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Author Topic: Oh! Bama  (Read 50523 times)

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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #740 on: May 09, 2012, 05:30:45 PM »

Dammit Romo, don't get our hopes up like that!
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #741 on: May 09, 2012, 05:45:24 PM »

We're all OK, Mongrel. We holed up in the Bass Pro.

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A Bass Pro Shops store ranges from 42,000 square feet (3,900 m2) up to 300,000 square feet (28,000 m2)

Thankfully, we can fit our entire state's population in just one store!

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save me from the midwest
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #742 on: May 09, 2012, 06:03:25 PM »

Bass? That's a lie... there's no open water in the Midwest bigger than a few yards. Are you telling me cowboy movies lied to me?!
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #743 on: May 09, 2012, 06:53:37 PM »

Man Mongrel

You really, really need to go to a Bass Pro.

They have ponds, with fish, inside, and you can fish out of them.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #744 on: May 09, 2012, 07:29:21 PM »

Waal whut'll they think urv next.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #745 on: May 10, 2012, 04:17:26 PM »

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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #746 on: May 10, 2012, 04:35:22 PM »

Yeah, Obama himself supports same-sex marriage.  Big deal.

In the same interview, though, he states that he opposes handling the issue at the federal level, instead preferring to let it play out at the state and local level. Which worked out great for the civil rights movement.

So there you go: Obama, still a cockbag while being an okay dude.

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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #747 on: May 10, 2012, 04:39:29 PM »

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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #749 on: May 10, 2012, 06:28:54 PM »

Wait.

Bristol Palin is relevant?

SINCE FUCKING WHEN?
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #750 on: May 10, 2012, 07:13:30 PM »

Since she was considering getting an abortion and was a poster child for why a woman's rights to control her own reproduction are important to everyone.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #751 on: June 14, 2012, 07:55:52 AM »

Gallup poll: 68% of Americans blame Bush for the state of the economy, compared to 52% blaming Obama.

I think the big challenge for the Obama campaign is going to be to hang that first statistic around Romney's neck without reminding everyone about that second statistic.

Because yes Romney is absolutely proposing that we fix the economy by doing the same shit we've been doing for the past dozen years.

But, you know, one-third of that dozen years, Obama's been President.

And you can only push the "obstructionist Republican Congress" point so far before hitting "incompetent Democratic President".

It's been said before but it bears repeating: the obstructionist Republicans are doing their job.  They are succeeding at the exact thing they set out to do.  Obama is not.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #752 on: June 14, 2012, 08:48:56 AM »

As much shit as everybody gave Bush for being a bit on the dull side, he still managed to control congress with an iron fist even when there was a democrat majority and accomplish his basic goals. Maybe this congress is a lot different than what we've seen in the past, but yeah, it is a pretty hard pill to swallow that it's completely out of Obama's hands and there's nothing he can do to control the obstructionist congress after we watched Bush do it. And for that matter, didn't both Reagan and Clinton have to deal with an opposition majority at some point?

At the very least, as the chairman of the democratic party, he could have flexed his muscles during key votes in 2008 and 2009 to keep blue dogs from stonewalling in the house. We had a supermajority and couldn't do anything because democrats were pandering to tea partiers. It's clear to the politically active left that Obama is exactly as inexperienced as his critics spent his last election cycle saying he was. I guess what we have to hope is that it isn't so clear to the swing voters.

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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #753 on: June 14, 2012, 09:32:41 AM »

Obama's only hope from the start was to make himself look not as bad as the other guy.  He really needs to frame the way people are going to see it: a choice between a failure to clean up the mess or a success at making bigger mess.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #754 on: June 14, 2012, 09:45:20 AM »

We had a supermajority

The Democrats never had a supermajority.

As far as I'm concerned Lieberman didn't qualify as a Democrat even when he called himself one; he certainly wasn't one after 2006.

That said, yes, it is upsetting that Bush managed to ram so much crazy shit through with fewer members of his own party in the Senate than Obama has ever had.

and couldn't do anything because democrats were pandering to tea partiers.

That timeline's not really accurate either.  The Tea Party didn't rise to prominence until around the time Brown took Kennedy's seat.

Though I suppose you could argue that the Dems were pandering to the fringe loonies who later coalesced as the Tea Party.

I'd say it was more a matter of pandering to the lobbyists, though.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #755 on: June 14, 2012, 10:09:53 AM »

I was mostly referring to us having '60 theoretical allied votes'. I understand that, in practice, Lieberman and a few others weren't really democrats and hadn't voted dem in a long, long time.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #756 on: June 14, 2012, 10:35:58 AM »

Well, not even that, necessarily; Lieberman liked to point at his heavily-Democratic voting record.

It's the close votes that matter.  And often the cloture votes.

Lieberman technically voted against Alito's confirmation, but he also voted to break a filibuster against it.  The record says that was a Democratic vote, but of course it wasn't.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #757 on: June 14, 2012, 10:38:08 AM »

Also, it should be noted that the Republicans are WAY better at obstructionism than the Democrats.
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« Reply #758 on: June 14, 2012, 11:19:43 AM »

Also, it should be noted that the Republicans are WAY better at obstructionism than the Democrats.

On one side, you have a party that is unwilling to let the entire government crumble just to get what they want, and on the other side, you have a party that is not only okay with it, but actually benefits from government crumbling.  Obama can't veto the NDAA because it's the National Defense Authorization Act, and until an NDAA passes, there is no money with which to pay salaries or benefits for anybody military.

The reason Bush could ram things through a Democratic Congress is that the Democrats would rather the opposition get its way than watch the country burn while they block it.  Republicans have it the other way around.
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Re: Oh! Bama
« Reply #759 on: June 15, 2012, 07:00:04 AM »

Hundreds of thousands of immigrants who came to the United States illegally as children will be able to obtain work permits and be safe from deportation under a new policy announced on Friday by the Obama administration.

The policy, effective immediately, will apply to people who are currently under 30 years old, who arrived in the country before they turned 16 and have lived in the United States for five years. They must also have no criminal record, and have earned a high school diploma, remained in school or served in the military.

Well now.

That is exactly the sort of thing the President should be doing: implementing commonsense, compassionate policy at an executive level because Congress refuses to do it.
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