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[AČ]

I've been chugging through FF4DS, refusing to use Augments like a stubborn bitch.

Did they crank up the difficulty a bit to make up for Augments? Golbez in the Underground (Right after Cid leaves) wiped the floor with me repeatedly until I got lucky and got Shell/Protect/Haste/Blink all up on Cecil before the actual battle started.

[McDohl]

They did.

It's possible to get petrified to Game Over right outside of Baron at the beginning of the game.  Those bird enemies have a "slow" petrify ability, and there's no way to get Cecil or Kain fast enough to prevent at least one of them from fully petrifying, because I think that gold needles are prohibitively expensive at that point in the game.  So, Game Over right out of the gate.  Save as soon as you get out of Baron Castle, yo.

[Thad]

Actually i was going to mention (but then people commandeered my computer to play spore) that the judges were another high point. I liked seeing them interact and liked the Imperials generally.

Yeah, what a concept; the most annoying element of FFTA turned into, well, an example of the layers-on-layers of royal backstabbing from the original FFT.

Why the fuck didn't you get to play as the judges instead of some nobodies from the provinces? That would have been a lot more fun.

Which goes back to "Why isn't Basch the main character?"

So, Game Over right out of the gate.  Save as soon as you get out of Baron Castle, yo.

I just made a beeline for the Chocobo forest.

(Don't own the game, but got to play a friend's copy for about 20 minutes.)

[LaserBeing]

Did they crank up the difficulty a bit to make up for Augments?

They did crank up the difficulty, but I doubt it was to compensate for Augments because the Augments are fucking useless.

[Rosencrantz]

Did they crank up the difficulty a bit to make up for Augments?

They did crank up the difficulty, but I doubt it was to compensate for Augments because the Augments are fucking useless.

Double Magic and Long Range are pretty useful, but yeah, most of them are laaame.

[Thad]

Pulling up an Augment FAQ now.  I ordinarily try to do shit on my own, but I am given to understand that the Augment system is totally counterintuitive (blah blah strategy guide blah).

I can see how Reach would be useful on Edge given his abysmal defense score.  Or on Cecil to make him an even better tank.

I can see how Phoenix could be useful in places too; there've been plenty of times I've called Ashura and hoped she'd land on "Raise on party".

Bottom line, though, is that the whole thing's a stupid idea and they should've just done like Advance and let you pick your final party.

[McDohl]

Give Phoenix to Kain.  He's pretty much guaranteed to be the last guy standing, because you should be making him jump every opportunity you get, and he never uses that 50 MP by endgame that's in his pocket.  So he uses Phoenix on death, everyone else stands back up, and you wake him up and throw him an Ether.

[Brentai]

Which goes back to "Why isn't Basch the main character?"

Again: last second demographic-based decision from the suits.

The main reason Vaan isn't a developed character is because they didn't even have time to develop him.

Pulling up an Augment FAQ now.  I ordinarily try to do shit on my own, but I am given to understand that the Augment system is totally counterintuitive (blah blah strategy guide blah).

Two words for you.

Materia.

Fusion.

[Norondor]

Again: last second demographic-based decision from the suits.

The main reason Vaan isn't a developed character is because they didn't even have time to develop him.

is this actually canon? i had always half-assumed it to be an excuse.

[Thad]

Makes sense.  The only numbered Final Fantasy in the past 15 years to have a halfway interesting protagonist was the worst seller of the bunch.

[Brentai]

Again: last second demographic-based decision from the suits.

The main reason Vaan isn't a developed character is because they didn't even have time to develop him.

is this actually canon? i had always half-assumed it to be an excuse.

Er, if by "canon" you mean "straight from the developers' mouths", then yes.

Makes sense.  The only numbered Final Fantasy in the past 15 years to have a halfway interesting protagonist was the worst seller of the bunch.

And if you go back past that you realize that there have been a sum total of two.

[Classic]

  Which protagonists are you going to praise?

[Friday]

The protagonists from 6 and 9 were the best, with Cecil getting an honorable mention just because he's not a teenager.

And, yes, I know 6 didn't have a clear protagonist. Good thing all the characters in the running for it were interesting.

[Doom]

Considering all the intense remake, re-release, revamp and Disidia nonsense, I'm renewing hope for a FF8 spinoff staring Seifer.

[McDohl]

The way Fujin and Raijin were designed, you'd think they would've been PCs at some point.

[Doom]

How about the fact that they and Seifer are actually more interesting than the entire player group.

I like Laguna and his retarded cliche buddies more than the coward and mute brigade, really.

[McDohl]

The totally rockin' battle theme may have had something to do with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2vpqd9gKXk
...I used to keep a save file in the second Laguna dream in the Lunatic Pandora for this reason.

[Thad]

I have often said that FF8 would have been dramatically improved simply by removing Squall and making Laguna the main character.

[Brentai]

Replace the one-dimensional emo kid with the one-dimensional bumbling idiot?  I think they tried that.

(Also: 4 and 9.)

[Arc]

The way Fujin and Raijin were designed, you'd think they would've been PCs at some point.

If it means anything to you, they were originally designed for FFVII. Deemed as too similar to the Turks, they were cut.

How about the fact that they and Seifer are actually more interesting than the entire player group.

Zell & Raijin feel about equal, and Quistis at least started off as possibly interesting.

But zee future refused to kchange.