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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1860 on: October 25, 2011, 07:53:01 AM »

I'm still pronouncing it 'Dark-SEDE' rather than 'Dark-SIDE', so I guess that makes me Lottel's enemy too.  :nyoro~n:

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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1861 on: October 25, 2011, 08:06:36 AM »

You mean it's not pronounced Darksayd?
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1862 on: October 25, 2011, 08:19:57 AM »

We can chalk "Ruby" up to the fact that that's how it was written in the manual for the original game.

We can chalk "Darkseed"/"Darksayd" up to the fact that Jack Kirby had a junior high education and in actual fact there are not very many words in English where "ei" makes an "ai" sound.

And yes, of course language fucking evolves, but there's a pretty big goddamn difference between acknowledging language evolves and saying you're not wrong for deciding words are spelled/pronounced/defined however the fuck you want them to be and you're not wrong if your spelling/pronunciation/definition is different from 100% of all other speakers.

There needs to be, at minimum, some fucking general consensus on how words and symbols are used; otherwise kreaea etdsapo cml;awe e093asodzc q==$@!nnm.

You can make all the bullshit "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean" arguments you want, but at the end of the day the letter P still doesn't make a "buh" sound.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1863 on: October 25, 2011, 08:40:34 AM »

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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1864 on: October 25, 2011, 08:42:32 AM »

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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1865 on: October 25, 2011, 08:57:49 AM »

I guess I can be yelled at for saying "day-muhn" instead of "dee-muhn" when referring specifically to terminal-less background processes but that's a common enough practice that I can feel justified about it.

Anyone who doesn't say poh-tay-toh is objectively wrong and needs to go back to commieland though.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1866 on: October 25, 2011, 08:59:56 AM »

Wait. If it's "dee-muhn" why the "ae" spelling?
Oh goddammit.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1867 on: October 25, 2011, 09:08:51 AM »

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Aha.  I've been looking for that strip.  People were asking what the lyrics to the Harvey Birdman theme were, and I'm pretty confident that "Harvey Attorney" is followed by "Marvy Attorney".

I guess I can be yelled at for saying "day-muhn" instead of "dee-muhn" when referring specifically to terminal-less background processes but that's a common enough practice that I can feel justified about it.

Well, and the mispronunciation is less irritating than defending it by claiming there is no such thing as a mispronunciation.  Again, "ruby" and "Darkseed" are both understandable errors; so is "daymon" -- it's from an acronym that matches an archaic Latin spelling using a letter combination that has been deprecated in modern Romance languages (otherwise I'd be Thaddaeus).
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1868 on: October 25, 2011, 09:19:17 AM »

Aha.  I've been looking for that strip.  People were asking what the lyrics to the Harvey Birdman theme were, and I'm pretty confident that "Harvey Attorney" is followed by "Marvy Attorney".

Yeah, I just did a google image search for "calvin hobbes language marvy".
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1869 on: October 25, 2011, 10:00:33 AM »

We can chalk "Ruby" up to the fact that that's how it was written in the manual for the original game.

We can chalk "Darkseed"/"Darksayd" up to the fact that Jack Kirby had a junior high education and in actual fact there are not very many words in English where "ei" makes an "ai" sound.

And yes, of course language fucking evolves, but there's a pretty big goddamn difference between acknowledging language evolves and saying you're not wrong for deciding words are spelled/pronounced/defined however the fuck you want them to be and you're not wrong if your spelling/pronunciation/definition is different from 100% of all other speakers.

There needs to be, at minimum, some fucking general consensus on how words and symbols are used; otherwise kreaea etdsapo cml;awe e093asodzc q==$@!nnm.

You can make all the bullshit "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean" arguments you want, but at the end of the day the letter P still doesn't make a "buh" sound.

And you're still the guy who had a thread long argument with Sei over the word "Damned".

I of course know that there are rules, but I also know that the difference between "rupee" and "ruby" is miniscule.  But I refer more to the Ra's Al Ghul problem, wherein a unique, written, fictitious word has an open pronunciation. As far as I know, the writers never put down how to pronounce it, like Rowling did with Her My Oh Nee.

The problem is complexed further by Batman: TAS and Batman Begins.

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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1870 on: October 25, 2011, 10:01:47 AM »

Oh yeah, the actual reason I came to this thread.

I hate smokers. Now, on a personal level, I don't care if a person smokes. In their own home, or outdoors where the wind catches everything. But people who bitch about their civil liberties when cities enact smoking bans really grate on me, because these people have little regard for the health and liberties of others.

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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1871 on: October 25, 2011, 10:06:07 AM »

And you're still the guy who had a thread long argument with Sei over the word "Damned".

Yes.  Because the sound the letter "p" makes is equivalent to whether or not "damn" has been used as an adjective for the past four hundred years.

I just devoted an entire post to explaining the difference between acknowledging language evolves and claiming that there are absolutely no rules or consistency IN language and every usage is always correct.

It's the post you just fucking quoted in full and then responded to.

...well, the one you quoted in full and then wrote text underneath, anyway.

Seriously, guys, where'd you get that browser extension?  I'd at least like to see it.

I of course know that there are rules, but I also know that the difference between "rupee" and "ruby" is miniscule.

So's the difference between "minuscule" and "miniscule", but only one of them is the correct spelling.

The biggest difference between those two examples is that a three-year-old knows what sound a P makes.

But I refer more to the Ra's Al Ghul problem, wherein a unique, written, fictitious word has an open pronunciation.

...uh?

Arabic is a real language, dude.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1872 on: October 25, 2011, 10:28:38 AM »

Thank you Thad for saying things better than I did.
I'm glad someone gets it.

It's the attitude. The arrogance.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1873 on: October 25, 2011, 10:48:24 AM »

also



Aha.  I've been looking for that strip.  People were asking what the lyrics to the Harvey Birdman theme were, and I'm pretty confident that "Harvey Attorney" is followed by "Marvy Attorney".

I guess I can be yelled at for saying "day-muhn" instead of "dee-muhn" when referring specifically to terminal-less background processes but that's a common enough practice that I can feel justified about it.

Well, and the mispronunciation is less irritating than defending it by claiming there is no such thing as a mispronunciation.  Again, "ruby" and "Darkseed" are both understandable errors; so is "daymon" -- it's from an acronym that matches an archaic Latin spelling using a letter combination that has been deprecated in modern Romance languages (otherwise I'd be Thaddaeus).

... why the fuck aren't you "Thaddaeus"?
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1874 on: October 25, 2011, 12:54:16 PM »

Cute.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1875 on: October 25, 2011, 12:56:10 PM »

Pet Peeve:

Battlefield 3 was release today. I kind of want to play it yet I have no interest in supporting anything about it.

Tragedy.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1876 on: October 25, 2011, 02:09:40 PM »

i keep seeing this sentiment around. i don't wanna start in on this sheeple shit but seriously, i know we're all good little brainwashed consumers but how hard is it not to throw your money at something you don't support?
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1877 on: October 25, 2011, 06:20:34 PM »

"damn" has been used as an adjective for the past four hundred years.
Got curious when you threw out a specific time frame. (I mean, it was probably hyperbole, but it made me wonder.)

Damn and its derivatives generally were avoided in print from 18c. to c.1930s (the famous line in the film version of "Gone with the Wind" was a breakthrough and required much effort by the studio). The noun is recorded from 1610s; to be not worth a damn is from 1817. The adjective is 1775, short for damned; Damn Yankee, characteristic Southern U.S. term for "Northerner," is attested from 1812.
236 is close enough to 400, I guess.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1878 on: October 25, 2011, 09:00:20 PM »

It's closer to 400 than it is to zero.
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Re: PET PEEVES FUCK
« Reply #1879 on: October 25, 2011, 09:25:40 PM »

Damned could have come into English closer to 1600.
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