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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1320 on: June 21, 2011, 08:09:59 PM »

What ever happened to Wally? He was around for two or three issues when Barry came back but disappeared. Hell, in the new series there was a Flash Family dinner and he wasn't there. Nor was he there for the Flash Family Picnic.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1321 on: June 22, 2011, 12:25:43 AM »

Yeah, they've kept multiple Green Lanterns because of the Green Lantern Corps, but Flash is a bad example because as soon as Barry came back Wally fell off the face of the goddamn earth.

At first I thought you were referring to what they did to him with RIP and Final Crisis. I don't think they're really pulling the rug out from under Morrison this time. Grayson becoming Nightwing again is counter to what he was setting up, as well as Bruce working with Damian, but none of the Inc. stuff seems impacted. All the other "Batmen" are there, with their own codenames, and Batwing is even getting his own monthly.

I feel worse for Gail Simone.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1322 on: June 22, 2011, 02:28:22 AM »

So I guess the new status quo will include breaking up Lois and Clark. Hey DC. Fuck you. I am so god damned sick of your fucking stunts every 18 months, no wonder I haven't even looked at one of your books for the last six.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1323 on: June 22, 2011, 06:27:54 AM »

Just read USM #160.

Wow. That was... all of 5 pages. 3 of them leaked. Seriously.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1324 on: June 24, 2011, 11:51:19 AM »

Okay, if you've never heard of Moebius (I've mentioned him before), here a quick rundown:

- French, been drawing since the 60's
- Probably the most significant science-fiction comic artist of the 60's or 70's, with significant production and relevance even today
- He's one of the two founders of the original Heavy Metal (Metal Hurlant)
- He is partially (and in some cases almost entirely) responsible for the look and atmosphere of these films:
# Alien (1979)
# The Time Masters (1982)
# Tron (1982)
# Masters of the Universe (1987)
# Willow (1988)
# The Abyss (1989)
# The Fifth Element (1997)
- He has also had significant indirect influence on the look and feel of stuff like Blade Runner, Star Wars, The original uncompleted Dune adaptation (which in turn influenced the David Lynch version), Neuromancer, etc.

Basically, if it's science fiction, it's cool, and it was made in the last 40 years, he's probably in there somewhere.

His books are really hard to find and are quite expensive (some of the collections are going for well over $100 on Amazon/ebay), but I have just about all of them and the rarity of the print books seems to be mirrored by a rarity of torrents or other online sources.

I'm not here for SWEET BRAGS BRO, but to instead ask if anybody is interested in my sacrificing the spines of some of these books to scan and share them. Because he really is that good. I can't really do it with the long stories, but the short ones are his best work anyway.

Anybody interested?
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1325 on: June 24, 2011, 01:15:12 PM »

If there aren't any scans on the major torrent sites already, I'm sure somebody there will appreciate it. I'm not sure myself, and at any rate I won't be able to take advantage of such a thing for a few weeks.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1326 on: June 24, 2011, 03:54:53 PM »

There are some torrents I think, but they don't have many seeds and a lot of them may be in a language other than English. Basically, I can provide an entry point. Anybody who likes the stuff can of course go looking for proper CBZs or buy the books afterwards.

I just figure it'll take a while to do all the scans, so I want to see if there's actual interest first.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1327 on: June 25, 2011, 07:26:24 AM »

Definitely interested. I've seen his work referenced all over the place, and I've flipped through some issues of Airtight Garage.

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1328 on: June 25, 2011, 05:05:02 PM »

Well, that's er, 1.5 people so far. Buge? Thad? Anybody else?
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1329 on: June 25, 2011, 05:22:58 PM »

...Ubuntu has borked the portrait display I use for reading comics on my laptop, and personally I couldn't imagine destroying the binding on any of my treasured comics.  Sounds like it'd be a neat damn thing but I'm not going to push.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1330 on: June 25, 2011, 05:29:25 PM »

What Thad said. I think I'd rather make the trip to your house and read them, all things being equal.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1331 on: June 25, 2011, 05:44:35 PM »

Well, I think I probably overstated the amount of real destruction involved.

I would be sacrificing my smaller Dark Horse reprints (just as hard to find as the Epic collections, but smaller and not as good quality - easily good enough for scans though), not the original $100+ books. And I wouldn't actually be cutting them up, just fanning them really hard.

Basically, if the consequences for my library are what's worrying you, don't worry about it.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1332 on: June 27, 2011, 09:34:35 AM »

Some guy with manga scans on his laptop was arrested by Canadian Customs for possessing child pornography. Now The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund is coming to his, um, defense.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1333 on: June 28, 2011, 08:24:56 PM »

In a delightful bit of synchronicity, Thwipster is selling the hardcover re-release of Moebius's The Incal today for $27

Note: That link stops working after tomorrow.

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1334 on: June 29, 2011, 09:58:01 AM »

Dark Horse Presents #2 still doesn't quite rise to the level where I'll recommend it to people who don't read comics, but there's a lot of good stuff there.  The Concrete story is just wonderfully told (and unlike Bong Dazo, it appears that Chadwick knows how to research locations before he draws them; I've never been to Haleakala Crater but it looks like it was described to me instead of "generic Hawaii landscape"), and Finder is a pretty little self-contained story despite being a "part 2".  Number 13: Part 1 and Blood: Part 2, by contrast, both feel like they just drop off at the end without a satisfying narrative arc, which seems particularly odd in Blood's case given that Part 1 worked perfectly well on its own.

I also quite like The Wraith, a silent Batman parody by Patrick Alexander that feels like something by Aragones or Jaffee.

But I'm going to pick on Chaykin a bit here.

Chaykin is a great artist and his work here is subpar; I've come to like Photoshop inking less and less over the years.  It doesn't feel as rough as Sanford Green's work later in the book but it's still not up to Chaykin's standards.

The plot's not much better, as it seems half a retread of last month.

But worst of all is the script, which is almost unreadable.  Here's the dialogue from page 1:

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Anita: I'm telling you, Albert, he's out there.
Albert: And I'm telling you--
Anita: Yeah, yeah, I know...
Anita: ...this is what got me pulled off field assignments in the first place.
Albert: And that condescending tone didn't help either, Anita.
Anita: Fine.  None of which gets to the heart of the matter...
Albert: Which is...?
Anita: Which is that there's one bad actor out there...
Anita: ...who's responsible for all these unsolved crimes.
Albert: Your so-called "Perpetrator Zero."
Anita: Your choice of words, not mine.
Albert: Maybe--but you've been flogging this dead horse for two years now...

And it goes on like that for seven more pages.

I don't know if it's Chaykin or his letterer who's responsible for that awful, unreadable mess of misplaced emphasis, but for Christ's sake you'd think that's what editors are for.

Kinda hope it's the letterer's fault and not Chaykin's; I know Chaykin's more experienced as an artist than a writer, but he's been in this business long enough to have picked up the simple rule that you read your dialogue out loud to see if it sounds natural.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1335 on: June 29, 2011, 11:19:44 AM »

Maybe off-panel there's someone who's grabbing and fondling their parts. And the bolds are when they squeeze particularly hard.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1336 on: June 29, 2011, 03:55:05 PM »

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Anita: Which is that there's one bad actor out there...

Not including you.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1337 on: June 29, 2011, 07:47:36 PM »

Yeah, the whole thing reads like it's being performed by William Shatner.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1338 on: June 30, 2011, 04:44:37 AM »

Maybe off-panel there's someone who's grabbing and fondling their parts. And the bolds are when they squeeze particularly hard.

Given that it's Howard Chaykin, this may be the correct interpretation.

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1339 on: July 02, 2011, 09:30:56 AM »

Every single thing I hear about the new status quo planned for DC makes me like it less and less, and I was already not buying their books before they even started this nonsense.
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