIT 2: EDIT BOOGALOO: Next episode:

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[spoiler]“It’s [set] 200 years after The God Complex – for the Doctor, anyway. All the stuff you saw at the very beginning of The Impossible Astronaut, with him waving to Amy through all time and space, he’s been doing that. [/spoiler]

Thad · « **Reply #570 on:** September 17, 2011, 09:01:13 PM »

I liked it. It riffed on [spoiler]Curse of Fenric[/spoiler] quite a bit in the climax, but I quite like that one, and I also like the contrast: [spoiler]#7 acted like a raging prick in that one to shake Ace's faith in him, while here #11 was, I think, being totally honest.[/spoiler]

(Also did the clown remind anyone else of Colin Baker?)

[spoiler]Pretty sure I read Gillan had renewed her contract. I don't think this is a real goodbye; I think it's just necessary to establish what we already know: the Doctor's going to ramble about the galaxy for 200 years before he comes back. Though if the guy from The Lodger became the new full-time companion I wouldn't complain.[/spoiler]

Themes we're seeing over and over again: prison and Hell. River's in prison, and the people who were after her wanted to send her to Hell. And of course we know she eventually goes to Heaven.

Is the prison itself a kind of hell? Would that explain why they keep letting her out and why she keeps coming back? Perhaps the ultimate punishment for killing the Doctor is to allow her to know and love him.

We've also got fear and duality. We're clearly meant to believe that the Doctor is his own worst fear. (And, presumably, the thing he holds the most faith in. Or would that be the TARDIS?) He confronted himself as the Dream Lord last season, and we've had at least two episodes this season which featured duplicate Doctors. (And one that featured a duplicate Amy, of course.)

Where's it all going? Dunno. But two weeks doesn't seem like much time to tie up the loose ends, and I'm beginning to fear we'll be left with more questions than answers.

Purportedly next season's going to be short -- the better to prepare for a big 50th anniversary event in '13.

Lottel · « **Reply #571 on:** September 17, 2011, 10:09:54 PM »

It is entirely possible [spoiler]that Gillan won't be a main character next season. Be like Rose was. Walk on bits here and there after she left, an echo of a companion. Flashbacks maybe?[/spoiler]
I remember reading somewhere that soon the Doctor will be gaining a room where he can talk to holograms/simulations/whatevers of his past selves for advice. Tennant signed on for it and rumor had it that Eccelston was actually interested in doing that going against his double-dipping dislike. [spoiler]Maybe Gillan will be in that?[/spoiler] Again though, I don't have a source for this and it's been a month or so since I've read it so I have no idea where to find it again much less see if it's true. It's a neat idea, I think. Not sure it's necessary but I could see the Doctor thinking himself the best person in the galaxy to ask for advice.
What I find interesting about these talks is [spoiler]I haven't heard one word about Arthur Darvil renewing HIS contract. Either that means people don't care about him as much as Gillan (which I find silly. As much as the internet froths at cute red heads, everyone seems to dig Rory as a character.) or he's not in the show. Which either means he dies (again) or they leave him on Earth while they travel the galaxy (again).
I suppose it could mean he can keep his mouth shut or I just because I haven't heard anything doesn't mean he didn't say anything but those ideas are far less interesting. [/spoiler]

Thad · « **Reply #572 on:** September 18, 2011, 09:36:55 PM »

Someone on the AV Club comments thread says that you can hear the Cloister Bell when the Doctor opens his door. Cloister Bell often implies paradox, as when the Doctor encounters himself. Or just some emergency that threatens to devour the fabric of spacetime -- we still don't have our answer on who said "Silence will fall" and exploded the TARDIS.

Another point: as I'm sure everybody noticed, the Doctor's door is #11. Obvious reference.

Amy's door is #7. The obvious inference is that [spoiler]it's got a seven-year-old Amy behind it.[/spoiler]

I prefer to think it's something more self-referential: as I noted, the climax was cribbed from a Seventh Doctor serial.

Mongrel · « **Reply #573 on:** September 23, 2011, 01:51:09 PM »

I know this is one of those "cheap internets gags", but I just keep laughing at it.

Bal · « **Reply #574 on:** September 24, 2011, 06:08:41 PM »

So the bulk of the episode was take it or leave it, and then the last ten minutes are crucial and adorable.

Mothra · « **Reply #575 on:** September 24, 2011, 06:39:13 PM »

Yeah, wasn't big on most of The God Complex. Just sort of... unenjoyable, if kind of conceptually interesting.

Did quite like the last ten minutes though.

Bal · « **Reply #576 on:** September 24, 2011, 06:54:59 PM »

I was talking about this week's episode, but I might as well have been talking about both. Though if I had to choose, I like the main plot in The God Complex better.

Thad · « **Reply #577 on:** September 24, 2011, 08:21:34 PM »

Closing Time was simple enough but the dialogue was really top-notch, I thought. And Craig is great; like I said, I'd be thrilled to see him as the regular companion (though they seem to have rather written that possibility out at this point). Climax was cute but fits the fairy-tale theme nicely.

...so did the Doctor closing all the cracks in time cause people to forget all the damn Cybermen that materialized smack-dab in the middle of London 5 years ago, or was that Craig just being a serious doofus?

Once again, it's going to be damn tough to answer all the lingering questions in the remaining one episode. Wonder if it'll have an extra 15 minutes on it or suchlike.

And then nothing new 'til Christmas, and then season 7 doesn't start until next fall. They might put an Easter special or another fundraiser somewhere in the middle there.

Lottel · « **Reply #578 on:** September 24, 2011, 08:33:10 PM »

Well, since it's a new universe, I think they are using that to rewrite the history a bit. They've done it already a bit (or at least hinted they did) and if that's the case, they'll probably come right out and state it in an episode.

And there's that Einstein episode coming before Christmas, right?

Bal · « **Reply #579 on:** September 24, 2011, 09:53:17 PM »

Remember last season when Amy had no idea what a Dalek was despite The Stolen Earth. I think it's an extension of that. Those parts of history seem to have been eaten by the cracks, and it doesn't seem to have been restored. Whether it's the events that were erased, or just the memory of the events is hard to say. She also had no idea about the 100 foot tall Cyberman in Victorian London.

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