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Lottel · « **Reply #1520 on:** September 26, 2011, 01:53:13 AM »

Wrong! He'll proposition her and she turns him down. He thinks she's racist at first and yells at her but it turns out she's a lesbian with her friend Terra!
But since lesbians aren't real, they all have sex anyway.
And since it involves lesbians AND a black guy, it's super progressive, right?!

Ocksi · « **Reply #1521 on:** September 26, 2011, 01:58:28 AM »

Oh, she's probably good friends with Batwoman and the Question, then.

Lottel · « **Reply #1522 on:** September 26, 2011, 02:12:40 AM »

Yes. Every lesbian knows each other. And has sex with each other all the time.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #1523 on:** September 26, 2011, 04:17:47 AM »

Nah, he'll probably slap her or something, causing him to go WHAT HAVE I DONE and snap out of it.

ALSO: Red Lanterns #1: Not as as bad as Catwoman or Red Hood and the Outlaws, but that's a pretty low bar.

ALSO ALSO: DC is bad at math.

Zaratustra · « **Reply #1524 on:** September 26, 2011, 09:50:20 AM »

Was there anyone left in the face of the earth that thought DC would use the reboot to widen their audience? They didn't do it during Identity Crisis -or- Final Crisis.

DC is not even trying anymore.

Thad · « **Reply #1525 on:** September 26, 2011, 11:33:04 AM »

Just the opposite: the sad thing is that this IS them trying. Full-on media blitz, every issue selling out, my LCBG saying he's never had a month like this in the ten years he's owned the store or the several years prior that he worked there as a clerk.

Basically DC is doing everything right here except making comics that actually appeal to a new audience.

I suppose another way of putting it is that they're marketing it well but not really doing anything different on the creative side. Which is sort of a "well duh" given that it's pretty much the same people running the show as before.

Anyone who's surprised by Lobdell after the past 20 years is, well, an alien with some kind of brain disease that makes them constantly forget things.

Rico · « **Reply #1526 on:** September 26, 2011, 11:35:46 AM »

That's not true. The problem is that they're trying and think they're doing a reboot but comic book-writing and art has become so insular that they're doing a remarkably shitty job of it and don't really know. It's also not a strictly DC problem by any means, but Marvel is a little lucky that they have Matt Fraction as their marquee instead of Grant Morrison.

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Thad · « **Reply #1527 on:** September 26, 2011, 11:40:12 AM »

Quote from: Rico on September 26, 2011, 11:35:46 AM

That's not true. The problem is that they're trying and think they're doing a reboot but comic book-writing and art has become so insular that they're doing a remarkably shitty job of it and don't really know. It's also not a strictly DC problem by any means, but Marvel is a little lucky that they have Brian Bendis as their marquee instead of Geoff Johns.

Action's actually one of the most new-reader-friendly books of the lot, even for people who don't know Superman's Depression-era background. Green Lantern, on the other hand, hasn't skipped a beat.

This is something handed down by WB, organized by DiDio, Johns, and Lee, and with Morrison being allowed to pretty much keep doing whatever he wants.

Rico · « **Reply #1528 on:** September 26, 2011, 11:45:54 AM »

That's fair, but given that DiDio placed Morrison as official revamp guy a few years back and this is a reboot I can't imagine he didn't have input into some of the other books. In any case, it's the same basic point.

Thad · « **Reply #1529 on:** September 26, 2011, 11:55:03 AM »

Maybe. I'm still not entirely sure I get Bendis's appeal. (Haven't read enough Fraction to have an opinion on him; the Hickman I've read is good. Brubaker...I really only read his Authority run, and was largely unimpressed.) The biggest story to come out of Marvel this year is one that could certainly be read as nakedly cynical, but for some reason I've got a good feeling about it even if I haven't picked USM up. Still wish Miles were the Spidey on the new cartoon coming up.

Rico · « **Reply #1530 on:** September 26, 2011, 12:03:34 PM »

Brubaker basically checked out after his main Cap run to focus on his own stuff.

Thad · « **Reply #1531 on:** September 26, 2011, 12:20:23 PM »

Oh right, that ended, didn't it.

Comics Project Part 2 is up and far more upbeat than part 1; nearly everybody likes what they see this week. (Except the guy reading Frankenstein, ironically because it tries too hard to be new-reader-friendly.)

For all my cynicism, I would love to see DC pull this off and bring in new readers who actually stick around. They are putting out some legitimately great books, and I hope the shitty ones don't distract TOO much from that.

Büge · « **Reply #1532 on:** September 26, 2011, 12:22:23 PM »

"Holy Terror" is badly-plotted and hateful, but Frank Miller still knows how to draw.

Zach · « **Reply #1533 on:** September 26, 2011, 02:13:00 PM »

Büge · « **Reply #1534 on:** September 26, 2011, 05:47:20 PM »

Quote from: Thad on September 26, 2011, 11:55:03 AM

I'm still not entirely sure I get Bendis's appeal.

To readers or to editors?

Kashan · « **Reply #1535 on:** September 26, 2011, 06:29:03 PM »

Bendis is frustrating for me. He's written some of my favorite superhero comics period and he's also written a lot of super generic mediocre crap. He's better with solo books than team books, but he's written good and bad books for both. I've actually had weeks where the best and worst comic I got were both from Bendis. One saving grace is he's usually pretty consistent with his quality on any given title, so it's pretty easy to figure out whether something is worth reading from him.

Zaratustra · « **Reply #1536 on:** September 26, 2011, 06:41:28 PM »

Quote from: Thad on September 26, 2011, 12:20:23 PM

Oh right, that ended, didn't it.

Comics Project Part 2 is up and far more upbeat than part 1; nearly everybody likes what they see this week. (Except the guy reading Frankenstein, ironically because it tries too hard to be new-reader-friendly.)

For all my cynicism, I would love to see DC pull this off and bring in new readers who actually stick around. They are putting out some legitimately great books, and I hope the shitty ones don't distract TOO much from that.

So... they're actually doing decent new work on the C-listers that will die in a year while leaving their top brands to languish?

I don't get it. At all.

Also, Grant Morrison is known for two things: For presenting material in a bold and exciting way, and for the same material getting pushed under the carpet as soon as he leaves a brand.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #1537 on:** September 26, 2011, 06:42:28 PM »

Note: Morrison's Action Comics run is already being swept under the rug the same MONTH as it starts because of Perez's Superman and Johns's's's JLA

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #1538 on:** September 26, 2011, 06:56:23 PM »

J'off J'onnzz

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #1539 on:** September 27, 2011, 07:08:58 AM »

Woman shows DCNu Starfire to her 7 year old daughter. Starfire has been, at least up to this point, the girl's favorite hero. It is, quite possibly, the saddest thing.

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW, THAD?

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