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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #860 on: August 09, 2010, 09:58:21 AM »

Yes perfect

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #861 on: August 09, 2010, 10:25:46 AM »

I'm going to assume that question was honest, in which case: Joe Quesada is he Editor-in-Chief of Marvel. Hence, he is the one overseeing this shot.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #862 on: August 09, 2010, 10:30:06 AM »

At least Ultimate Spider-Man isn't ruined, right? Right!?
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #863 on: August 09, 2010, 10:48:29 AM »

I'm going to assume that question was honest, in which case: Joe Quesada is he Editor-in-Chief of Marvel. Hence, he is the one overseeing this shot.

:facepalm:

I didn't know. Holy shit that is both tragic and hilarious.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #864 on: August 09, 2010, 11:19:08 AM »

I was going to reply "Well, he used to be EIC, so... "

I didn't realize he still held that post. Ugh.

Anyway, it's a moot point. Even if he wasn't EIC, it wouldn't be the first time atrociously catastrophic self-insertion writing "writing" was approved at Marvel (or DC).

And Buge is THE BEST.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #865 on: August 09, 2010, 11:24:58 AM »

Who edits the editors?
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #866 on: August 09, 2010, 12:34:41 PM »

At least Ultimate Spider-Man isn't ruined, right? Right!?

Once again, Ultimate proves to be the better of the two.

I mean, what other comic can a big part of it be "My clone that's a chick is falling in love with my man-whore good friend!" and everyone is cool with it?
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #867 on: August 09, 2010, 01:54:27 PM »

I should just never read comic boox, huh?
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #868 on: August 09, 2010, 04:18:29 PM »

Ultimate Spider-man is just such garbage these days.  Once the series restarted, I got to about the fifth series of Bendis's back and forth dialogue before I had a stroke.

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #869 on: August 09, 2010, 05:05:12 PM »

I could never get past the giant eyes.

Ultimate Avengers is also terrible.  My uncle is convinced that Millar is having his untalented nephew ghost it.

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...why did his brain go straight to "untalented nephew"?
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #870 on: August 09, 2010, 05:40:44 PM »

The first book of Ultimate Avengers 2 starts with Millar making fun of the Punisher, and I was down with that.  He also apparently had Hawkeye kill the Red Skull by flying a plane into him.  The series is goofy, and Millar seems to want to write like a cartoonish Garth Ennis these days.


Ultimate Spider-man was good for a little while at the beginning.  Then Bendis had to kill Gwen, and he began literally inserting fight scenes in between issues, then he just began falling back on his Bendis-speak.  He had Stuart Immonen doing art for a little while, which was good (even if the stories were terrible), and the artist on there now is just goofy.

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #871 on: August 09, 2010, 06:05:49 PM »

The Marvel Adventures books are probably the best versions of Spider-Man/Avengers/Hulk/etc Marvel is putting out these days.

This isn't as bad as it sounds, though, as MA:A has given us stories where Ego The Living Planet falls in love with Earth, and the Avengers get turned into MODOKs. So yeah, pretty much amazing.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #872 on: August 09, 2010, 06:20:58 PM »

Also Spider-Man uses the Ultimate Nulifier, in perhaps the greatest page published by Marvel in the last five years.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #873 on: August 09, 2010, 09:10:12 PM »

The first book of Ultimate Avengers 2 starts with Millar making fun of the Punisher, and I was down with that.

I...don't really think he was making fun of him, though.  The whole thing was a love letter to the goofiest, dumbest things about Punisher and Ghost Rider and horrible ethnic stereotypes.

The Marvel Adventures books are probably the best versions of Spider-Man/Avengers/Hulk/etc Marvel is putting out these days.

This isn't as bad as it sounds, though, as MA:A has given us stories where Ego The Living Planet falls in love with Earth, and the Avengers get turned into MODOKs. So yeah, pretty much amazing.

I really should start checking those out.  Isn't Roger Langridge writing Marvel Adventures Thor now?  I like his art better than his writing, but The Muppet Show is straight-up the best all-ages book out right now.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #874 on: August 09, 2010, 09:22:49 PM »

I...don't really think he was making fun of him, though.  The whole thing was a love letter to the goofiest, dumbest things about Punisher and Ghost Rider and horrible ethnic stereotypes.

Millar certainly isn't asking anyone to take the concept of the Punisher or the Ghost Rider seriously, at the least.  He opens the story by having the Punisher going on a killing rampaging, even being so crazy as to joke about killing an innocent limo driver.  He's then taking down in a ridiculous sting, Nick Fury all but calls him an idiot to his face, and then they dress him up in a costume like his Civil War Captain America outfit so he can stand around being useless while War Machine and black Hulk do most of the work.

The secret to enjoying his Ultimate Avengers stuff is to go into not expecting a Punisher book, a Ghost Rider book or even an Avengers or Midnight Sons book.  You have to realize that he's re-writing the A-Team but with psychopaths with superpowers.  And that all hinges on whether you think a skeleton man cutting a plane in half with a flaming motorcycle is absolutely hilarious or not.

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #875 on: August 10, 2010, 03:57:35 AM »

I think /co/ summed up Mark Millar's writing succinctly:

All the villains team up and/or everyone is an asshole.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #876 on: August 10, 2010, 04:16:06 AM »

I thought Stuart Immonen summed it up better on the last cover of NextWave. :whoops:
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #877 on: August 11, 2010, 06:44:14 PM »

Heh. Turns out [spoiler]the cancer killing Mar-Vell is the cancer killing Marvel.[/spoiler]
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #878 on: August 11, 2010, 07:05:44 PM »

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #879 on: August 11, 2010, 07:55:18 PM »

Huh. I thought Cathy had already been retired. Shows how much I know, then.
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