Topic: Funnybooks (Read 170077 times)

Büge · « **Reply #1680 on:** December 10, 2011, 08:53:31 PM »

Blacksad.

Mongrel · « **Reply #1681 on:** December 10, 2011, 08:57:54 PM »

Does it count as "meddling" if you just self-immolate in spectacular fashion (LOLDaveSim)?

Quote from: Büge on December 10, 2011, 08:53:31 PM

Blacksad.

There's only three one-off books. That doesn't really count as a fifteen-year continuing series.

Of course there ARE hundreds (If not thousands) of European serials which have been treated in a fairly businesslike way (i.e. that would meet Thad's criteria for meddle-free), but I figured we were just talking about the North American market here.

Büge · « **Reply #1682 on:** December 10, 2011, 09:17:28 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on December 10, 2011, 08:57:54 PM

Does it count as "meddling" if you just self-immolate in spectacular fashion (LOLDaveSim)?

Quote from: Büge on December 10, 2011, 08:53:31 PM
Blacksad.

There's only three one-off books. That doesn't really count as a fifteen-year continuing series.

Oh, I thought he meant books that have appeared in the last fifteen years, not the ones that run for that long. So yeah, the odds of executive meddling go up the longer your series runs. I wonder how many times execs have messed with 2000AD...

In other news, a man dressed like Superman saved a guy who'd been hit by a car.

Brentai · « **Reply #1683 on:** December 10, 2011, 09:21:20 PM »

Even marrying a journalist. Nice.

Thad · « **Reply #1684 on:** December 10, 2011, 10:03:55 PM »

Quote from: Büge on December 10, 2011, 09:17:28 PM

Oh, I thought he meant books that have appeared in the last fifteen years, not the ones that run for that long. So yeah, the odds of executive meddling go up the longer your series runs.

That's my point, yes. Though my L&R example is to point out that creators can change the direction of their own work in not-always-desirable ways too -- it's certainly not Cerebus, and in fact it's still consistently one of the best comics out there, but...still not a fan of Fritz as the main character in Beto's stories. (Though I quite like the ones where she's an actress playing a part instead of appearing as herself!)

Hm -- maybe Hellboy? Granted there was a long run where Mignola wasn't drawing it himself, and I haven't read most of that. (Keep spoilers in mind if you intend to tell me that yes Hellboy was actually subject to meddling.)

I don't think Optic Nerve is published regularly enough to count. And Eightball is no more.

Mongrel · « **Reply #1685 on:** December 10, 2011, 11:12:51 PM »

Hellboy is still fully Mignola's property, in spirit and effective control.

I'd say he's suffered from distraction, dilution, and wandering in the past few years (hell, arguably the last decade), which is always a danger with those series that push and pull between contained, episodic stories, and larger pieces of a single long arc; but overall Hellboy's still doing fine.

He's at least managed to avoid becoming stale, which is one of the other big killers besides meddling.

Zaratustra · « **Reply #1686 on:** December 11, 2011, 12:47:54 PM »

Even if there's no executive meddling, the artist's own aging will change the comic. I mean, Dennis the Menace and Family Circus were edgy at one point.

Thad · « **Reply #1687 on:** December 11, 2011, 04:42:34 PM »

Quote from: Mark Waid

Dick move, Joe. Flat out, a dick move, and you know it. Either your point was to show people how awesome you were, or to show people how things have deteriorated since your absence. There’s no other way to interpret your post. None. Are you really that hard up for approbation and fan love that you can’t rise above that sort of shit? I understand Wacker’s frustration. Maybe he overreacted a bit, in the way good friends DO react when they perceive their friends and employees being attacked by a bitter man with a bottomless ego, but you made the first move, and it was a dick move. And if anyone doubted you were doing it for anything other than informational purposes, adding “Just sayin’” was the snarktacular icing on the cake. No one says “Just sayin’” unless they’re doing exactly the opposite of “Just sayin’
…
Half an hour later, still fuming at JMS’s shitty passive-aggressiveness. I should probably go walk it off. Maybe with a long walk. A long, dull, pointless, boring walk. Across America.
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That I won’t finish.

Norondor · « **Reply #1688 on:** December 11, 2011, 05:06:57 PM »

~*~THE CALLOUT~*~

Mongrel · « **Reply #1689 on:** December 11, 2011, 05:32:49 PM »

This is going to end in a fistfight. At a con. I hope.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #1690 on:** December 11, 2011, 06:37:33 PM »

Oh shit, Mark Waid is totally baller.

Büge · « **Reply #1691 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:49:28 AM »

Mozambique ad campaign uses superheroines to raise awareness for breast exams.

Thad · « **Reply #1692 on:** December 19, 2011, 01:18:55 PM »

Atomic Comics' assets to be auctioned on Tuesday the 3rd.

A 5-minute drive away from my work.

I may need to take an early lunch that day.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #1693 on:** December 19, 2011, 04:49:54 PM »

X-Men With Googly Eyes

Büge · « **Reply #1694 on:** December 19, 2011, 07:52:53 PM »

Quote from: Thad on December 19, 2011, 01:18:55 PM

Atomic Comics' assets to be auctioned on Tuesday the 3rd.

A 5-minute drive away from my work.

I may need to take an early lunch that day.

Hey, see if you can snag me some of those Marvel Legends sets, Thad. :D

Thad · « **Reply #1695 on:** December 23, 2011, 07:19:26 AM »

With the passing of Robinson and Simon, Evanier has been linking to stories about great Golden Age artists who are still with us. He's linked a Times article on Irwin Hasen and a NorthJersey piece on Russ Heath.

There are a lot of unsung Golden Age greats still out there.

Büge · « **Reply #1696 on:** December 24, 2011, 06:44:19 AM »

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/12/23/harley-quinn-chart-infographic/

heh-heh

Pacobird · « **Reply #1697 on:** December 27, 2011, 11:49:43 AM »

As I get older I sometimes like to reread comics from my youth and see if they hold up or if age has brought about any new appreciation. Usually I'm disappointed but over the holiday I reread Fantastic Four vs. the X-men and was pleasantly surprised to find this was the first comic from my childhood I enjoyed more as an adult.

Keep your Alan Moores. Claremont had always been interested in drawing a parallel between the X-men and minorities, but it never really clicked without a recognizable, relatable character cast in the role of Privileged White Man and causing unchecked suffering due a lack of empathy and understanding, not malice. Using Reed Richards, the perpetual Smartest Guy in the Room, never wrong about anything, as this foil is a stroke of genius and justifies Claremont's entire career. Read it again.

Mongrel · « **Reply #1698 on:** December 28, 2011, 09:32:01 PM »

So a little over a year ago, one of my friends gave me this book. I actually put it aside, mistakenly thinking it was mostly a dry history summation (of which I already had one or two). But it's actually almost all full reprints of famous early comics!

The book has this funny editorial bent, really strongly stating that the comics code ruined comics (well, it was published in 1981... and the comics code DID ruin things for a long time), so the writers chose to include nothing after 1954. But it really hits all the major early works, Batman, Superman, The Spirit, Carl Barks Duck Books... it's pretty much like it was written by Thad.

I'll let you guys know how it is.

Envy · « **Reply #1699 on:** December 30, 2011, 02:35:22 AM »

So I'm enjoying the new Death Stroke alot.

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