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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1080 on: January 10, 2011, 04:17:14 PM »

So this is kind of crossover thread stuff but, if you order comics from Heavy Ink?  Maybe stop doing that.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1081 on: January 10, 2011, 05:21:23 PM »

Jesus Christ. That's ducking crazy.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1082 on: January 10, 2011, 06:55:17 PM »

So this is kind of crossover thread stuff but, if you order comics from Heavy Ink?  Maybe stop doing that.

Where?
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1083 on: January 10, 2011, 07:19:39 PM »

Online comic retailer.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1084 on: January 10, 2011, 08:54:30 PM »

I can hear the FBI knocking on his door all the way from here!
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1085 on: January 12, 2011, 06:31:27 AM »

New comic book day!

ALL NEW BATMAN THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD #3
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #651 BIG
ATOMIC ROBO DEADLY ART OF SCIENCE #2 (OF 5)
BATGIRL #17
BATMAN AND ROBIN #19
BIRDS OF PREY #8
BLACK PANTHER MAN WITHOUT FEAR #514
BOOSTER GOLD #40
CAPTAIN AMERICA MAN OUT OF TIME #3 (OF 5)
CASANOVA GULA #1 (OF 4)
CHAOS WAR DEAD AVENGERS #3 (OF 3)
CHIP N DALE RESCUE RANGERS #1
DAREDEVIL REBORN #1 (OF 4)
DARK TOWER GUNSLINGER LITTLE SISTERS ELURIA #2 (OF 5)
DAYS MISSING KESTUS #1 (OF 5)
DEADPOOL #31
DOC SAVAGE #10
DOCTOR WHO SPECIAL #27
DR WHO MAGAZINE #429 SPECIAL
DUNGEONS & DRAGONS DARK SUN #1 (OF 5)
FEEDING GROUND #1 (OF 6)
FEVRE DREAM #10 (OF 10)
GREEN LANTERN EMERALD WARRIORS #6 (BRIGHTEST DAY)
HACK SLASH ME WITHOUT YOU (ONE-SHOT)
HALCYON #3
HEAVY METAL MARCH 2011
HEROES FOR HIRE #2
I AM AN AVENGER #5 (OF 5)
INCREDIBLE HULKS #620
INFINITE VACATION #1
JOHN BYRNE NEXT MEN #2
JUSTICE LEAGUE GENERATION LOST #17 (BRIGHTEST DAY)
KANE AND LYNCH #5 (OF 6)
KNIGHT & SQUIRE #4 (OF 6)
LET ME IN CROSSROADS #2 (OF 4)
REBELS #24
RED ROBIN #19
ROBERT JORDAN WHEEL OF TIME EYE O/T WORLD #1.5
SECRET SIX #29
SPAWN #200
SPIKE #4 (OF 8)
STAN LEE STARBORN #2
STAR WARS KNIGHT ERRANT #4 AFLAME PT 4 (OF 5)
SUPERMAN #707
THOR FOR ASGARD #4 (OF 6)
THOR MIGHTY AVENGER #8
THUNDER AGENTS #3
TITANS #31
TRANSFORMERS ONGOING #15
TRANSFORMERS PRIME #2 (OF 4)
UNCLE SCROOGE #399
UNWRITTEN #21
VICTORIAN UNDEAD II HOLMES VS DRACULA #3 (OF 5)
WALKING DEAD WEEKLY #2
WIDOW MAKER #3 (OF 4)
WONDER GIRL #1
X-MEN FOREVER 2 #15


Probably going to get Batman & Robin, Superman, and Knight & Squire.  Otherwise a light week for me at the store.  Also for this is Thor: The Mighty Avengers' last book, so you can see a great comic go down in flames, all because of that abominable kids label.

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1086 on: January 12, 2011, 09:31:34 AM »

Yeah, light week is good because I need to pick up more bags and boards.  Maybe a box too.  Unemployment means time to sort comics!

And yeah, Mighty Avenger has been my favorite Marvel book of the past year; going to miss it.  Looking forward to more Langridge/Samnee stuff; maybe if they stick a label on it saying it's canon it'll sell this time.  They're doing a Cap/Thor crossover for FCBD.

My list is like yours but with Unwritten in place of Superman.  Unwritten really is pretty great!

Also, back to the staffing change: it occurs to me to wonder if this might finally mean TPB's of Priest's Black Panther run.  I've been hoping for them; I won't be buying any for myself as I can see my complete run from here, but I'd buy them as gifts for people.  It really is one of my all-time favorite books.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1087 on: January 12, 2011, 09:36:47 AM »

Batman & Robin, Knight & Squire, and Secret Six for me. I'm trade-waiting on Unwritten.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1088 on: January 12, 2011, 09:53:50 AM »

Quote from: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/captain-america-little-help-110112.html
Captain America: A Little Help depicts a man on the verge of suicide who has a chance meeting with the Marvel Comics hero. The story is written by psychologist and comic book newcomer Dr. Tim Ursiny, and illustrated by Nick Dragotta (recently of Captain America: Forever Allies).

I appreciate the sentiment, but this has way too much potential to be preachy. Besides, I find comics can be more effective when they're NOT targeting a specific problem. That page from All-Star Superman didn't need to be written by a psychologist.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1089 on: January 12, 2011, 03:55:21 PM »

The more canon a book is, the less likely I am to enjoy it. The Mighty Avenger was good BECAUSE it wasn't canon. Comic book canon is always a terrible, bloated mess, and getting away from it almost invariably makes your story better.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1090 on: January 12, 2011, 04:32:43 PM »

You know, I was weary at first but became more and more excited the closer Big Time came. Officially two issues in and I'm digging it.
New costume is great to look at. And it's about time Spider-man got sciencey as a main thing.

But now that I like it, I'm worried about the future. This is too different. What happens when the next guy in charge decides he wants old spidey back? What will happen to the movie?

The obvious answer is to make a new universe to contain the new movie and keep main title spidey and "just here because of the movie" spidey different. But the chances of that happening are pretty low.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1091 on: January 12, 2011, 04:54:14 PM »

The more canon a book is, the less likely I am to enjoy it. The Mighty Avenger was good BECAUSE it wasn't canon. Comic book canon is always a terrible, bloated mess, and getting away from it almost invariably makes your story better.

On the flip side, canon allows for the development of characters, relationships and events which feel like they have weight to them.  A comic where Spider-man reveals his identity doesn't have the same impact if he hasn't had a storied past of not revealing his identity.  And like all things in life, it's best with how it's used.  Adhering to canon at the cost of story is always bad, but Grant Morrison's Batman and All-Star Superman are aided because of canon, not despite it.  Basically it's good when it's used to uplift and carry on the feeling of a larger universe and story.  It becomes a drag in events like, say, "Blackest Night" where the entire point of the story is provide canon reasons for why characters don't have to be so violent and grim all the time.

That said, I'm still convinced that Mighty Avenger was mostly hurt because at my store, it was kept on a rack with Sonic the Hedgehog, all the BOOM! Disney stuff and the Marvel Ages books.  The comic book who pick up singles usually ignore that stand.

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1092 on: January 12, 2011, 05:11:43 PM »

I'm not saying it's impossible to like a canon book, I do it all the time, but most of the best books, even those informed by canon, are removed from it. All-Star Superman is a great example of that. It's completely drawn from canon material, but isn't technically canon itself. The same is true of Planet Hulk, on of my favorite limited series of the past decade. It's heavily informed and influenced by cosmic Marvel and Hulk lore, but remains disconnected, and at it's best, for the majority of the run.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1093 on: January 13, 2011, 11:51:12 AM »

A shared universe is a powerful narrative tool, but it only works if you remember you're telling the story of the character you're dealing with presently, not the story of the universe as a whole.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1094 on: January 13, 2011, 10:25:01 PM »

The more canon a book is, the less likely I am to enjoy it. The Mighty Avenger was good BECAUSE it wasn't canon.

Partially.  But I have no doubt that Langridge and Samnee can produce equally great work that's set in the MU proper.

Keep in mind that what constitutes canon is a flimsy and subjective thing in the first place.  Nextwave is Marvel canon.  So's X-Statix.

And hell, part of why Langridge's Muppet Show is so endearing is his love of pulling out more obscure characters and bits from throughout the franchise's history.  Remember there was a whole arc devoted to Skeeter.  (Of course, the second anyone starts debating whether Muppet Babies is canon I'm out of here.)

Comic book canon is always a terrible, bloated mess, and getting away from it almost invariably makes your story better.

Almost, but guys like Busiek and Morrison do some wonderful damn things with it.  I don't know that bad continuity-whoring is any more prevalent than bad anything-elsing; Spurgeon's Law and all that.

That said, I'm still convinced that Mighty Avenger was mostly hurt because at my store, it was kept on a rack with Sonic the Hedgehog, all the BOOM! Disney stuff and the Marvel Ages books.  The comic book who pick up singles usually ignore that stand.

Indeed; my CBG said Futurama started selling a lot better after he put it in with the indy books instead of the other cartoon adaptations.

Course, at my shop, Mighty Avenger is right in there with the half-dozen other Thor books.  Which probably doesn't do it any favors either.

I think the hell of it is that most of the people who come into the shop every week WANT the canon books, and BUY the event books even if they bitch about how terrible they are.  (I once read an anecdote on a comics site about a father who didn't buy his son a kids' Spidey book because it "didn't count".  Of course, my response to that is to pick up a damn Marvel Masterworks Spider-Man vol 1, which is about as canon, about as kid-friendly, and about as straight-up fucking GOOD as it gets, but that's a tangent.  Also, Marvel Masterworks paperbacks cost fucking $25 now.  For 10 issues.  Of decades-old comics with coloring that doesn't look very good.)

Hem.  Where was I?

Oh yeah.  The audience that Mighty Avenger would have most appealed to isn't the people who go to the specialty store every Wednesday, it's kids who just saw the Thor movie and then see the trade in their local bookstore.  Which is why it's so blindingly goddamned boneheaded that it was canceled (1) before the movie came out and (2) before the TRADE came out.

I could go on for days.  Mighty Avenger's cancellation is pretty much the perfect example of everything the industry is doing wrong.

Your tiny and shrinking audience only buys event books.  So what do you do?  You cancel everything that could possibly appeal to any other audience, of course.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1095 on: January 14, 2011, 03:08:02 AM »

I think the hell of it is that most of the people who come into the shop every week WANT the canon books, and BUY the event books even if they bitch about how terrible they are.

There seriously are people like that in the world?

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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1096 on: January 14, 2011, 04:00:40 AM »

Yes, they're called comic book fans.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1097 on: January 15, 2011, 02:29:12 PM »

There seriously are people like that in the world?

That's what the sales figures say.

The sad, shrinking sales figures.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1098 on: January 15, 2011, 09:34:29 PM »

Bleedingcool: Steve Rude's wife says on Facebook that he's doing a New Gods story in a second volume of Wednesday Comics.
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Re: Funnybooks
« Reply #1099 on: January 16, 2011, 12:08:15 AM »

I am excited for more Wednesday Comics. I ended up with an extra copy of one issue, and it made or the best Christmas wrapping paper ever. Not a trick that I'm likely to repeat given the price, but the broadsheet gimmick has won me over.

I hope that the next run has some people who realize what they can do with all that space.

Oh... Everyone who regularly comments in this thread picked up Cornell's last Batman & Robin. Thoughts?
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